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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 3 - Max or Josh?

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    Post by manlybeaver Fri Feb 25, 2022 1:14 am

    I'm definitely not starting with cleary or turbo. Bench and starting team look so much more well rounded without them. My last draft untill tlt.

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    Croker smith
    Teddy nofo Russell

    Nanai bullemor fermor tuilagi

    Walters fifita eseese w Smith

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    Post by mattnz Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:54 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Yep. There are occasional players where you *know* they're going to get a starting run soon from bottom price. Grant would be an example when everyone knew he was getting loaned to the Tigers but it hadn't happened by the start of the season. Suaalii might be an example this year, but he's not base price so probably best to wait until he's fit. Patolo is not an example. He looks pretty decent for a bench spot (and he played bench middle not edge in the first trial as far as I could see) but is behind two players the club rate highly for 2RF, and when the inevitable suspension does come who's to say it doesn't coincide with RFM coming back from injury?

    Based on trial teams, Patolo is likely behind Waddel as well.

    There appears to be a lot of cheap forwards that are a good chance of starting in round 1. There shouldn't be a need to manufacture one.
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    Post by mattnz Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:58 am

    manlybeaver wrote:I'm definitely not starting with cleary or turbo. Bench and starting team look so much more well rounded without them. My last draft untill tlt.

    Koro
    Ipap Angus tpj
    Katoa fifita (c)
    Hynes Ilias
    Croker smith
    Teddy nofo Russell

    Nanai bullemor fermor tuilagi

    Walters fifita eseese w Smith


    We may have found the Dolphin Alt
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    Post by Moanaman Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:20 am

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

    Sorry bro, I am not a fish. I am a cetacean. Dolphins are intricately pleated kents and do not post fantasy irrelevant teams from New Zealand

    And yet The Broncos was one of your first..... Razz
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:25 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    Mildly arrogant enough to give me Rabbit vibes, but nowhere near arrogant enough. Too prolific, and somewhat helpful to be Rabbit anyway. Contrarian but not Mattnz level contrarian. Mod level wittiness. A lack of SI posts to date. Form for alts. I'm gonna say the alt is the resident softcock.

    Don't forget asked for IT help
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:28 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Yep. There are occasional players where you *know* they're going to get a starting run soon from bottom price. Grant would be an example when everyone knew he was getting loaned to the Tigers but it hadn't happened by the start of the season. Suaalii might be an example this year, but he's not base price so probably best to wait until he's fit. Patolo is not an example. He looks pretty decent for a bench spot (and he played bench middle not edge in the first trial as far as I could see) but is behind two players the club rate highly for 2RF, and when the inevitable suspension does come who's to say it doesn't coincide with RFM coming back from injury?

    I remember back in the day picking Chee Kam and Lussick because they were hyped in preseason and likely to get a start soon. Two season long red dots gave me one of my first fantasy lessons not to start with guys who don't play
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:58 am

    filthridden wrote:
    26. Jayden Corrigan - Dumb name. Means he's probably good at league 6/10

    Mavrik Geyer for rookie of the year 11/10
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    Post by No Worries Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:05 am

    We still need another 8 entrants in the VSDT to fill both leagues. Plenty of people haven't returned yet. Time is running out !!
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:49 am

    This is good content from the Titans, people love to talk about this stuff - https://www.titans.com.au/news/2022/02/24/who-have-been-the-titans-top-pre-season-performers/

    Toward the bottom (training the house down grain of salt) - The top five players who have been the biggest overall improvers in strength from the gym are Sam McIntyre, Jaimin Jolliffe and Tanah Boyd alongside Dave Fifita and Patrick Herbert.
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    Post by Chewie Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:03 am

    Milchcow wrote:What's the best thing about pre-season?

    "Filth's previews" is the wrong answer

    The correct answer is random posting of draft teams. so here is one

    Randall
    TPJ Uto Bullemor
    Fifita Nanai
    Cleary Sexton
    Burton Tago
    Hynes Crichton Coates

    Fermor Paix Ilias Tuilagi
    AFifita ($867k worth of cheapies)

    Gun in every position*, bit of depth about. Just need TLT to be kind enough to let it happen

    *except for the fantasy wasteland that is hooker. Who needs those, right?

    Did you copy and paste my team? I've got the same starting 13 bar Coates (I'm planning on starting with CNK if he gets the FB gig)
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    Post by TheRookie101 Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:08 am

    I’m struggling to decide out of Sexton and Burton for my last pick. I can’t afford both and I find them a 50/50 split. Anyone got any pro’s and con’s they can provide? I might be over looking something which may sway me a certain way.

    Thanks everyone!
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    Post by mattnz Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:14 am

    TheRookie101 wrote:I’m struggling to decide out of Sexton and Burton for my last pick. I can’t afford both and I find them a 50/50 split. Anyone got any pro’s and con’s they can provide? I might be over looking something which may sway me a certain way.

    Thanks everyone!
    Sexton is less likely to be a season keeper. Burton will almost certainly be a keeper at center.
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    Post by easytiger Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:21 am

    Anyone considering Braden Hamlen-Uele?

    2019 averaged 36.9 in 36.5 mins (1.01PPM)
    2020 averaged 36.7 in 42.8 mins (0.86PPM)
    2021 averaged 28.5 in 39.5 mins (0.72PPM)

    2021 under Josh Morris was 39.2 in 57.2 mins, vs under Josh Hannay 24.7 in 33.2 mins

    Obviously a fairly lackluster season, hence an interesting price tag of $362k to enter 2022.

    Does fitness/effort coach Fitzgibbon get more out of him? also with the influence of Finucane (Bellamy claims he's the best trainer he's ever had) and McInnes? - trying not to sound too much like you-know-who...

    A good potential upside in the difficult MID position and should have decent JS.
    He's been a very inconsistent Fantasy scorer in the past; very capable of scoring a 50+ but equally capable of putting out a 13 point score as well.

    I think POD's to start the year are an over-rated strategy, but fairly tempted to roll the dice on him.
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    Post by The Bludger#2 Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:25 am

    Chewie wrote:

    Did you copy and paste my team? I've got the same starting 13 bar Coates (I'm planning on starting with CNK if he gets the FB gig)
    Laugh isn't that my game plan?
    Actually, I've made a couple of changes so The Bludgers are a little different.
    Here's hoping the good ol Corn-Cobb gets the fullback gig and becomes the "next GI".
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    Post by robelgordo Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:28 am

    easytiger wrote:Anyone considering Braden Hamlen-Uele?

    2019 averaged 36.9 in 36.5 mins (1.01PPM)
    2020 averaged 36.7 in 42.8 mins (0.86PPM)
    2021 averaged 28.5 in 39.5 mins (0.72PPM)

    2021 under Josh Morris was 39.2 in 57.2 mins, vs under Josh Hannay 24.7 in 33.2 mins

    Obviously a fairly lackluster season, hence an interesting price tag of $362k to enter 2022.

    Does fitness/effort coach Fitzgibbon get more out of him? also with the influence of Finucane (Bellamy claims he's the best trainer he's ever had) and McInnes? - trying not to sound too much like you-know-who...

    A good potential upside in the difficult MID position and should have decent JS.
    He's been a very inconsistent Fantasy scorer in the past; very capable of scoring a 50+ but equally capable of putting out a 13 point score as well.

    I think POD's to start the year are an over-rated strategy, but fairly tempted to roll the dice on him.


    Definitely an interesting one. He really feels like one of those MIDS that could easily make the leap if given the minutes, but could also just continue with a bench impact role that doesn't have much fantasy value. Like Spencer Leniu, but with a much better worked punch and peoples elbow.
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    Post by robelgordo Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am

    I'm tempted to watch the Storm just to get a look at Tyran Wishart. If his quads are half as sexy as his old mans, he'll be a good footy player  NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 3 - Max or Josh? - Page 26 1f60d
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:31 am

    TheRookie101 wrote:I’m struggling to decide out of Sexton and Burton for my last pick. I can’t afford both and I find them a 50/50 split. Anyone got any pro’s and con’s they can provide? I might be over looking something which may sway me a certain way.

    Thanks everyone!

    Sexton
    Pro: Is priced at 48 despite averaging ~55 last year with new scoring.
    Pro: Partnered next to Brimson could increase his share of the kicking
    Con: 3 of his 4 games last year were Titans 13+ victories. Won't consistently be in games with so many attacking points on offer


    Burton
    Pro: Only kicked 125m a game last year. That is going to increase
    Con: Scored 16 tries last year. That is going to decrease
    Pro: Priced at 48, he averaged 60 (new scoring) in the halves last year
    Con: That was for the premiers. He now plays for the wooden spooners
    Pro: He comes with your choice of frogurt
    Con: The frogurt is laced with potassium benzoate
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    Post by The Bludger#2 Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:33 am

    easytiger wrote:Anyone considering Braden Hamlen-Uele?

    2019 averaged 36.9 in 36.5 mins (1.01PPM)
    2020 averaged 36.7 in 42.8 mins (0.86PPM)
    2021 averaged 28.5 in 39.5 mins (0.72PPM)

    2021 under Josh Morris was 39.2 in 57.2 mins, vs under Josh Hannay 24.7 in 33.2 mins

    Obviously a fairly lackluster season, hence an interesting price tag of $362k to enter 2022.

    Does fitness/effort coach Fitzgibbon get more out of him? also with the influence of Finucane (Bellamy claims he's the best trainer he's ever had) and McInnes? - trying not to sound too much like you-know-who...

    A good potential upside in the difficult MID position and should have decent JS.
    He's been a very inconsistent Fantasy scorer in the past; very capable of scoring a 50+ but equally capable of putting out a 13 point score as well.

    I think POD's to start the year are an over-rated strategy, but fairly tempted to roll the dice on him.
    I've always enjoyed watching H-U and Rudolf IRL as the Sharks prop rotation, hard running and hitting no nonsense props.
    The main question we're all wondering is what the Sharks middle rotation minutes will look like.
    Apart from H-U, you're looking at Finucane (especially if McInnes is Locked in), Rudolf, Tolman, Williams, A. Fifita as well as Hunt and Pele in the top 30. That's a pretty solid Middle rotation, so if McInnes is a 60+ min Lock, and Finucane can play big minutes, how many are left over?
    If H-U sits at 40 mins, what's to say his PPM will improve markedly since 2019. 
    I agree that the Middle is a bot of a wasteland this year - unless you pay Gun $.
    I'm leaning towards the Bull at $330k, hoping that he grabs the Edge spot for a few weeks and is then 1st up in the Manly middle rotation.
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Feb 25, 2022 9:38 am


    Just further on Burton

    Dogs start out with easier games against Broncos and Cowboys, then have a tough run of Manly, Storm, Panthers Rabbitohs.

    Few ways you can look at it
    a) If he is underpriced by 10 points , then draw doesn't matter. Barring injury he is unlikely to get cheaper than his starting price.
    b) Draw doesn't matter. He'll get attacking points against crap teams and kicking points against good ones
    c) He will score well, but not well above starting price so you can start with a cheaper cash cow and bring Burton in several rounds in. This would let you get a look at him to see how his role/scoring is at the Dogs.
    d) You just aren't interested in him in any way and look somewhere else (until/unless his scoring proves you wrong)

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