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    Camo123 2023 Thoughts

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    Post by Rabbits21 Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:57 pm

    Hey mate I think I would bring Manu in unless you can stomach risking it getting Hosking and risking it another 1-2 weeks with playing two cheapie WFB’s…..

    Well done too you’re braining it. On absolute fire.
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    Post by Camo123 Tue Apr 04, 2023 11:07 am

    Turns out I totally fucked the numbers on the previous page which kinda works out because Hopgood has added his name into possible trades 

    Trade out options: (95k ITB)
    Trindall 392k - definite out 
    Hopgood 730k
    Carty 527k 
    HSS 273k

    Trade in options:
    Hosking 607k
    WFB gun - Kiraz 693k or Manu 672k
    Cheapie (AKP 304k, Sele 298k, KNiko 254k)

    Initial thoughts before TLT were Carty + Trindall to Hosking/Kiraz + AKP + Sele
    Now potentially considering Hopgood + Trindall to same players but free up money for HSS to Teddy in just about 1 trade (currently 37k short with AKP)

    Edit full team as I don’t believe I’ve posted it:

    Robson
    Haas Murray Tapine
    Katoa Cartwright 
    Cleary SJ
    Bird Alamoti 
    Miller Warbrick Sloan 

    Hopgood Preston Loiero Ford
    Katoa Trindall Thompson HSS
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    Post by Camo123 Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:00 am

    Thoughts now are:
    Carty to Hosking 
    Trindall to Nikorima 

    R7: Hopgood to McInnes
    R8: HSS to Teddy (42k short currently so may need 2nd funding trade)
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    Post by mrbrownstone Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:37 am

    Camo123 wrote:Thoughts now are:
    Carty to Hosking 
    Trindall to Nikorima 

    R7: Hopgood to McInnes
    R8: HSS to Teddy (42k short currently so may need 2nd funding trade)

    More or less the same trades as me (trading HSS instead of Trindall who I never owned is the only difference) so I guess I have to say it looks solid! Glad I'm not the only one considering Carty for Hosking. Hopgood to McInness is firmly on the menu for next week too.
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    Post by Snatchpato Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:33 am

    Any interest in Frizell over Hosking? Only about 30k more and is a known quantity. Should be good for a mid 50s average with the occasional boom game with some tries.

    My trade decision this week is Carty > Hosking/Frizell and I'm really not sure which one to go with.
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    Post by Camo123 Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:45 am

    Snatchpato wrote:Any interest in Frizell over Hosking? Only about 30k more and is a known quantity. Should be good for a mid 50s average with the occasional boom game with some tries.

    My trade decision this week is Carty > Hosking/Frizell and I'm really not sure which one to go with.
    @Snatchpato 

    Yeah it’s interesting one, if you asked last week would have said Frizell but feel like Hosking may have done enough to keep spot now 

    Burton is probably my alternative I’m looking at. Knights do have 2 byes coming up shortly (including tough R14)
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    Post by Snatchpato Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:52 am

    Camo123 wrote:
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    Yeah it’s interesting one, if you asked last week would have said Frizell but feel like Hosking may have done enough to keep spot now 

    Burton is probably my alternative I’m looking at. Knights do have 2 byes coming up shortly (including tough R14)
    The byes are probably enough to sway me into the punt. Thinking I'll go Carty > Hosking and if it doesn't pan out and Hosking gets dropped I'll just grab Frizell.
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    Post by Camo123 Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:25 am

    R6: 965 (rank 138)

    Pros: Captain Cleary, Bird and Frizell repaying the faith
    Cons: WFB roulette died a quick death with Warbrick 12 and Sloan 8 while all guns except Turbo went big. EMG not ideal currently

    Trade out targets: Hopgood, Sloan (peaked), HSS, Warbrick
    Trade in targets: Teddy, Walsh, cheapie, McInnes, BSmith
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    Post by Shady2K Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:26 am

    You're a much higher rank than I am so you'd know better, but what's your expectation of McInnes?

    Has a big BE so would probably take 2 weeks before he actually makes money, then Finucane is back the week after and his assumed minutes increased then goes back down? Could be two trades for not much benefit

    In saying that, he is on the watchlist, but not this week for me at least until we see how the minutes are split around. Sharks also have a 4 forward bench
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    Post by Camo123 Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:31 am

    Shady2K wrote:You're a much higher rank than I am so you'd know better, but what's your expectation of McInnes?

    Has a big BE so would probably take 2 weeks before he actually makes money, then Finucane is back the week after and his assumed minutes increased then goes back down? Could be two trades for not much benefit

    In saying that, he is on the watchlist, but not this week for me at least until we see how the minutes are split around. Sharks also have a 4 forward bench

    Yeah he was probably more of a trade in for me before Carty Party continued rolling on as a straight swap

    Currently the cheapie I pick will be my 17th man (and can afford up to 512k with HSS out). Considered Warbrick out instead of HSS however need to save money for Tapine back in for Loiero
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    Post by Camo123 Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:00 am

    Team before trades (361k ITB)

    Robson
    Haas Murray Ford
    Frizell Katoa
    Cleary SJ
    Bird Alamoti
    Miller Warbrick Sloan

    Loiero Hopgood Carty Preston
    Katoa Nikorima Thompson HSS

    2-3 week plan

    R7 trade outs
    Bank 361k
    HSS 273k
    Sloan 404k
    Hopgood 717k

    R7 trade ins
    Teddy 616k
    Walsh 628k/CNK 464k
    Couchman 315k/Hunt 325k/BSmith 467k

    R9 trade outs
    Warbrick 375k (30 over next 2)
    Loiero 547k (45 over next 2)

    Tapine 759k
    Cheapie X

    Looking at this I may not be able to do Walsh and have a good 17th man while also getting Tapine back without ditching Carty, is ditching Carty in a couple of weeks worth Walsh over CNK

    Basically comes down to this week - Couchman/Royce Hunt + Walsh vs CNK + BSmith. Both players are in 17 (IKatoa other option in 1st option)


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    Post by Shady2K Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:05 am

    If Carty keeps pumping out 45 to 50s then he's the least of concerns imo

    Don't forget Murray will probably be a trade out for R13, so he could a Tapine ticket. Haas has two byes on Origin rounds, so he's probably a season hold

    I like Couchman as the cheapie, he's who I have pencilled in atm
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    Post by Camo123 Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:05 am

    Shady2K wrote:If Carty keeps pumping out 45 to 50s then he's the least of concerns imo

    Don't forget Murray will probably be a trade out for R13, so he could a Tapine ticket. Haas has two byes on Origin rounds, so he's probably a season hold

    I like Couchman as the cheapie, he's who I have pencilled in atm

    Murray to Tohu in R13 is highly likely for me
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    Post by Shady2K Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:08 am

    Camo123 wrote:

    Murray to Tohu in R13 is highly likely for me

    Yeah Tohu/Matto/Tapine the options there

    Ford and Couchman also play R13 so they can slot there too
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    Post by Krump Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:51 am

    I’m loath to comment being a cheese owner but I really do think his scores will improve and CNK is a bargain
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    Post by GreenSchist Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:16 pm

    Not much to fault with your planning. Cheese does give you coverage for Rd 15 and no Turpin is promising, although I’m not sold on him as a buy. His price point is just annoying. Would rather go cheaper or gun.
    Hold Haas. Trade Murray to Tohu Rd 13 - Great minds think alike Wink
    I probably prefer Hunt over McInnes but that’s not based on much, more just similar roles and going with the cheaper option.
    Nothing wrong with CNK, I looked strongly at him for Origin coverage.
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    Post by Camo123 Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:50 am

    R7: 838 (rank 56)

    Pros: Learning how to loop using 2 playing CTR gained me 12 points, finally got on the Walsh bandwagon
    Cons: Robson awful game, potentially could have waited on Teddy

    Trade out options: Carty, Katoa, Warbrick (last 2 likely holding until next week)
    Trade in options: Moses, TPJ, McInnes
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    Post by Camo123 Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:24 am

    Bit torn on trades (44k ITB)

    Option 1:
    R8: Carty to TPJ
    R9: Warbrick, Katoa to Moses/Dunster or Brown/Feldt (WFB bye cover) - may be able to afford Loiero to Manu depending on prices but ideally keep Loiero until R13 and miss Manu until R14

    Option 2:
    R8: Carty + Alamoti to Manu + Host
    R9: Katoa, Warbrick, Loiero + Moses/Dunster/604k or Brown/Feldt/621k

    Current team before trades (25 trades, 44k)
    Robson
    Haas Murray Ford
    Katoa Frizell
    Cleary SJ
    Bird Alamoti
    Teddy Miller Walsh

    BSmith Preston Loiero Carty
    Katoa Warbrick Nikorima Thompson
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    Post by StuDogg101 Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:19 am

    Camo123 wrote:Bit torn on trades (44k ITB)

    Option 1:
    R8: Carty to TPJ
    R9: Warbrick, Katoa to Moses/Dunster or Brown/Feldt (WFB bye cover) - may be able to afford Loiero to Manu depending on prices but ideally keep Loiero until R13 and miss Manu until R14

    Option 2:
    R8: Carty + Alamoti to Manu + Host
    R9: Katoa, Warbrick, Loiero + Moses/Dunster/604k or Brown/Feldt/621k

    Current team before trades (25 trades, 44k)
    Robson
    Haas Murray Ford
    Katoa Frizell
    Cleary SJ
    Bird Alamoti
    Teddy Miller Walsh

    BSmith Preston Loiero Carty
    Katoa Warbrick Nikorima Thompson

    I'd personally go all out and pick option 2. I see the Manu and Host combo likely exceeding those they're replacing by a comfortable amount. Unless you have some affinity towards TPJ I don't see him screaming 'must buy', whereas if Manu pops off (as everyone is expecting I guess) R14 might be too late.

    The other side of the coin is if Carty is named to start. Would you just hold trades? If Carty is the only one you actually want to get rid of in a hurry then I can see why option 1 would be a go.  Clear as mud
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    Post by mrbrownstone Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:23 am

    I like option 1 personally. If you could just do Carty to Manu I'd say just do that, but I'm not convinced Alamoti to Host is worth the extra trade (been considering the same).

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