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    Post by Bethany_B Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:32 pm

    Moanaman wrote:Draft #479561

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    @Bethany_B I like your reasoning behind Gagai, he may make the final team

    Not a bad side, I don't hate the Vaughan pod pick, but I think you could optimise this a bit better.

    I think CHT is better than Brooks for 70k less, Averillo is better than Fusitua if he can keep the 5/8 spot, and I don't think it's worth shelling out for McInnes, when you could get Crichton or Taumalolo for 150k less.

    I also don't trust Jack Bird as far as I can throw him, but he's not the worst in such a wasteland of a position. Gagai could fit your side nicely if you can make the room for him.
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    Post by Bethany_B Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:37 pm

    Also I've been weighing up the benefits of running with Fifita or paying 100k more for Matterson, and need to decide which way to go.

    Option A: Fifita + Hetherington (apparently he will start while Thompson's suspended)

    Option B: Matterson + Uto/some other 246k player, doesn't have to be in my 17 as I can move Gilbert and Angus around.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:43 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:I did a bit of fiddling with my side to try to better optimise the cheapies. Thoughts?

    $33k ITB

    Grant
    Lolo, Crichton, Gilbert
    D Fifita, Davey
    Munster, CHT
    Kelly, Averillo
    Turbo, Papy, Hoy

    Lam, Riki, Watson, Liddle

    Niu, Blore, Feagai, Simonsson

    This team is contingent on Munster goalkicking, Averillo getting 5/8 and Niu getting FB. If Gilbert and/or Davey don't get named, my backup options are Ford, Lodge, Ah Mau etc.

    I think it’s a bold move to start without a Cleary or McInnes.

    Cleary is a set and forget captain option. I can see him avg 70 or a bit more.

    Cook, Crichton and Taumalolo won’t avg as high so I guess if you captain them then you’re trying to utilise funds elsewhere to make the points up..
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    Post by Bethany_B Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:46 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:

    I think it’s a bold move to start without a Cleary or McInnes.

    Cleary is a set and forget captain option. I can see him avg 70 or a bit more.

    Cook, Crichton and Taumalolo won’t avg as high so I guess if you captain them then you’re trying to utilise funds elsewhere to make the points up..

    I think Crichton and Lolo are both underpriced, and while Cleary is definitely someone I want, I can't justify spending so much on him. The halves position has a lot of diminishing returns, and I'd rather spend 300k less on Munster and use the money elsewhere.

    Either way, I just updated my team to put Gagai in and set up for whichever one of Matto and Fifita I decide to go with.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:47 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:

    Not a bad side, I don't hate the Vaughan pod pick, but I think you could optimise this a bit better.

    I think CHT is better than Brooks for 70k less, Averillo is better than Fusitua if he can keep the 5/8 spot, and I don't think it's worth shelling out for McInnes, when you could get Crichton or Taumalolo for 150k less.

    I also don't trust Jack Bird as far as I can throw him, but he's not the worst in such a wasteland of a position. Gagai could fit your side nicely if you can make the room for him.

    Brooks when playing at half though last couple of years when Benji wasn’t playing his average is very good and he will dominate kick metres.

    I feel CHT is a bit riskier as his sample size is very small and I don’t rate Nathan Brown as a coach so I’m not sure how they’re gonna go.
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    Post by Bethany_B Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:49 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:

    Brooks when playing at half though last couple of years when Benji wasn’t playing his average is very good and he will dominate kick metres.

    I feel CHT is a bit riskier as his sample size is very small and I don’t rate Nathan Brown as a coach so I’m not sure how they’re gonna go.

    I rate CHT more because of goals and the fact that Nikorima doesn't kick so much. I think the Warriors will go better than the Tigers, even though I don't rate Brown much either.
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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:54 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:Never mind my team from a minute ago, I just did a bit of digging and I've dropped Kelly out of my team for a potentially even better POD centre.

    Dane Gagai.

    If we look at his scores from last year, there's a clear distinction.

    On the wing he averaged 36.9 in 9 games over 70 minutes (he does have an additional score of 14 in 49 minutes and I'm not quite sure what happened there), with 7 tries and 7 line breaks. Lowest score is 16, highest score is 72 (with 3 tries in that match)

    At centre though, he averaged 45.2 in 6 games, with 3 tries and 5 line breaks. Lowest score is 32 and highest score is 59.

    The way I see it, if he stays at centre all year, then he is definitely worth considering for someone to anchor your centres with. A floor of 25-35 and a ceiling of 60-70 is well worth it for such a wasteland of a position.

    As a nice little bonus, he's CTR/WFB dual so you could use him to cover WFB if you need to

    I like the logic even if I personally don't really fuck with spending money on centres. One thing to consider though is that Gagai seems to be Souths go to man out of the backs taking carries coming out of their own end so could have some runs stolen by Mansour since that's his bread and butter
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    Post by Bethany_B Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:56 pm

    Lrkn wrote:

    I like the logic even if I personally don't really fuck with spending money on centres. One thing to consider though is that Gagai seems to be Souths go to man out of the backs taking carries coming out of their own end so could have some runs stolen by Mansour since that's his bread and butter

    Considering that they'll play on opposite sides, I would highly doubt Gagai loses much there. If anything it might make Campbell Graham lose a few points.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:59 pm

    Rumour going around that Jayd’n Su’a has picked up an injury and won’t be right for round 1.

    No idea if there is any truth to it.
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    Post by Camo123 Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:07 pm

    Bethany_B wrote:

    I rate CHT more because of goals and the fact that Nikorima doesn't kick so much. I think the Warriors will go better than the Tigers, even though I don't rate Brown much either.
    Goals are already factored into his scoring/price though so you’re banking on Warriors scoring more tries to get more points
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    Post by Bethany_B Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:10 pm

    Camo123 wrote:
    Goals are already factored into his scoring/price though so you’re banking on Warriors scoring more tries to get more points

    Yes, but CHT's bench games are also priced in.

    He's priced at 35 but averaged 43.6 when he got the starting halfback spot back in round 13

    Either way if I wasn't running CHT, I wouldn't replace him with Brooks, I would just put Lam there and get another forward like Ford or Davey or someone like that
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:28 pm

    Anyone have any idea if Gilbert is in with a shot of starting on an edge for the Cows? According to a Supercoach site he is likely to be 4th choice behind Hess, Dunn, and I can’t recall the other guy.
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:30 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:Rumour going around that Jayd’n Su’a has picked up an injury and won’t be right for round 1.

    No idea if there is any truth to it.
    Was KK or Host most likely to get the other edge? I’ve seen Host as most likely but there seems to be a lot of love for KK on the sites.
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    Post by Bethany_B Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:42 pm

    The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:Anyone have any idea if Gilbert is in with a shot of starting on an edge for the Cows? According to a Supercoach site he is likely to be 4th choice behind Hess, Dunn, and I can’t recall the other guy.

    I've heard he's likely to get the starting edge spot, but it's 4 guys fighting for 2 spots (Hess, Dunn, Gilbert, Wright)
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    Post by Aardvark Ratnick Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:44 pm

    Havent seen Yeo mentioned much around the traps is he an option or others preferred ?????
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    Post by my tv broke Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:55 pm

    Aardvark Ratnick wrote:Havent seen Yeo mentioned much around the traps is he an option or others preferred ?????

    Guess its hard to see value there when hes priced at 58, but if he plays plenty of 80 min games he might avg 60+ ?

    Taumalolo is a little bit more and just feels like the better pick if youre after a big dollar middle
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    Post by Aardvark Ratnick Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:06 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    Guess its hard to see value there when hes priced at 58, but if he plays plenty of 80 min games he might avg 60+ ?

    Taumalolo is a little bit more and just feels like the better pick if youre after a big dollar middle

    Cheers mate I figured as much toyed with both but Lolo wins out.
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    Post by mintotheimmortal Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:03 pm

    what are peoples thoughts on tohu harris if he is playing lock? with Egan playing 80 are we expecting him to play around 60 or push to an edge and play 80
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    Post by Bethany_B Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:06 pm

    mintotheimmortal wrote:what are peoples thoughts on tohu harris if he is playing lock? with Egan playing 80 are we expecting him to play around 60 or push to an edge and play 80

    He could be a handy pod but I think Matterson is a much safer bet at the same price.
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    Post by Aardvark Ratnick Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:14 pm

    The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:
    Was KK or Host most likely to get the other edge? I’ve seen Host as most likely but there seems to be a lot of love for KK on the sites.

    Im sure KK would be in front of Host but in saying that Host and Jason D have history with the Dragons/ Cutters apparently.

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