2017 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 32

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Surely the scorers and anyone related to Fanhub wouldn't be allowed to participate in the game.

Something like conflict of interest.

Yup absolutely mate, but the response to that will be something along the lines of "doing it for their mates etc". Prozone is a legit company with way too much to lose for there to be any systematic corruption in the way they produce their stats. Its a bit silly even giving that kind of stuff the credibility of a response to be honest.

Their stats for example are purchased by a lot of sporting organisations and teams for analytics. Any hint of systematic corruption in their stats and prozone would stand to lose a ton of money in contracts. No doubt it happens every now and then on an extremely minor scale, but more likely its just people getting the shits when their players score poorly

Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Surely the scorers and anyone related to Fanhub wouldn't be allowed to participate in the game.

Something like conflict of interest.

Of Course. But if they are actually fiddling the scores, they wouldn't be silly enough to use their own names on the accounts.

They also wouldn't be doing it to win Fanhub prizes. They'd be rigging the big Daily Fantasy comps (DraftsStars/Moneyball) where there is decent money on offer every week (and any impact on Fantasy scoring would just be a side-effect) At the top end in those comps a slight under or over on performance can have a big effect so if you did it effectively you could profit.

Now, there is corruption in a lot of places, especially where gambling is involved, so you can't rule out that it is happening. But if you have solid evidence that people are cheating the scores for financial gain, then I'd go to the authorities with it, or the guys running the DFS comps, as they would probably be interested.

rhinoceroo wrote:

I'm looking at Jacks to KNiko for price rises and round 12 (Hunt still out then?) then I have bank to go either Yates to NBrown or do something a bit different and go Elgey to Munster (who I'd then switch with Fogerty to WFB).

Watching how Munster played yesterday he could score amazingly...defending as a half so lots of tackle points but floating around both sides in attack like a second fullback. Consideration is if plays Origin he misses four rounds. Who's likely to be QLD centres? O'Neill certainly, but then Gagai if Slater FB and Boyd wing? Munster a chance though.

Dont forget chambers and oates as possibilities

Rippin and Tearin wrote:
What are peoples thoughts on Jacks? Is he worth holding for the Bye rounds?

Depends on if Munster's return forces him out of the squad or to a bench/utility role.

If its the former then there is no rush to do anything.

If its the latter then you'll need to trade out soon or he'll start bleeding cash.

Milchcow wrote:

Tell me then rabbit. Who are these favorites?
Which players consistently score better under prozone's stats than they would if they used NRLStats/Champion/Fox data?

Some of Fifita's sideways runs last year were overscored IMO. Doesn't seem to be the case this season.

Milchcow wrote:

Depends on if Munster's return forces him out of the squad or to a bench/utility role.

If its the former then there is no rush to do anything.

If its the latter then you'll need to trade out soon or he'll start bleeding cash.

OK cheers. I guess depending on the format of the game one could just hold him for the byes and take the hit on cash. At least you get a half that'll play 2 of the tough bye rounds right? I guess Im thinking more VTSD where it seems money is a bit more easy come easy go....

Score could be anything this week hopefully end up around 900
603 with Fifita Gallen ET CHN Norman Idris Suli

Trades this week will be difficult
Wanted to go Jacks>Walker and Kaufusi>Tolman
Kaufusi looks like he will make another decent chunk of cash and Walker should lose a bunch so holding off would cost me points but make it easier to grab those few extra players I want for the byes

Already have my best score of the year with 841/15 with ET and Gallen to go and I am still going to lose my H2H.... and I cant really hope for low scores from opposing team as he is running 2 players I am milking for cash

how did Niko go non fantasy wise? and without his try how would he of scored? missed the game

FebruaryChamp wrote:

Some of Fifita's sideways runs last year were overscored IMO. Doesn't seem to be the case this season.

He's a classic example of them moving on.

Pookus McFly wrote:I postulate that not only is the NRL fantasy scoring being manipulated by those who calculate the NRL data for personal financial gain, but that in fact NRL Fantasy never actually existed in the first place and was always an elaborate Fanhub hoax to fool the masses. Mind. fucking. blown.

Shit. We are living in the Matrix

760 with Pritchard, ET, CHN and Idris left. What's your guess? Mine - 933.

silvertop wrote:

Dont forget chambers and oates as possibilities

Chambers will 100% make it.

Wall of text coming lads...

I think you all make good points. Rabs youre right about it being too subjective but youre WROOOOONG that specific players are favoured with the intent for a fantasy coach to have a ranking benefit. This is different to #pandagate but its always good to be suspicious anyway.

But, before you bite my head off I definitely will agree with you that those players, offensively we keep naming fifita/teddy/nofo and lately rapana, hess, crichton.

And defensively taylor/burgess name is coming up, are scored adversely BECAUSE of their PLAYING STYLE. Elgey and Carter dont count cos they're just rubbish defenders.

The blokes ive named (and there are more) are, I reckon, given bonus TB's and MT's because of their involvement in specific areas of the game. The offensive players ive said use their fend excessively (not a bad thing) compared to others and defenders like elijah are getting pinged because they dont always hit and stick in their tackles.

So when milch is talking about 'what constitutes' a TB or MT it bloody does get subjective. And the interpretation of those things across the different bean counting crews (prozone, nrl and whoever supercoach uses) agrees and contradicts each other.

Plus i dont think the reviews are being done like they used to (no sauce), but FWIW i was going to go for an interview to be a stat counter in Pyrmont about 5 seasons ago til i found out the pay and hours was poor.

The way those blokes play is kind of hypnotizing the student visa stat counters. The TB has always been overpowered.

Pookus McFly wrote:I postulate that not only is the NRL fantasy scoring being manipulated by those who calculate the NRL data for personal financial gain, but that in fact NRL Fantasy never actually existed in the first place and was always an elaborate Fanhub hoax to fool the masses. Mind. fucking. blown.

Well NRL having a 3 letter acronym is clearly a triangular shoutout to their reptilian overlords

Pookus McFly wrote:I postulate that not only is the NRL fantasy scoring being manipulated by those who calculate the NRL data for personal financial gain, but that in fact NRL Fantasy never actually existed in the first place and was always an elaborate Fanhub hoax to fool the masses. Mind. fucking. blown.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was all Trump's fault