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    NRLFF Survivor Season 2 - Part 2

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    Post by easytiger Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:37 am

    Chewie wrote:Also FS just to clarify, is this assumption correct:

    2020 FRF = 2022 Survivor Retro MID

    2020 2RF = 2022 Survivor Retro EDG

    ???

    Good question, which also lends to the question;
    How many FRF and 2RF (2 & 3 respectively in 2020 from memory?)
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    Post by Papadontbleach Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:33 am

    Get in my team Harry Grant
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    Post by wolfking Wed Jul 20, 2022 12:51 pm

    So the 4 scoring reserves can be any position?
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    Post by Teeth Eater Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:43 pm

    easytiger wrote:

    Good question, which also lends to the question;
    How many FRF and 2RF (2 & 3 respectively in 2020 from memory?)

    Would love to know this if I have a small window to look at this tonight. I'd actually assume it'd be this year's format, just with the player pool from 2020? I'll set up this way unless I hear otherwise.
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    Post by wolfking Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:27 am

    I'm jus doing this years format.  I don't have time to spend on this today so whipping something up quickly now.  Going to assume the 4 bench players can be any position.

    Edit: Team done and sent.
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    Post by Chewie Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:26 am

    yeah I'm assuming we have this year's format, with FRF=MID and 2RF=EDG.
    And RES & EMG positions of your choice (at your own risk)
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:41 am

    Does the emergency players count in the 7mil cap or not?
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    Post by easytiger Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:54 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:Does the emergency players count in the 7mil cap or not?

    FS: you need to make a team of 21 with a salary cap of $7,000,000 (13 regular positions, 4 reserves that will score and 4 emergency players)


    So YES they do count

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    Post by easytiger Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:02 am

    Chewie wrote:yeah I'm assuming we have this year's format, with FRF=MID and 2RF=EDG.
    And RES & EMG positions of your choice (at your own risk)

    The problem as I see it is that in 2020 anyone playing 13/Lock was grouped into the 2RF position, whereas now that position is part of the MID - which is of course why we shifted from 3 * 2RF, 2 * FRF to 2 * EDG, 3 * MID

    FS does say "positions are as shown on the link" - So to me that means we are working off FRF & 2RF positions which were always 2 FRF and 3 2RF in Fantasy?



    What would make the most sense of course is if FS jumped on here every now and then and answered some questions...

    OR if he's too busy/can't do that, then maybe a past player or helpful forum member might volunteer to take on the role of making decisions around challenge clarifications or even nominate a survivor player each week to make a decision on those assumptions/interpretations ??? what do you reckon FS?

    I mean the challenge closes in 7 hours and a fairly key bit of information continues to remain unclarified - which seems to be the pattern every week....
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:17 am

    As an interested observer, I think 3x2RF, 2xFRF makes most sense given the player classifications
    (Jason Taumalolo and Jake Trbojevic 2RF only for example)

    I created a team last night that was valid with either interpretation due to DPP. But I don't actually have anything riding on it so don't have to worry as much as others.
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:25 am

    if FS/others are willing, I am happy to make decisions on clarifying contest rules.

    As long as it restricted to technical rules around what a valid team is and nothing that might impact anything to do with the immunity/elimination aspect. Main preference would be Falcon doing it though, as sometimes contests have deliberate loopholes/funny business put in them and I don't want to go against his intent.
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    Post by easytiger Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:45 am

    Milchcow wrote:if FS/others are willing, I am happy to make decisions on clarifying contest rules.

    As long as it restricted to technical rules around what a valid team is and nothing that might impact anything to do with the immunity/elimination aspect. Main preference would be Falcon doing it though, as sometimes contests have deliberate loopholes/funny business put in them and I don't want to go against his intent.

    IMO I think that would be ideal - thanks for offering Milch

    I don't mind what the ruling is on anything challenge related, I imagine we all just want a level playing field and to know what will ultimately be a valid team/entry.
    This 2RF v EDG count for instance is a pretty significant ruling in terms of team setup/validity.


    I respect it's FS's decision - but if we don't hear from him, I wonder if this week if both interpretations are ruled as valid? (given people may have already submitted teams)
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:51 am

    I agree there is too much confusion around challenges and not enough clarification
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:53 am

    Avo out shit there goes my centre lol!
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    Post by Chewie Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:59 am

    easytiger wrote:

    The problem as I see it is that in 2020 anyone playing 13/Lock was grouped into the 2RF position, whereas now that position is part of the MID - which is of course why we shifted from 3 * 2RF, 2 * FRF to 2 * EDG, 3 * MID

    FS does say "positions are as shown on the link" - So to me that means we are working off FRF & 2RF positions which were always 2 FRF and 3 2RF in Fantasy?



    What would make the most sense of course is if FS jumped on here every now and then and answered some questions...

    OR if he's too busy/can't do that, then maybe a past player or helpful forum member might volunteer to take on the role of making decisions around challenge clarifications or even nominate a survivor player each week to make a decision on those assumptions/interpretations ??? what do you reckon FS?

    I mean the challenge closes in 7 hours and a fairly key bit of information continues to remain unclarified - which seems to be the pattern every week....

    Everyone just select Tino as your MID/EDG dual....

    Fixed!
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    Post by Rabbits21 Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:28 am

    Chewie wrote:

    Everyone just select Tino as your MID/EDG dual....

    Fixed!

    I currently have him there in my draft anyway all solved!
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    Post by wolfking Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:38 am

    I've done it based on the current layout with 3 MID's and 2 EDG. I'm not going through and changing it now, I won't have time this arvo.
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    Post by B/L Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:17 am

    I for one welcome our new cow overlord.
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    Post by Chewie Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:34 am

    B/L wrote:I for one welcome our new cow overlord.
    yeah if you don't submit a team it doesn't really matter what the rules are Razz
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    Post by wolfking Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:36 am

    B/L wrote:I for one welcome our new cow overlord.

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