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    NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 31 - So many trade out options, but no trade in ones

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    Post by mattnz Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:52 am

    BCT05 wrote:

    Ah that sucks.

    Just saw these comments from O'Brien. Makes it hard to go for either Mann or Crossland

    "Having Tyson Gamble come back will allow Phoenix and Kurt to rotate through that nine spot. It'll take two of them to cover Brails in the middle," O'Brien added.

    If Crossland is named at 9 I think I will still seriously look at him. Tackle bot with a kicking game, will get that really handy HOK/HLF dual, who plays 13 and 16, and they always find a way to play Mann in some other position on the field as soon as there is an injury.
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    Post by Aardvark Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:56 am

    BCT05 wrote:

    As someone that needs both a hooker and mid cover, bringing Cheese back is very much on the menu given it feels like there's very limited options in both of those positions right now.

    Pretty disappointing scoring this round but the minutes have been there two rounds in a row, must be getting back to fitness now, and priced at like 35... there's gotta be value there, right?

    Brought Cheese back in for Sutton this week and tbh I gave myself an uppercut after the game last week given my original plan was to go with Sele and bank some cash. I think the DPP, straight swap for Sutton and some vague idea about him being an ideal 18th man were my inputs into the decision making process.

    As @Milch said, he is a dude who scores 30-40 and might go bigger every now and then. The 'ideal 18th man' thing is a also bit of a fallacy given the new bye schedule.

    Your 18th man now has to be capable of including in your 17 each week because the fact is that you will be including him in your 17 each week.

    I got out of jail this week because my overperforming WFB lineup (Miller, CNK & Walsh) scored better than the average WFB lineup and compensated for one of my bech forwards scoring 30 but that's not a sustainable plan.

    EDIT : I'm going to hold and put him in a loop when possible


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    Post by easytiger Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:56 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    I think that in Fantasy terms, Brandon Smith is a mid 30s guy that is capable of going large.

    Some people get blinded by the fact that he once went large multiple weeks in a row (including me in round 1), but I don't think that is very repeatable scoring.

    He's at that awkward price where he is too expensive to be a cashout, and will often score too low to be comfortably played in your 17.
    Until its too late for me to bring him in, then he'll go on a run of tries and big scores

    Still, he has a career average of 51 when playing Hooker for over 40minute games (which you'd think he is).

    Breaking that down further to remove 2021 where, like many others, he scored more tries, gives a 46.2 average from 13 games (1 try in that), and a minute average of 63.3 - which coincidentally is his minute average across the non-injury affected rounds of 1, 5, 6.

    Priced at about 36, so probably some value there, but far from essential and at a price-point where you'd have to be happy to have him put up some 30's for your team and hope to catch the occasional 50+ score.
    Could be handy for R16 all going well (which looks like it might be the most difficult bye round)
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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:57 am

    mattnz wrote:

    If Crossland is named at 9 I think I will still seriously look at him. Tackle bot with a kicking game, will get that really handy HOK/HLF dual, who plays 13 and 16, and they always find a way to play Mann in some other position on the field as soon as there is an injury.

    He doesn't have dual at the moment, and it might be R12 before he gets it if those decisions have already been made.
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    Post by mattnz Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:59 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    He doesn't have dual at the moment, and it might be R12 before he gets it if those decisions have already been made.

    I only need it by round 13. Then can run him as R13 HOK, then play both him and Mahoney in R16.
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    Post by GreenSchist Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:03 am

    mattnz wrote:

    If Crossland is named at 9 I think I will still seriously look at him. Tackle bot with a kicking game, will get that really handy HOK/HLF dual, who plays 13 and 16, and they always find a way to play Mann in some other position on the field as soon as there is an injury.

    Could be a great shout if he does indeed get dual position.
    Plays Rd 15 which fills a Robson sized hole for me
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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:04 am

    Is the Android app screwed for anyone else?
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    Post by my tv broke Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:06 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:Is the Android app screwed for anyone else?

    yeah, its saying there are about 7000 people ranked higher than me, must be an error.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:08 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    yeah, its saying there are about 7000 people ranked higher than me, must be an error.

    Is it you trying to lock those 7000 out one by one on a loading screen?
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:14 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    Tanah Boyd showing as scoring 40 in the nrl.com match centre, but only 35 in Fantasy (with no try save)

    What score do we think he'll get when lockout ends?

    Will we get another one of these
    5b. Stats Issues or System-wide Corrections post lock-out lift
    - R1: Charnze Nicol-Klokstad missed try save. No corrective action taken.

    I'm half expecting them to update the Thursday night game, but forgot to update the Broncos-Raiders and Boyd scores. Then relock to fix the Sat night game error and still miss Boyd

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    Post by Chewie Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:14 am

    Camo123 wrote:

    Grant only misses 1 extra game in R16 for Origin as byes are in R13 and R19, probably a hold over Origin

    If you include the round 9 bye Grant misses 4 games, Robson only 2 games, plus Robson plays 2 major bye rounds... at least that's how I see it Wink
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:16 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:
    Next question: Robson, or JMK for 100k less.

    Was asking myself this question last night. With the crack hooker pairing of Kenny and Boyd, I'm going to need one.

    Robson is keeping his price stubbornly high though. As is Bird.
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    Post by BCT05 Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:17 am

    easytiger wrote:

    Still, he has a career average of 51 when playing Hooker for over 40minute games (which you'd think he is).

    Breaking that down further to remove 2021 where, like many others, he scored more tries, gives a 46.2 average from 13 games (1 try in that), and a minute average of 63.3 - which coincidentally is his minute average across the non-injury affected rounds of 1, 5, 6.

    Priced at about 36, so probably some value there, but far from essential and at a price-point where you'd have to be happy to have him put up some 30's for your team and hope to catch the occasional 50+ score.
    Could be handy for R16 all going well (which looks like it might be the most difficult bye round)

    Yeah my hope would be that he is going to be more like a 40 guy with the occasional 55-65 score, that over the course of the season should have him around a 45. There wouldn't be many starting hookers playing 65mins that only score 35, the ribs have clearly limited him to start the year.

    I don't know.. I don't love it - not a slam dunk obvious one by any means, but one I'll be looking at this week for sure.
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    Post by GreenSchist Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:25 am

    robelgordo wrote:

    Was asking myself this question last night. With the crack hooker pairing of Kenny and Boyd, I'm going to need one.

    Robson is keeping his price stubbornly high though. As is Bird.

    JMK playing the dreaded Rd 19 is very very interesting...
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:30 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    McInnis is the obvious choice, I suppose. Sometimes it pays not to overthink.

    Next question: Robson, or JMK for 100k less.

    Koroisau is $100k less than JMK, and is pumping out semi-regular 50s

    How long will McInnes be useful for? When Finucane gets back will he be a sell? Bit worried about his longer term usefullness
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    Post by Reklaw Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:31 am

    Krump wrote:
    Order as listed with Thompson added in at 3.

    Safiti back next week, not sure he gets enough minutes off the bench
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    Post by mattnz Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:32 am

    Crossland, Mahoney, SJ looks like a great combination, between them I get a HLF and a HOK in each of 13,16 and 19 and they cover the off-origin byes for each other as well.
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    Post by WT Winfield Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:34 am

    I was targeting BSmith this week, but other priorities will put him off for another week. I saw him as a 60 min 45 avg guy, maybe too optimistic, but knocking a few points off is still pretty good value and has job security in a decent team. I'm gonna need someone like him at 17th man with the cash I have tied up in other positions.

    Boyd's my only HK cover and I dunno how long I can keep him. Lost 13 points in base with Sexton there and if he sticks around beyond this week, Boyd's fucked.
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    Post by Reklaw Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:37 am

    Well somehow I have managed to claw my way to 12k from my horror round 2 ranking of 52k - when 4 players scored under 11. It's been a tough year, but you legends make it more fun.

    Downside is I cant stop trading and dont see it stopping with Brailey, Tommy and Hoppy all sucking (I may or may not still have HSS).
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    Post by mattnz Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:37 am

    Milchcow wrote:

    Koroisau is $100k less than JMK, and is pumping out semi-regular 50s

    How long will McInnes be useful for? When Finucane gets back will he be a sell? Bit worried about his longer term usefullness


    If it was just Finucane it would be a concern, but Rudolf out long term makes the upside potential too good to ignore.

    You wouldn't want to miss McInnes initially, he performs great, scoring well, then have Finucane come back at prop, with McInnes retaining lock, which there is a decent chance of happening.

    At a minimum, Rodolf being out should secure McInnes 50+ minutes off the bench for 50 points. Will have lost $200k from his starting price. Plays 2 Origin bye rounds.


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