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    Post by Revraiser Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:18 pm

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:OK guys, here's an attempt to resurrect this thread and actually post something with content.

    The All Blacks continue to be way over-valued. In meaningful tests this year the ABs have covered the spread only once out of 6 games. I think the ABs are no-where as good as the bookies are pricing them at these days.

    This dates back to the Lions series where they only won 1 out r 3 games and I think was typified 3 weeks ago OZ probably should have beaten them and would have paid $10. Last week the spread was ~30 and while they won by 17 if Argentina had more with in their own abilities (and Im talking about when the ABs were down to 14 players) I reckon Argentina could have at least pushed the ABs to the last 5 min if not actually won the whole thing.

    So here's why the ABs are struggling so much. 1) they are still being priced as the team that was so dominant over the last 8 years, but they aren't the same team. They are without McCaw, Carter, Nonu, & C Smith to name a few. 2) they have key injury problems of their own, Owen Franks and now Moody are both out (these guys, in particular Franks play a massive role in the ABs), they are also missing Ben Smith. 3) The replacements for said players don't fill the gaps left by them. In particular Sam Cane/Ardie Savea are far from McCaw. B Barrett is IMO still not that great as a starting 10 at international level. Damian MacKenzie, while he is awesome at Super Rugby level is getting completely shown up at test level. Dane Coles is still a mile away from his best post a very long injury lay-off.

    Take SA plus the points, tease it up to the low 20s and you should be pretty safe!

    Its hard to do, pull the trigger. If I get on then the AB'S will smahs them im certain.
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:30 pm

    Yeah I'm not betting this one. Maybe the away games coming up though.
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:49 am

    Wow - 57-0 means I have to eat my words a little on that one.

    That being said, given I didn't bet, and given the way the game played it almost certainly works in the favour of those that believe the ABs are not playing their best currently and are likely overvalued by the bookies.

    Last night SA basically lost that game alone on their line out. They played pretty poorly and for the ABs everything just stuck in that last 30 min of the first half. My belief is that there will be value betting against the spread in the ABs two final away games. This result will boost the ABs betting profile again but Im not convinced its justified yet. Wait and see what the lines are in their last two games to see if there is value.

    DISC: I've never bet against the ABs and might find it hard to do so, but if the value is there I will Smile
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:47 am

    FYI - 9 changes to the Canterbury team to play Wellington. Points start has come into -7.5 from 12.5.

    It does put a bit of a question mark on this one as 3 of the changes are in the key positions of 8, 9, and 10.

    Luke Whitelock was always gonna be out due to injury but they have rested Drummond and Mounga (both go to the bench).

    I still like this bet as a few of the 10 changes are actually improvements on last games team, but ten changes is a lot for a team to manage in just a few days since the last game so I am a bit unsure of this one now.

    I'll take the bet still but for a smaller wager.

    Canterbury -7.5 the play
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    Post by Moose Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:59 pm

    Honeysett wrote:Swans to win this weekend at whatever price you can get. They're shoe ins.
    Honeysett wrote:Man the Swans played like spastics. I'm sorry if anyone got on them. Just know that I'm hurting as well.

    All good cunt.

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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:11 pm

    Half time full time: well/cant @ $6 good value considering the bench cant has! Small wager for me
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    Post by Moose Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:06 pm

    Fuck that. Just lost 1.5g. GGG won that IMO.

    Fucking bullshit.
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:46 pm

    Disappointing! Canterbury getting blow away!
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    Post by Revraiser Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:11 pm

    Jeepers ! Canterbury and GGG !

    Good thing we have the Nfl to muster up some coins !
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    Post by Revraiser Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:43 am

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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:19 pm

    Auckland tonight lads. They've been rubbish this year but their team this week on paper is far better than otago. I even like the high odds on them winning by margins up to 18+ at $8
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    Post by Guest Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:22 pm

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:Auckland tonight lads. They've been rubbish this year but their team this week on paper is far better than otago. I even like the high odds on them winning by margins up to 18+ at $8

    Why not, I'm on cheers mate
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    Post by Welshy Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:45 pm

    Typical i didn't re-place my acca when all 4 remaining teams all came in....would of been a swift £100 odd

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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:48 pm

    Live bet, Auck 10 down. Get on then again- double down
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:05 pm

    Wow, this is painful to watch. Auck are making a ton of basic errors. They could easily be up by 20 but instead down by 10
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:39 pm

    Sorry guys. This is one of the most pathetic attempts at playing rugby I've seen! Attitude of Auckland is embarrassing. Being completely outclassed! One of the worst bets I've made this year (in hindsight) I got sold by the team on paper and forgot they've been playing like a pack of chumps all year!
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    Post by Guest Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:50 pm

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:Sorry guys. This is one of the most pathetic attempts at playing rugby I've seen!  Attitude of Auckland is embarrassing. Being completely outclassed! One of the worst bets I've made this year (in hindsight) I got sold by the team on paper and forgot they've been playing like a pack of chumps all year!

    Not you're fault mate. we all take the risk ourselves. No need to apologise
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    Post by Welshy Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:52 pm

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:Sorry guys. This is one of the most pathetic attempts at playing rugby I've seen!  Attitude of Auckland is embarrassing. Being completely outclassed! One of the worst bets I've made this year (in hindsight) I got sold by the team on paper and forgot they've been playing like a pack of chumps all year!

    you put it out there and backed yourself, nothing wrong with that
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    Post by Revraiser Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:16 pm

    Welshy wrote:Typical i didn't re-place my acca when all 4 remaining teams all came in....would of been a swift £100 odd

    This weeks NFL 5-fold

    49ers +2.5
    Dolphins -6
    Broncos -3
    Ravens -3.5
    Pat 1st half/Pats 2nd half

    £5 for £88.97 return

    Hard luck mate.

    You really keen on the 49er's tomoz ?

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