NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 31 - So many trade out options, but no trade in ones

Could go Hopgood, Uto and Alamoti to Walsh, Bird and Couchman, makes my back 5 look pretty solid:

Grant
Haas Murray Ford
Katoa Hosking
Cleary Boyd
Bird Nully
Miller Teddy Walsh

Preston Carty Loiero Couchman
IKatoa Warbrick ITT AKP


I think I could do Crossland over Couchman but that leaves me without any mid cover

Looking into Couchman a little deeper, one of the concerns is Lawrie's minutes being lower on the weekend. Could we not argue that the first 4 games of the season were outliers for him? He seems to be a 45-50 minute player based off last season. Maybe JDB takes his minutes and couchman still get's his 40 odd?

I don't know if this is relevant, but Couchman is a big lad. I've watched him on tv and in person last week, and he's much bigger in person. Could be one who just works his way into the side on form as well. I think he's worth a punt*.

*I also thought Trent Peoples was worth a punt

Snatchpato wrote:I don't know if this is relevant, but Couchman is a big lad. I've watched him on tv and in person last week, and he's much bigger in person. Could be one who just works his way into the side on form as well. I think he's worth a punt*.

*I also thought Trent Peoples was worth a punt

The Couch is at least sitting in the top 30

Didn’t realise he was only 19. Exciting talent. No idea what it means for fantasy

Just noticed Angus Crichton, Nathan Brown and Dylan Napa have been named in the Roosters NSW Cup side this week. Didn't even realise Napa was back.

Welsh Mafia wrote:Looking into Couchman a little deeper, one of the concerns is Lawrie's minutes being lower on the weekend. Could we not argue that the first 4 games of the season were outliers for him? He seems to be a 45-50 minute player based off last season. Maybe JDB takes his minutes and couchman still get's his 40 odd?

I think 40mins is plausible.

The next question though is will he average at least 35 in 40mins, would be a pretty good scoring rate. I know he scored well last week but he also had 25pts in 40min before that.

Thinking of just going Walsh + BSmith and figuring out how to get Tapine in later on (could downgrade Murray to Tohu earlier than R13 or sell EKatoa/Carty in R9)

Leaves team as (45k ITB)

Robson
Haas Murray Ford
Katoa Frizell
Cleary SJ
Bird Alamoti
Teddy Walsh Miller

BSmith Carty Loiero Preston
Katoa Thompson Warbrick Nikorima

Yet again out of trades wrote:I think the most common problem with teams this year is when and how to get Smith shields out especially when he is a handy loop option

Every year I find there is one cheapie hanger-on in my team, that seems to stay around for most of the season, I think HSS is that player

Camo123 wrote:Thinking of just going Walsh + BSmith and figuring out how to get Tapine in later on (could downgrade Murray to Tohu earlier than R13 or sell EKatoa/Carty in R9)

Leaves team as (45k ITB)

Robson
Haas Murray Ford
Katoa Frizell
Cleary SJ
Bird Alamoti
Teddy Walsh Miller

BSmith Carty Loiero Preston
Katoa Thompson Warbrick Nikorima

I like the moves and team looks good, it does make getting Tapine back a bit tricky. But still better than bringing in a cow that you're not really sure of just to leave some bank for it.

A lot can change in two weeks I guess so another obvious path to Tapine may open up as well.

rhinoceroo wrote:Just noticed Angus Crichton, Nathan Brown and Dylan Napa have been named in the Roosters NSW Cup side this week. Didn't even realise Napa was back.

Sitili named in NSW Cup again as well, only played the first 40 mins last week.

Snatchpato wrote:I don't know if this is relevant, but Couchman is a big lad. I've watched him on tv and in person last week, and he's much bigger in person. Could be one who just works his way into the side on form as well. I think he's worth a punt*.

*I also thought Trent Peoples was worth a punt

Its 2023 and I've finally become addicted to trading, so I will probably bring him to get my fix.

How long can BMM continue to start ? I haven't watched him closely but he really doesn't seem to offer anything.

robelgordo wrote:

The Couch is at least sitting in the top 30

Didn’t realise he was only 19. Exciting talent. No idea what it means for fantasy

He passes the eye-test and is cheap, looks like a better option than some of the bench fodder in my team so I for one am happy to take the punt. The DPP is handy, getting emg MID cover after trading Hopgood out for Hynes. Plays the first bye as well.

Chewie wrote:

He passes the eye-test and is cheap, looks like a better option than some of the bench fodder in my  team so I for one am happy to take the punt. The DPP is handy, getting emg MID cover after trading Hopgood out for Hynes. Plays the first bye as well.

If I get Couch then I can’t afford Bird, need to bring in maybe McInnes or Lemuelu

If I get Sele/Luke then I can get Bird. Thoughts mate?

Welshy wrote:

If Matto maintains current role I'd bet he will be there at the 60 average

Warning with Matterson - he could well end up playing less minutes going forward... as he did last year in the MID role....

I suspect that with Paulo coming back in this will be the case... It is making me rethink my decision to trade out Hopgood. Check out Round 19 - 25 last year

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

Warning with Matterson - he could well end up playing less minutes going forward... as he did last year in the MID role....

I suspect that with Paulo coming back in this will be the case... It is making me rethink my decision to trade out Hopgood. Check out Round 19 - 25 last year

Yeah I am planning to hold Hopgood, should get huge scores in each of the origin bye rounds, with RCG, Paulo, likely Matterson out. Probably back to 80 minutes for 70 points in each of those rounds, when other teams are struggling for quality players.

mattnz wrote:

Yeah I am planning to hold Hopgood, should get huge scores in each of the origin bye rounds, with RCG, Paulo, likely Matterson out. Probably back to 80 minutes for 70 points in each of those rounds, when other teams are struggling for quality players.

Yep, there will be a lot of people buying Hopgood back in R13
for 600k.

rhinoceroo wrote:

Yep, there will be a lot of people buying Hopgood back in R13
for 600k.

Ha yeah that's what I was going to say, it is possible to just buy him back come rd13. Probably for more like $560k-$570k too

Holding a $717k player that is probably going to average 40 for the next 5 rounds and drop $150k seems a sub-optimal play

rhinoceroo wrote:

Yep, there will be a lot of people buying Hopgood back in R13
for 600k.

If he averages 40 (39 score last week), he'll be a fair bit cheaper than 600k by round 13.
Even if he is $600k, that means he's averaging mid 40's and losing >$100k in cash.  For $717k, should be able to get much better returns than that in the meantime.

EDIT: What BCT05 said

mattnz wrote:

Yeah I am planning to hold Hopgood, should get huge scores in each of the origin bye rounds, with RCG, Paulo, likely Matterson out. Probably back to 80 minutes for 70 points in each of those rounds, when other teams are struggling for quality players.

That seems pretty silly, there’s guys around Hopgoods price range that should knock out consistent 50-60s, whatever ground you gained having Hopgood for the bye rounds would at best be recovering the ground you lost holding him while everyone else cashed him in for a gun.

BMM is a putrid fantasy asset....worth blowing a trade to get his sorry arse off my bench? Probs for Sele/Couchy