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    Post by Robertneville Thu May 30, 2024 10:50 pm

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    I've got a pretty simple loop by comparison to some of you guys but I don't know if it will work?

    I have it setup in case Brailey has a shocker I can move Cole into the starting side and take Hands score at hooker.

    But if Brailey has a good game and I don't do anything will Brailey come into Hooker and Hands in at half or will Brailey get skipped over because Hands will go to hooker instead?
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    Post by Mulvy Thu May 30, 2024 11:38 pm

    Robertneville wrote:NRL Fantasy Loophole 2024-010

    I've got a pretty simple loop by comparison to some of you guys but I don't know if it will work?

    I have it setup in case Brailey has a shocker I can move Cole into the starting side and take Hands score at hooker.

    But if Brailey has a good game and I don't do anything will Brailey come into Hooker and Hands in at half or will Brailey get skipped over because Hands will go to hooker instead?

    The way I see it, you have to take Hand's score right? You can take it over Coles and play Brailey. That's what I would do. Swap Brailey and Cook, and Hands comes in for Galvin.
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    Post by Cookie Monster Thu May 30, 2024 11:53 pm

    Robertneville wrote:NRL Fantasy Loophole 2024-010

    I've got a pretty simple loop by comparison to some of you guys but I don't know if it will work?

    I have it setup in case Brailey has a shocker I can move Cole into the starting side and take Hands score at hooker.

    But if Brailey has a good game and I don't do anything will Brailey come into Hooker and Hands in at half or will Brailey get skipped over because Hands will go to hooker instead?


    If you don't do anything, the AE system should be smart enough to give you the two highest placed position eligible reserves on your bench as your substitutions; in this case, Hands at HLF and Brailey at HOK
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    If you're going to do a similar loop in future big bye rounds you will probably (like this round) have some convenient black-dots on your bench to make the whole thing a bit less stressful
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    Post by Tookey Sat Jun 01, 2024 5:19 am

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    Have done a last minute loop and Kings score isn't showing. Usually it will once both loopers match has finished. Surely I will get his score???
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    Post by Cookie Monster Sat Jun 01, 2024 12:33 pm

    Tookey wrote:
    Have done a last minute loop and Kings score isn't showing. Usually it will once both loopers match has finished. Surely I will get his score???


    I don't know how it works on the app, but on desktop it usually shows your loop score as counting towards your overall score for a missing bye player (a black-dot) when the match is live. When the match is complete that score then drops out until the next match begins and the whole process repeats itself until the end of the round, where you finally get the score

    Missing players who are not on a bye (so a red-dot rather than a black-dot) don't get substituted until the final match of the round begins. This is what should happen in your case (King in for Hopgood)
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    Post by Tookey Sat Jun 01, 2024 2:32 pm

    Cheers Cookie, need all the points I can get!
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    Post by Jele Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:40 pm

    Milchcow wrote:I don't have conclusive proof, but the limited testing I did suggested that if your bench order was Strange, Iro, Atkinson then Strange would play HLF with Iro CTR. if the order was Strange, Atkinson, Iro then Strange would play CTR with Atkinson HLF

    I am not at all confident in this though.
    Didn't do a lot of testing and results could have been explained by other factors. So I'd be careful about relying on a certain order of susbtitution.

    Cookie Monster wrote:Hi Jele


    The AE's that Milchy described above will almost certainly occur, but in your case it doesn't really matter

    As you have your team set at the moment, you can watch both Iro and Atkinson play and then decide if you want to take both of their scores or only one of their scores

    If you want both you don't have to do anything

    If you want Atkinson : swap Strange into your team for Koula

    If you want Iro : swap Strange into your team for Galvin

    Good luck and Cheers

    With Teddy now out, looks like I'll be testing the AE order. Need Strange to sub into half so Atkinson can sub into WFB.

    Brailey
    Sorensen May Hughes
    Preston KPP
    Weekes Galvin
    Kiraz Koula
    Teddy Drinkwater Armstrong

    Hynes Waddell Iro Wishart
    Atkinson Strange Angus Yeo

    If it goes in order of the lineup/bench or even in order of play, then I might be screwed...
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    Post by Robertneville Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:05 am

    Robertneville wrote:NRL Fantasy Loophole 2024-010

    I've got a pretty simple loop by comparison to some of you guys but I don't know if it will work?

    I have it setup in case Brailey has a shocker I can move Cole into the starting side and take Hands score at hooker.

    But if Brailey has a good game and I don't do anything will Brailey come into Hooker and Hands in at half or will Brailey get skipped over because Hands will go to hooker instead?

    Just confirming this for anyone doing similar setups in the future, I left it as pictured and Hands indeed went to Hooker, Brailey was skipped, and Cole subbed into the Halves, so the system was not smart enough to know what to do with the DPP to get the first 2 emergencies listed into the side.
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    Post by Cookie Monster Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:13 pm

    Robertneville wrote:

    Just confirming this for anyone doing similar setups in the future, I left it as pictured and Hands indeed went to Hooker, Brailey was skipped, and Cole subbed into the Halves, so the system was not smart enough to know what to do with the DPP to get the first 2 emergencies listed into the side.


    I guess I owe you an apology, as I said that you would get Hands and Brailey

    I can't explain why the subs didn't occur as I predicted (and as I've observed in the past), but I did notice a bit of strange behavior during that round. During the last match of the round my total score included my 14th player even though only 13 players scores should count for the round. After the match finished it cut the 14th score from my total


    It may be worthwhile sending them a query about the substitutions (same goes for @BCT05)
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    Post by BCT05 Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:27 pm

    Cookie Monster wrote:


    I guess I owe you an apology, as I said that you would get Hands and Brailey

    I can't explain why the subs didn't occur as I predicted (and as I've observed in the past), but I did notice a bit of strange behavior during that round. During the last match of the round my total score included my 14th player even though only 13 players scores should count for the round. After the match finished it cut the 14th score from my total


    It may be worthwhile sending them a query about the substitutions (same goes for @BCT05)

    Ah hadn't looked at this thread this week. Yeah Robert very similar to my situation.

    I got a reply just before that cleared up nothing - they just stated Weekes was used at Half and not WFB for me and so that left nowhere for Cole to sub into.

    I have asked what logic is used to determine where a DPP bench player will sub in if both of his positions have a red dot.

    Don't expect it to be changed or anything but would be nice to know for future as it can occur more often in these bye rounds.
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    Post by Cookie Monster Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:28 pm

    BCT05 wrote:

    Ah hadn't looked at this thread this week. Yeah Robert very similar to my situation.

    I got a reply just before that cleared up nothing - they just stated Weekes was used at Half and not WFB for me and so that left nowhere for Cole to sub into.

    I have asked what logic is used to determine where a DPP bench player will sub in if both of his positions have a red dot.

    Don't expect it to be changed or anything but would be nice to know for future as it can occur more often in these bye rounds.


    As an extra kick in the guts, you might want to check out Honey Badgers team (Zazu Knights) in the FOG. Weekes was used as a WFB in his team and he got scores from Iro (CTR) and Strange (HLF) to cover all of his red dots

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    Post by BCT05 Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:20 pm

    Cookie Monster wrote:


    As an extra kick in the guts, you might want to check out Honey Badgers team (Zazu Knights) in the FOG. Weekes was used as a WFB in his team and he got scores from Iro (CTR) and Strange (HLF) to cover all of his red dots

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    Lol ah nice, can't find any consistency/logic then between the various examples.
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    Post by Jele Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:48 pm

    Jele wrote:



    With Teddy now out, looks like I'll be testing the AE order. Need Strange to sub into half so Atkinson can sub into WFB.

    Brailey
    Sorensen May Hughes
    Preston KPP
    Weekes Galvin
    Kiraz Koula
    Teddy Drinkwater Armstrong

    Hynes Waddell Iro Wishart
    Atkinson Strange Angus Yeo

    If it goes in order of the lineup/bench or even in order of play, then I might be screwed...

    Luckily, the same thing happened to me as for Zazu. The only thing I can think of is that Teddy got non-playing status before Galvin, so going down the bench Atkinson got picked as WFB before HLF. Not sure what order they would rank bye teams in to explain Robert and BCT05's situation - maybe alphabetical?
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    Post by Robertneville Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:50 pm

    Cookie Monster wrote:


    I guess I owe you an apology, as I said that you would get Hands and Brailey

    I can't explain why the subs didn't occur as I predicted (and as I've observed in the past), but I did notice a bit of strange behavior during that round. During the last match of the round my total score included my 14th player even though only 13 players scores should count for the round. After the match finished it cut the 14th score from my total


    It may be worthwhile sending them a query about the substitutions (same goes for @BCT05)

    You're all good man, no apologies necessary. All choices I make are my own, nobodies else's responsibility.
    I had made the same assumption after all, there's just no predicting with emergencies it seems.
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:18 pm


    Looking at Robertneville's team, he did at least get an AE for every position

    I wonder what would have happened if Cole was a DNP. Would it be smart enough to pick Hands + Brailey in that case? Perhaps having multiple AEs to choose from is what confused the algorithm.
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    Post by Finch Sat Jun 15, 2024 2:49 pm

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    If I leave my team like this, it means I'll get Klese Haas score for Fifita right? Haven't put him into the 13-17 as might trade Dom Young out, not sure yet.

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