NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 1 - Offseason Edition

rhinoceroo wrote:Seen it mooted that they've just taken out reduced minute games (eg SJ's injury-hit 7) when calculating prices. Haven't attempted to work out if that's true with 14500 magic number, but means Papenhuyzen might not be as cheap as we're expecting if his small-minute games don't count...

Yeah I bet Pappy will get some fanhub fat. And I expect Luai to get some too.

KingTeddy wrote:Hi guys, just wanted to get some feedback on my draft team (havent even calculated prices or anything just put in who I thought would be good for value etc). Also curious about having the four hookers on the bench, I can see both positives and negatives in it.

Cook

Haas (C) Knight

D.Fifita
Garner (Assuming 80 mins)
Lowe

Cleary
Flano

Burns
Lomax

Lil Papi
Best
Brimson

Bench:
Korisau
Egan
Levi
B.Brailey

This team will most likely not be affordable but the players you have selected all have good upside and value. I personally love the four hookers strategy especially when some get dpp status

KingTeddy wrote:Hi guys, just wanted to get some feedback on my draft team (havent even calculated prices or anything just put in who I thought would be good for value etc). Also curious about having the four hookers on the bench, I can see both positives and negatives in it.

Cook

Haas (C) Knight

D.Fifita
Garner (Assuming 80 mins)
Lowe

Cleary
Flano

Burns
Lomax

Lil Papi
Best
Brimson

Bench:
Korisau
Egan
Levi
B.Brailey

Definitely a good starting point with these players, you're blowing the budget here though.
Here's my 2 cents:
Bold=Gun
Underlined=Must have cow
Italics=Maybe
Strike=No

Chewie wrote:

Definitely a good starting point with these players, you're blowing the budget here though.
Here's my 2 cents:
Bold=Gun
Underlined=Must have cow
Italics=Maybe
Strike=No

Thanks for the feedback mate, much appreciated! Just wondering who would you look at instead of flano and lowe

Just wondering who people are thinking of getting at hooker cook or mcinnes and why?

KingTeddy wrote:

Thanks for the feedback mate, much appreciated! Just wondering who would you look at instead of flano and lowe

Instead of Lowe I would be looking at taking a punt on Carrigan or Leilua
Instead of Flano, to pair up with Cleary, probably someone like Luai, Wakeham, Crossland, or play Brimson in the halves. ( only if they are starting round 1 of course)

mattnz wrote:

Probably neither, lots of value with other hookers, planning on Friend as my starting team hooker.

I havent actually looked into friend

Chewie wrote:
Instead of Lowe I would be looking at taking a punt on Carrigan or Leilua
Instead of Flano, to pair up with Cleary, probably someone like Luai, Wakeham, Crossland, or play Brimson in the halves. ( only if they are starting round 1 of course)

Flano's on my shortlist. More tries/assists on offer at the Roosters, Keary doesn't do much kicking, plenty of conversions.

rhinoceroo wrote:

Flano's on my shortlist. More tries/assists on offer at the Roosters, Keary doesn't do much kicking, plenty of conversions.

Not to mention the inevitable Keary concussion issues. Keary too brave for his own good and this is a real problem for him going forward.

mattnz wrote:

Probably neither, lots of value with other hookers, planning on Friend as my starting team hooker.

Depending on price, I'm most likely going for McInnes. Might not quite be tangible, but being captain suggests to me he'll be playing close to 80 every week. I'm assuming he moves to lock when Luke comes on to sub with Merrin/Lock. I like that rotation if I'm honest. Luke should spark the attack and McInnes will keep grinding out points

mattnz wrote:

Probably neither, lots of value with other hookers, planning on Friend as my starting team hooker.

He'll be first man on my bench. If Verils is on the bench come round one I'll swap him out but I think he'll be an underpriced gun

mattnz wrote:

Probably neither, lots of value with other hookers, planning on Friend as my starting team hooker.

On paper, and presuming a certain price, Friend looks good, but if memory serves correctly he has busted teams each of the last two years with injury, reduced minutes etc..... Im temped by the supposed value, but at the same time potentially scared off as I would like my primary hooker to be one that I can trust.

KingTeddy wrote:

Thanks for the feedback mate, much appreciated! Just wondering who would you look at instead of flano and lowe

I quite like the Flanno and Lowe picks. Both on my short list.

rhinoceroo wrote:Seen it mooted that they've just taken out reduced minute games (eg SJ's injury-hit 7) when calculating prices. Haven't attempted to work out if that's true with 14500 magic number, but means Papenhuyzen might not be as cheap as we're expecting if his small-minute games don't count...

I've yet to run any numbers, but I thought I read that Issako got a premium added to his price? If so, that kinda blows that theory doesnt it? as he didnt have any reduced games....

That said, surely there is some method to it rather than complete subjectivity? Fanhub cant even do their core job properly. I cant imagine they are going through each and every NRL player and deciding whether a premium should be added and if so, how much...

I'm still interested in Ryan James priced at 39.9

That's pretty much his floor average as a second rower, if he moves to the middle he is 10-15 points under priced.

It also doesn't hurt that their edge forwards (Proctor, Cartwright, Stone, Hipgrave, Peachey) are much better than their middle forwards outside of Arrow, Jwal and Fotuaika (Boyd, Latu, Whitbread)

Rapture_NRL wrote:

Might not quite be tangible, but being captain suggests to me he'll be playing close to 80 every week.

Captain or not, McInnes already plays 80 minutes a week. Captaincy can't increase his minutes.

Speaking of minutes, some people say they will select players "if 80 minutes"
How will you determine that pre round 1? Will you just assume all edge back rowers will play 80?

How do American fantasy sports price their players? Formula or SUBJECTIVE? Mostly they do draft right? So maybe how DFS do it.

Fantasy Premier League has subjective pricing, and it isn't an issue at all

Milchy wrote:

Captain or not, McInnes already plays 80 minutes a week. Captaincy can't increase his minutes.

Speaking of minutes, some people say they will select players "if 80 minutes"
How will you determine that pre round 1? Will you just assume all edge back rowers will play 80?

More saying there's reassurance about staying on the field rather than getting subbed at 65 min.

You know this game is all just educated guessing haha but if the bench looks prop heavy, you'll assume the 2RF will be close to 80 min. Especially true if they carry a specialist hooker on the bench.

Milchy wrote:
How do American fantasy sports price their players? Formula or SUBJECTIVE? Mostly they do draft right? So maybe how DFS do it.

Fantasy Premier League has subjective pricing, and it isn't an issue at all

I think they could have made their algorithm more complicated which accounts for these price changes, but I also don’t mind if they’ve just gone “Isaako is pretty certain to play FB and will obviously score more there, let’s make an adjustment”. Like you say it happens in other fantasy sports.