NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 92 - Fanatics Anonymous Off Season

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

I am curious Pookus, when you were gazing upon Mr Collins, what salubrious feature of the fine man put this idea in your pretty little head beyond his fine numbers? I ask because indeed they were more than enough for me!!1

Well I did give a few already, but lucky for you i’m always happy to go into finer detail when it comes to Lindsay Collins!: Calves like engine pistons, glutes you could ride a bike across, and biceps to turn a man biceptual. Don’t encourage me- I could just go on and on.

And I said DONT look at the numbers!

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/11/04/cotter-eager-to-lock-in-middle-role-in-2022/

What are the odds of Cotter being a 60+ minute starting lock? If any closer to 80, he would be a must-have at 500k. Seems like T,mlolololololo is destined for smaller minutes in the middle?

I refuse to believe that any coach can dig his heels in about a player that much. Taumalolo was the best lock in the game just a season ago and he’s only 28. With a new season, Payten can play him for big minutes at lock without having to swallow any pride. Only fly in the ointment is not knowing what goes on in the background. Maybe Todd just flat out doesn’t like Jason.

Good lookin rooster

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Pookus McFly wrote:

I refuse to believe that any coach can dig his heels in about a player that much. Taumalolo was the best lock in the game just a season ago and he’s only 28. With a new season, Payten can play him for big minutes at lock without having to swallow any pride. Only fly in the ointment is not knowing what goes on in the background. Maybe Todd just flat out doesn’t like Jason.

Lolo averaged 61.6 mins per game in 2020. In 2021 he averaged 59.4 mpg. [He was injured in Rd 1. After returning from injury in Rd 8, he was eased back in with a sub 50 minute game. After that he averaged 61.2 mins per game.]

His form dropped last year, averaging just 0.8ppm. Easily his lowest ppm since 2014.

I have him pencilled in my starting team.

Pookus McFly wrote:

Well I did give a few already, but lucky for you i’m always happy to go into finer detail when it comes to Lindsay Collins!: Calves like engine pistons, glutes you could ride a bike across, and biceps to turn a man biceptual. Don’t encourage me- I could just go on and on.

And I said DONT look at the numbers!

This is my approach to 2022. I wont be considering stats

Te Maire Martin given a dev contract by the Broncos (had been there since start of pre season on a trial)

Fair chance he is in the 6 jersey by years end

my tv broke wrote:Te Maire Martin given a dev contract by the Broncos (had been there since start of pre season on a trial)

Fair chance he is in the 6 jersey by years end

Yeah, but going on last year there's decent odds Kevvie will give me a run at some stage too.

Seriously though, great to hear TMM is back after that brain bleed.

FalconSloth wrote:Titans currently have 23 players isolating and only 14 players training currently

Just in relation to this:
GOLD COAST TITANS COVID-19 STATUS (JAN 7 2022)

Training: 14

Tino Fa’asuamaleaui, AJ Brimson, Phillip Sami, Isaac Liu, Tanah Boyd, Beau Fermor, Jojo Fifita, Sam Mclntyre, Aaron Booth, Jamin Jolliffe, Herman Ese’ese, Esan Marsters, Iszac Fa’asuamaleaui, Isaac Matalavea-Booth

In isolation: 23
(22 confirmed infections)

David Fifita, Moeaki Fotuaika, Jayden Campbell, Toby Sexton, Corey Thompson, Brian Kelly, Kevin Proctor, Jarrod Wallace, Sam Lisone, Erin Clark, Tony Francis, Greg Marzhew, Joe Vuna, Patrick Herbert, Tom Weaver, Will Smith, Shallin Fuller, Alofiana Khan-Pereira, Paul Turner, Treymain Spry, Klese Haas, Jaylan de Groot, Ben Liyou

Club CEO said better now than in April.
Load up Matt

easytiger wrote:

Just in relation to this:
GOLD COAST TITANS COVID-19 STATUS (JAN 7 2022)

Training: 14

Tino Fa’asuamaleaui, AJ Brimson, Phillip Sami, Isaac Liu, Tanah Boyd, Beau Fermor, Jojo Fifita, Sam Mclntyre, Aaron Booth, Jamin Jolliffe, Herman Ese’ese, Esan Marsters, Iszac Fa’asuamaleaui, Isaac Matalavea-Booth

In isolation: 23
(22 confirmed infections)

David Fifita, Moeaki Fotuaika, Jayden Campbell, Toby Sexton, Corey Thompson, Brian Kelly, Kevin Proctor, Jarrod Wallace, Sam Lisone, Erin Clark, Tony Francis, Greg Marzhew, Joe Vuna, Patrick Herbert, Tom Weaver, Will Smith, Shallin Fuller, Alofiana Khan-Pereira, Paul Turner, Treymain Spry, Klese Haas, Jaylan de Groot, Ben Liyou

Club CEO said better now than in April.
Load up Matt

Thanks, only Sexton is on my radar of all of those players.

rhinoceroo wrote:Hey Rabbits, what's your opinion on Davvy Moale? Can imagine him filling out a lot of 18-21s if he gets a bench spot.

If we are fully fit mate I have a feeling he might just be outside our best 17. If he is in our 17 I’m not sure he will get the minutes to be fantasy relevant if he’s just getting say 25mins off the bench.

Nicholls
Cook
Tom/Tatola
Arrow
Keaon
Murray

Tatola/Tom
Host
Sele
Knight


Havili
Moale
Chee Kam
Jed

Jumping Marlin wrote:

Lolo averaged 61.6 mins per game in 2020.  In 2021 he averaged 59.4 mpg.  [He was injured in Rd 1. After returning from injury in Rd 8, he was eased back in with a sub 50 minute game. After that he averaged 61.2 mins per game.]

His form dropped last year,  averaging just 0.8ppm.  Easily his lowest ppm since 2014.  

I have him pencilled in my starting team.

You make a good point and he's been in and out of my side over the past few weeks

How confident are we he can get his PPM back up?
Why was it so low in 2021?
Plus you've got to factor in that he will lose points from tackle breaks being worth 2 instead of 3

I can see Carrigan getting the same, if not better scores for $32k less
So for Taumalolo to be a better option, he would need to outscore Carrigan by 2.6 points per week

Stefano will also get similar scores to Taumalolo, maybe slightly less, but is $63k cheaper
For Taumalolo to be a better option, he would need to outscore Stefano by 5.1 points per week

That being said, I have Cotter as my 3rd Mid atm and if Taumalolo starts lock over Cotter I might end up bringing him in

I think Cotter was getting some big minutes and through a lot of work before his injury. Without looking at his price, he might be a bit awkward for Fantasy but deifnitely on my draft radar. Mobile locks are back baby - whether it’s utilities (Watson, Peach, D Walker) or converted hookers (Cheese, MCInnes, Cotter). Load up

Rabbits21 wrote:
If we are fully fit mate I have a feeling he might just be outside our best 17. If he is in our 17 I’m not sure he will get the minutes to be fantasy relevant if he’s just getting say 25mins off the bench.

Nicholls
Cook
Tom/Tatola
Arrow
Keaon
Murray

Tatola/Tom
Host
Sele
Knight


Havili
Moale
Chee Kam
Jed

Agree with the pecking order here but I reckon the 4th bench spot will either go to Taaffe playing a 2019 Papenhuyzen kind of role, or maybe even Havili/Mamouzelos if Souths think they can get more out of Cook playing 60 minutes. Seems to be a trend for hookers to play less and that could suit Cook.

robelgordo wrote:I think Cotter was getting some big minutes and through a lot of work before his injury. Without looking at his price, he might be a bit awkward for Fantasy but deifnitely on my draft radar. Mobile locks are back baby - whether it’s utilities (Watson, Peach, D Walker) or converted hookers (Cheese, MCInnes, Cotter). Load up

Did you forget about Mann?

The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

Did you forget about Mann?

Wouldnt surprise me to see Hodgson getting that role as well this season, with Starling starting Hooker.

Aitken is a must have, averaged 64 on the edge last season.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/warriors/127443732/make-or-break-year-for-warriors-in-nrl-says-euan-aitken

That’s something Aitken could be involved in, but he said Warriors coach Nathan Brown sees him predominately as a second rower now, with his strong defensive skills being a benefit to the team.

“He has mentioned that he’ll look to use me in both (second row and centre), but it looks like I’ll start the year playing in the back row, because he thought it would strengthen our team defensively with leg speed and also it gives the team extra interchange, because I can play 80 minutes,” Aitken said.

“So he thought it was more valuable to the team with me being in the second row.”

mattnz wrote:Aitken is a must have, averaged 64 on the edge last season.”

You may be right.  

But bear in mind that was only a 5 game sample you counted, which does not a full fantasy season make. He scored 4 tries in those 5 games, and made a tad over 4 tackle busts per game - not sure either is sustainable??

And, no upside from offloads either. He made none when he played second row, and he’s now gone more than 650 minutes on the field since his last offload.  

Jumping Marlin wrote:

You may be right.  

But bear in mind that was only a 5 game sample you counted, which does not a full fantasy season make. He scored 4 tries in those 5 games, and made a tad over 4 tackle busts per game - not sure either is sustainable??

And, no upside from offloads either.  He made none when he played second row, and he’s now gone more than 650 minutes on the field since his last offload.  

Having seen Aitken in the CTRs for the Dragons for years, I’ll be shocked if he ever offloads in a tackle. I’m not sure he knows you’re allowed to pass.

Is the magic number similar to last season - around 12500?

On Aitken, who makes way for Tohu Harris when he comes back?

If Aitken wasn't selectable at CTR I doubt I'd even look at him. Like Marlin said, his massive try haul in his sample from last year will have inflated his scoring. Will look at him if he starts the year in 2nd row, but I am a bit dubious.