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    NRL Fantasy 2023 Part 82 - Baggie Time

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    Post by mattnz Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:54 pm

    Finding it hard to put together a decent team within the cap. Going to need a number of base priced players to be available.

    Early example squad:

    Brailey
    Curran May Brandon
    Fifita Lucas
    Cleary Fogarty
    Mariner Cotric
    Ponga Kiraz Weekes

    Schuster Angus Piakura Lawton
    4x250k

    $22k remaining
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    Post by mrbrownstone Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:54 pm

    Just got the email that fantasy's open already. Wasn't even on my radar, that caught me off guard.

    Must resist the temptation to make a team before the New Year, that seems excessively early. It won't be easy...
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    Post by mattnz Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:08 pm

    One of the hardest selections to start the season will be which of the premium WFBs to run with, under a limited cap. Ponga, Teddy, Turbo, Drinkwater. Any of them could start the season on fire, but can't have more than 1 or 2 at most.
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    Post by Bethany_B Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:05 am

    mattnz wrote:One of the hardest selections to start the season will be which of the premium WFBs to run with, under a limited cap. Ponga, Teddy, Turbo, Drinkwater. Any of them could start the season on fire, but can't have more than 1 or 2 at most.

    The answer to that question is none of them.

    Papenhuyzen at 495k (or Fa'alogo at 263k if he isn't ready in time) + 2 cheapies is the way to go, paying up for WFBs at the start of the season is almost never worth it.
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    Post by mattnz Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:20 am

    Bethany_B wrote:

    The answer to that question is none of them.

    Papenhuyzen at 495k (or Fa'alogo at 263k if he isn't ready in time) + 2 cheapies is the way to go, paying up for WFBs at the start of the season is almost never worth it.

    If Ponga comes out scoring like he did the last half of last season to win the Dally M, he had 1 score under 53 in the last 11 rounds he played and an average in the mid 60s, you won't want to be one of the few that miss him.

    The problem with cheap backs, is they are cheap for a reason. Talau, HSS, Cotric, Naden etc. If you go to the next level up in the $400-500k range, you might as well spend a bit more and get a genuine gun, that is likely at least as undervalued.
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    Post by StuDogg101 Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:47 am

    Moanaman wrote:

    Too much cricket on for that nonsense Stu!

    You're not wrong..but as a sports hoe I will take it all at once if it's available
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    Post by Shady2K Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:51 am

    mattnz wrote:

    If Ponga comes out scoring like he did the last half of last season to win the Dally M, he had 1 score under 53 in the last 11 rounds he played and an average in the mid 60s, you won't want to be one of the few that miss him.

    The problem with cheap backs, is they are cheap for a reason. Talau, HSS, Cotric, Naden etc. If you go to the next level up in the $400-500k range, you might as well spend a bit more and get a genuine gun, that is likely at least as undervalued.

    Every year there's an argument to not start with premium WFB and you want Ponga after a career Dally M year haha
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    Post by mattnz Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:54 am

    Shady2K wrote:

    Every year there's an argument to not start with premium WFB and you want Ponga after a career Dally M year haha

    Ponga is undervalued, because he kept getting injured while playing at 6. His average at fullback is much higher than he is priced and is in career best form.

    He has 1 season since being at Knights, where he hasn't hit $800k during the year.


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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:59 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:Aside from the usual suspects being thrown around on social media I quite like 2 "bargain" middles Adam Elliott and Matt Lodge. Elliott shouldn't have to share minutes too much with Mann moving on (maybe Crossland ends up in this role?) so hoping he can get back to 49 points 55 minute average he had at Canberra back end of 2022. Lodge is a wildcard but showed capable of 50 average in his limited stint at Manly. Maybe he times the meltdown well and skips a few byes as well with his midseason club change this year

    Lodge is expected to be injured for the first few rounds of the season. Will be worth a look down the line, but cross him out of starting squad.

    It's Leniu season anyway.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:43 am

    Snatchpato wrote:
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    A Roosters fan that doesn’t hate Souths you would be the first I’ve ever met and vice versa it’s very rare………
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:48 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Lodge is expected to be injured for the first few rounds of the season. Will be worth a look down the line, but cross him out of starting squad.

    It's Leniu season anyway.

    Will be interesting to see how many mins Robbo gives Leniu. Looks like he’s priced at about 29 to me. What probs want him playing 45mins to be interested.
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    Post by Bethany_B Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:58 am

    mattnz wrote:

    Ponga is undervalued, because he kept getting injured while playing at 6. His average at fullback is much higher than he is priced and is in career best form.

    He has 1 season since being at Knights, where he hasn't hit $800k during the year.

    I'm still not convinced that it's worth starting with any premium WFB, teams seem to defend better and attack worse in the first few rounds which affects WFBs a lot. Starting with top tier fullbacks is what you do when playing Supercoach.

    Ponga is a perfectly fine pick but I think buying him at about round 5 is the better way to go, once you've had a few weeks of cash generation.

    By starting with Ponga, you aren't starting with someone else at his price range, and I would much rather start with guys like Grant, Cleary, Haas and Hynes (my current draft has all four but there's a decent chance I will have to give up one to make it work)
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:53 am


    Starting without Ponga after his career year would be like starting 2022 without Tommy Trbo after his stellar 2021
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    Post by Chewie Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:18 am

    What is this?? opening up a month early
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:22 am


    Given site is open now, we can start the 2024 threads in earnest

    https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t2337-nrl-fantasy-2024-part-1-gates-are-open-come-on-in

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