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    Post by standard-issue Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:44 pm

    Please please no-one post the Norman/Seggers footage again!  If you can't help yourself then at least put it behind a spoiler...
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:48 pm

    SI wrote:Please please no-one post the Norman/Seggers footage again!  If you can't help yourself then at least put it behind a spoiler...

    I am one of the rare few who has yet to see that footage and I would like to keep it that way.
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    Post by Honey Badger Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:02 pm

    my tv broke wrote:i think King, Pritchard, and IDG will all get a go at hooker at some point.

    They could even run robson as the utility that way if an outside back goes down robson goes to half and gutherson out wide.

    So if they start with IDG then king might not even get a bench spot
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    Post by Warriors Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:22 pm

    Scouter wrote:With all this talk of Vaughan what do people think hes going to produce at the Dragons that he couldn't produce at Canberra?

       
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    Price             Player                      Avg Score    Avg Mins          Played             Avg Score                 Avg Mins          Avg Score After Origin
    388000         Paul Vaughan           40.9            39.8                   10                    47                           44.9                  44.5
    253000         Addin Fonua Blake    26.7             27.9                   2                     42                           45.5                  26.42
    323000         Matt Prior                34.0             42.4                  13                    39.77                       49.69                41.25
    355000         Daniel Saifiti            36.4             43.7                    15                    39.27                      47.267              41
    302000         George Burgess       31.9             38.8                   8                     38.125                      46.875               30
    292000         Jarrod Wallace         30.8            36.4                   9                     37.89                         47.44                30.375
    I think the bottom four all have their potential to be midrange traps.

    Paul Vaughan is a better player than only getting forty minutes.
    Just think early on he can hit the ground running and score in the 45-50 range.
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    Post by No Worries Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:30 pm

    SI wrote:

    The timeline I think was that he was announced in the team Friday, and then Saturday morning told the club about his charge.  Allthough something doesn't seem right and bluetige thought it was all over another forum prior.

    Wouldn't be the first time the Tigers picked someone so they would fail a drug test and would allow them to terminate the players contract.
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    Post by my tv broke Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:32 pm

    No Worries wrote:

    Wouldn't be the first time the Tigers picked someone so they would fail a drug test and would allow them to terminate the players contract.

    from what i read the tigers found out via a media source (DT) and "confronted" Lovett
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    Post by Krump Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:33 pm

    No Worries wrote:

    Wouldn't be the first time the Tigers picked someone so they would fail a drug test and would allow them to terminate the players contract.
    Say what? Who's this referring to?
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    Post by Milchcow Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:56 pm

    lewis9966 wrote:isaac de gois named as part of eels leadership group. be weird if he doesnt play at all then surely?

    With extended leadership groups some of them won't always be in first grade. Parra named an 8 man leadsership group. I bet there are very few weeks where all 8 play first grade at the same time.
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    Post by No Worries Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:58 pm

    Krump wrote:
    Say what? Who's this referring to?

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    Post by Milchcow Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:16 pm


    On the mid range props.

    Generally they are a bad idea. Established forwards rarely suddenly become fantasy guns overnight.

    It does happen though. Last year Ryan James went from a mid 30s mistake ridden plodder to 60 average fantasy heavyweight.
    On the other hand, Lesson Ah Mau (last pre-seasons equivalent of Vaughan) went from an average of 40 to just over 33.

    That's why George Burgess interests me most of the mid range props. He has averaged around 50 for 3 years in a row before stuttering last year. I'd rather back him returning to those highs than on Vaughan significantly improving on his 3 year average of low 40s
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:28 pm

    Milchcow wrote:
    On the mid range props.

    Generally they are a bad idea. Established forwards rarely suddenly become fantasy guns overnight.

    It does happen though. Last year Ryan James went from a mid 30s mistake ridden plodder to 60 average fantasy heavyweight.
    On the other hand, Lesson Ah Mau (last pre-seasons equivalent of Vaughan) went from an average of 40 to just over 33.

    That's why George Burgess interests me most of the mid range props. He has averaged around 50 for 3 years in a row before stuttering last year. I'd rather back him returning to those highs than on Vaughan significantly improving on his 3 year average of low 40s

    Same reason I think JWH is more likely to return to form than Wallace is to suddenly become a good fantasy player
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    Post by Chewie Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:45 pm

    Milchcow wrote:
    On the mid range props.

    Generally they are a bad idea. Established forwards rarely suddenly become fantasy guns overnight.

    It does happen though. Last year Ryan James went from a mid 30s mistake ridden plodder to 60 average fantasy heavyweight.
    On the other hand, Lesson Ah Mau (last pre-seasons equivalent of Vaughan) went from an average of 40 to just over 33.

    That's why George Burgess interests me most of the mid range props. He has averaged around 50 for 3 years in a row before stuttering last year. I'd rather back him returning to those highs than on Vaughan significantly improving on his 3 year average of low 40s

    I'm thinking of starting with McGuire, DSaifiti, with AFB (just because he's the flavour of the day) + 143k as reserves.
    This gives me the option of moving McGuire to the 2RFs later, and trading out DSaifiti for Gurgess if George is looking to be back to his usual self. (I would prefer to start with Fifita or Graham, but that would blow the budget as I'm already spending big on my twin cam in the Hooker position)
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    Post by Pookus McFly Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:47 pm

    I'm finding the FRF the most difficult to lock down. Pretty much every other position I have had unchanged for some time, but the FRF I keep fiddling with will always open up new cash options which affects silly things in my team (like who my reserve hooker is, probably my most flux non-FRF position; whether I run with Slater or chip in a little extra for Holmes; If I carry a mid-range NPR like Aloiai). The problem is that the pool list of FRF players I am interested in is far too large, so I can swap and change until the cows come home. Really only 3-4 players I'm interested in at WFB anyway, 2-3 at CTR, I don't like any HLFs as it is but I begrudgingly chose 2, Sometimes I add ET to my second row but usually go back to my mid-rangers fairly quick.

    And yet...

    FRF potentials:
    Fifita, Bromwich, McGuire, Vaughan, Klemmer, Daifiti, Brown/Alvaro (if either starts), JWH, Prior, Paasi (when fit), Gurgess, Wallace, AFB, Musgrove, Matagi
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    Post by No Worries Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:57 pm

    Will Hopoate thinking about playing Sundays. 2 questions

    1. How would this affect price ?
    2. Do the Bulldogs have the cap space to allow him to play Sundays ?
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    Post by Warriors Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:59 pm

    Milchcow wrote:
    On the mid range props.

    Generally they are a bad idea. Established forwards rarely suddenly become fantasy guns overnight.

    It does happen though. Last year Ryan James went from a mid 30s mistake ridden plodder to 60 average fantasy heavyweight.
    On the other hand, Lesson Ah Mau (last pre-seasons equivalent of Vaughan) went from an average of 40 to just over 33.

    That's why George Burgess interests me most of the mid range props. He has averaged around 50 for 3 years in a row before stuttering last year. I'd rather back him returning to those highs than on Vaughan significantly improving on his 3 year average of low 40s

    True but with Farah wanting 80 and cook playing 30 mins, Rochow coming to the club, Surgess 80 mins just don't see Gurgess returning to the scores he once did when he was getting good minutes, think the game may have changed in a way where the twins are just too exposed out there and there scores suffered last year. By taking a gamble on Vaughan I can always downgrade to Gurgess if he goes off, just not sure there is much room to manoeuvre when you start in the 350 - 300K bracket.
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    Post by my tv broke Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:03 pm

    lonescout has replied to people on twitter today saying there is no set date yet for when fantasy will open. i just dont know how they get away with being so amateur about it all.
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    Post by Chewie Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:01 pm

    Kostjasyn sidelined for 12 weeks Shocked

    Knights players are dropping like flies Evil or Very Mad  

    Mullverine... Poorly Poorly...


    Must be something in the water, beter not drink any of the tap-water here in Newy
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    Post by Honeysett Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:17 pm

    Not sure what to believe with Rory, every article says 6 weeks and only the one of them says 12 however it's on the NRL website
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    Post by RandomSil Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:30 pm

    Who is the next man up at the Knights for Hooker now assuming Rory doesn't make it Round 1? and assuming Mullen is out..

    9) Levi
    7) Hodkinson
    6) Lamb

    14) Cogger
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    Post by kiwimoose Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:48 pm

    Random wrote:Who is the next man up at the Knights for Hooker now assuming Rory doesn't make it Round 1? and assuming Mullen is out..

    9) Levi
    7) Hodkinson
    6) Lamb

    14) Cogger

    Surely Randell??
    Correct me if I'm wrong. He is probably injured or signed to another club.

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