NSW Origin side 2018

Aiken inside Gutho! I like it.

Ice wrote:Aiken inside Gutho! I like it.

That's what he said.

Ice wrote:Aiken inside Gutho! I like it.

I had a dream like that once.

would gutherson not be the perfect 14? can play literally any position in the backs, could go at back row for a bit and even played half a game at hooker last year didnt he

A versatile hooker that can play in every position. Where's DCE & the Gladstone 6 ??

Pieman wrote:would gutherson not be the perfect 14? can play literally any position in the backs, could go at back row for a bit and even played half a game at hooker last year didnt he

Peachey would be better. Can play anywhere and has more explosive capabilities

Honeysett wrote:

Peachey would be better. Can play anywhere and has more explosive capabilities

i dont mind the peach but disagree, wouldnt like seeing him at fullback or wing

Pieman wrote:

i dont mind the peach but disagree, wouldnt like seeing him at fullback or wing

Assuming we go Teddy and T Turbo on the wing you would shift T Turbo to fullback and the centre to the wing with Peachey into the middle. Doesn’t need to be a straight swap as they rarely are.

Honeysett wrote:

Assuming we go Teddy and T Turbo on the wing you would shift T Turbo to fullback and the centre to the wing with Peachey into the middle. Doesn’t need to be a straight swap as they rarely are.

but it can be if its gutherson

And I our hooker goes down? A second rower? It’s easier to cover with Peachey. Who I think is a better player as well. He’s come on as a super sub before and won games for his team. I’d back him over Gutherson.

Honeysett wrote:And I our hooker goes down? A second rower? It’s easier to cover with Peachey. Who I think is a better player as well. He’s come on as a super sub before and won games for his team. I’d back him over Gutherson.

gutherson has played there at club level and would be more than capable to fill in there for a short period.
yep, peachy would be better suited to hooker and back row, gutherson better suited to outside backs and halves.
there are obviously pro's and con's for each.

I certainly dont think peachy is a better player than gutherson, even though both are very good players

Just matter of opinion really. Let's say there's no injuries throughout the game where does Guth slot in? Peachey can do a spell in the second row at least.

I don't believe in having a player for injuries sake. Pick your best 17 and win the game. If you're a good enough team you don't need individuals to do it. You all pick up the slack. Something QLD have done far better than us.

if there are no injuries you plan to use him as a running back rower for short stints as cronk / morgan use too. he could easily play hooker for a short stint also IMO. Gutherson IMO would be very very close to being in the top 17 for NSW. Just as close as Peachy.

Honeysett wrote:And I our hooker goes down? A second rower? It’s easier to cover with Peachey. Who I think is a better player as well. He’s come on as a super sub before and won games for his team. I’d back him over Gutherson.

Wouldn't play TTurbo anywhere near fullback at origin level. Have a close look how often he is out of position or wrong footed. It doesn't come up in fantasy stats because it's not counted as a missed tackle. Defensively he is not one of the top FB's.

I'd defo have Gutho in the starting side before Peachey, ergo I think he is a better footballer. If I want a person to cover halves and backline on the bench, I'd probably also go with Gutho, but I don't ever think you should pick a person purely to cover injuries. You need to pick people on the bench who are going to play a clear role. As I see it, NSW don't have an 80 minute hooker, to that end, I'd pick the most inform Hooker to start at 9, then I'd decide what I want after that. Do I think Peachey can come on an add real spark out of dummy half and do purely that role better than Gutho? I'd have to say yes, so the question then is, is Peachey's ability to do that and possibly cover a few other roles going to be better than if I just chose my next best dummy half running hooker? If the answer is yes, I go with Peach, if the answer is no, then I take two hookers into the game with a very clear plan on how I plan to use them.

Will be interesting to see which way Fittler goes, as I really don't think any of the NSw hookers have what it takes to play 80 Quality Origin minutes.

surely nsw starting hooker has to be mcinnes, with cook on the bench. cook is tearing teams apart

I'd be fine with that.

Thoughts on Addo-Carr?

I'm not against it.

Ice wrote:Thoughts on Addo-Carr?

I'm not against it.

who would be?
he is a proven winner and big match player

keary has nearly certainly put a x through his name with the way he has been playing recently too

Im calling it - Gutherson at 6

Ice wrote:I'd defo have Gutho in the starting side before Peachey, ergo I think he is a better footballer. If I want a person to cover halves and backline on the bench, I'd probably also go with Gutho, but I don't ever think you should pick a person purely to cover injuries. You need to pick people on the bench who are going to play a clear role. As I see it, NSW don't have an 80 minute hooker, to that end, I'd pick the most inform Hooker to start at 9, then I'd decide what I want after that. Do I think Peachey can come on an add real spark out of dummy half and do purely that role better than Gutho? I'd have to say yes, so the question then is, is Peachey's ability to do that and possibly cover a few other roles going to be better than if I just chose my next best dummy half running hooker? If the answer is yes, I go with Peach, if the answer is no, then I take two hookers into the game with a very clear plan on how I plan to use them.

Will be interesting to see which way Fittler goes, as I really don't think any of the NSw hookers have what it takes to play 80 Quality Origin minutes.

My thoughts on the bench these days is that other than big props, most of the elite Origin level players can and should be playing 80 mins.

To that end, I have grown to like having an outside back type on the bench, as opposed to the traditional 'utility' that can spend some time in the forwards if need be.

Easier to cover forwards with other forwards already there and the other factor is that generally, the pretty boy outside backs are more likely the blokes getting injured too.