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    NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 67 - Stop the rank crying and get on with it!

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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:05 pm

    Just heard on the radio Bennett has confirmed he has moved back to Brisbane and wants to coach the new Brisbane team in 2023, with Demetriou replacing him at Souths. Got me thinking... those who have been around for a while, how did you guys navigate around teams having bye's every week? Was it annoying? Surely they would have to increase squad sizes.
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    Post by Ponga Yeo the Mann Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:08 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:Frizell and Edrick back at Knights training. Jones might be shorter than expected
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    The friz had tight rope surgery on his ankle. 6-7 weeks is pretty standard these days. 5 would be a new record for the NRL

    Hopefully he’s back soon though we need him
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    Post by L-Jimmy Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:08 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:Just heard on the radio Bennett has confirmed he has moved back to Brisbane and wants to coach the new Brisbane team in 2023, with Demetriou replacing him at Souths. Got me thinking... those who have been around for a while, how did you guys navigate around teams having bye's every week? Was it annoying? Surely they would have to increase squad sizes.

    Just thinking about BBL fantasy, where a lot of player picks comes down to the bye schedule. A different sort of game - much more trade heavy and less long-term gun/cow. Suspect increased trades rather than squads.

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    Post by ynot Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:13 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:



    Don't have the stats handy but anecdotally we have seen teams moving from splitting kicking duties to having one dominant kicker since COVID break. Because of this I tried to guess which halves would dominate kick metres and start with those: Cleary, Moses, Munster, Lam. I got 2 of those wrong with Hughes/Munster having a more traditional split + Keary dominating more than Lam. As we saw the strategy was good I just picked the wrong cattle. Starting Townsend over Lam as an example would have worked wonders.

    Kick metres samples from round 2 2020 including top 2 from each team:

    Dogs Wakeham 221, Lewis 363
    Cowboys Drinkwater 101, Morgan 527
    Dragons Norman 273, Hunt 240
    Panthers Luai 143, Cleary 355
    Broncos Milford 277, Turpin 73
    Rabbits Burns 50, ARey 202
    Warriors CHT 131, Green 341
    Raiders Wighton 158, Williams 252
    Roosters Keary 104, Flanno 343
    Manly Walker 124, DCE 598
    Sharks SJ 221, Townsend 182
    Storm Munster 229, Hughes 177
    Tigers Benji 383, Jrey 31
    Knights Pearce 339, Ponga 154
    Titans Roberts 49, Taylor 345
    Eels Moses 438, Brown 59

    Only really Morgan, DCE, Moses, Benji and Taylor really dominated kick metres with the rest being split fairly evenly. Compare this to the most recent round where DCE (300), SJ (604), Burton (470), Arey (488), Clifford (665) all had massive kick metres. Plus we have seen what Cleary, Fogarty, Moses, Pearce, Averillo and Doueihi have done all year

    Here's a chart showing the average share of kick metres for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd ranked kickers for each game across seasons. Hasn't changed much, more kick metres in the last few years though which seem to have been taken by the primary kicker.

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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:16 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:Just heard on the radio Bennett has confirmed he has moved back to Brisbane and wants to coach the new Brisbane team in 2023, with Demetriou replacing him at Souths. Got me thinking... those who have been around for a while, how did you guys navigate around teams having bye's every week? Was it annoying? Surely they would have to increase squad sizes.

    Byes every week are a pain in the ass. If you played Milchy's 2006 comp recently it could leave you short of players very quickly

    I definitely prefer 4-6 rounds of byes congested in the middle of the season
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:19 pm

    ynot wrote:

    Here's a chart showing the average share of kick metres for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd ranked kickers for each game across seasons. Hasn't changed much, more kick metres in the last few years though which seem to have been taken by the primary kicker.

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    Cheers looks like dominate kicker is hanging in the 60-70% mark but total volume is increasing.
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    Post by Honey Badger Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:19 pm

    MayorofAlburquerque wrote:
    That was also something I'd considered. Its hard to gauge whether its the rise of one, fall of one, or both happening simultaneously.

    No McInnes is obviously the big one. 
    Grant's year has been derailed by injury.
    Would have been interesting to see where they ended up.

    I guess the thing is it looks like the elite HKR is somewhere around 60 points per game, but the HLF is +65, so it suggests a shift in the tiers of positions.

    The Mayor.

    BSmith is the gun hooker this year, get on
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:22 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:Frizell and Edrick back at Knights training. Jones might be shorter than expected
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    Worst case he gets the one more week starting for 40 points, keeps that BE low and comes off the bench for 30 points in 16 and we sell in 17.

    I’d be more than happy with that contribution
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    Post by robelgordo Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:23 pm

    ynot wrote:

    Here's a chart showing the average share of kick metres for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd ranked kickers for each game across seasons. Hasn't changed much, more kick metres in the last few years though which seem to have been taken by the primary kicker.

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    Kick metres returning to 2013 levels, when Jamie Soward last played. Not a coincidence.

    Proportions not changing significantly is interesting, although clearly wbetween clubs there would be variation i.e. some dominant club kickers taking 60%, other clubs 80-90%. If a club that kicks a lot of metres also has a very dominant kicker, that's the target
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    Post by wolfking Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:28 pm

    Ponga Yeo the Mann wrote:

    The friz had tight rope surgery on his ankle. 6-7 weeks is pretty standard these days. 5 would be a new record for the NRL

    Hopefully he’s back soon though we need him

    What round do you think he returns mate? Only been what 2-3 weeks so far?
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    Post by GreenMachine Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:29 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Sorry it wasn’t deliberate I copied and pasted it as I posted it on discord to a mate and it’s easier to copy and paste than just re type the whole thing.

    I’m happy for you to change it back to normal font size no problem.

    That is my first post in around 24 hours so what I don’t appreciate is 4-5 downvotes immediately.

    More posts mentioning downvotes. You know what comes next Rabs
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:33 pm

    Random Though:

    Anyone seen that video of the news reporter in NZ in the Library.

    Guy in the library: "Blah Blah Blah, this is a fucking library"

    News reporter: "This is the fucking news"



    ABSOLUTE CRACK UP


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    Post by wolfking Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:33 pm

    Just a fine for Fifita.

    https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/06/16/nrl-fines-fifita-over-pre-season-incident/
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    Post by BCT05 Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:34 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:Random Though:

    Anyone seen that video of the news reporter in NZ in the Library.

    Guy in the library: "Blah Blah Blah, this is a fucking library"

    News reporter: "This is the fucking news"



    ABSOLUTE CRACK UP

    Haha yeah it's a classic
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    Post by Dttragic2016 Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:37 pm

    Are any non origin players going to be playing next week? I thought there aren't any other international games so basically everyone else gets a rest.

    Imo this means players who have been injured have two weeks to return, origin guys could get injured and also any crazy results this weekend could lead to team changes too.

    Basically what I'm getting at is with all this uncertainty it's hard to go balls to the wall with 4 trades this week.

    Atm got SJ and Simo in. Wasn't even considering Simo until I saw how cheap he was, fact that he plays r17 and wfb is one position I could be tested in if hynes is eventually back to the bench, teddy doesn't back up and walsh gets a break at any point.

    2 trades atm laurie and momi to sj and simo. 13 trades left and 35k itb.

    Going to go hard from next week onwards to trade in r17 guys who have leaked cash like afb and guns like tohu.
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    Post by wolfking Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:40 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:Random Though:

    Anyone seen that video of the news reporter in NZ in the Library.

    Guy in the library: "Blah Blah Blah, this is a fucking library"

    News reporter: "This is the fucking news"



    ABSOLUTE CRACK UP

    Haha, that's fucking gold is what it is.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:41 pm

    Dttragic2016 wrote:Are any non origin players going to be playing next week? I thought there aren't any other international games so basically everyone else gets a rest.

    Imo this means players who have been injured have two weeks to return, origin guys could get injured and also any crazy results this weekend could lead to team changes too.

    Basically what I'm getting at is with all this uncertainty it's hard to go balls to the wall with 4 trades this week.

    Atm got SJ and Simo in. Wasn't even considering Simo until I saw how cheap he was, fact that he plays r17 and wfb is one position I could be tested in if hynes is eventually back to the bench, teddy doesn't back up and walsh gets a break at any point.

    2 trades atm laurie and momi to sj and simo. 13 trades left and 35k itb.

    Going to go hard from next week onwards to trade in r17 guys who have leaked cash like afb and guns like tohu.

    Pretty sure there are a few random ones.

    There is Malta v. Lebanon next Saturday at Belmore Sports ground... not sure if NRL players will be involved?
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    Post by Khany Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:44 pm

    Adam Reynolds will be sitting on the end of his bed in his hotel room tomorrow night, with his head in his hands thinking, 'What the fuck have I done.
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    Post by Moanaman Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:45 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:Random Though:

    Anyone seen that video of the news reporter in NZ in the Library.

    Guy in the library: "Blah Blah Blah, this is a fucking library"

    News reporter: "This is the fucking news"



    ABSOLUTE CRACK UP

    Thats Paddy Gower. He's a ligit News reporter. This was done for a comedy show
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:48 pm

    Moanaman wrote:

    Thats Paddy Gower. He's a ligit News reporter. This was done for a comedy show

    Don't ruin my childhood!

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