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    Post by Chewie Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:04 pm

    WT Winfield wrote:

    Probably name him 14 and might start over Tino on gameday, like how he's started FR a couple of times. Storm play 3 Sunday games in the last 5, so could be a sweat.

    I'm kinda expecting Tino to play LK though and BSmith bench, but could depend how Tino handles the role.

    I'm bummed about missing out on Tino as a cash-cow, he would have been a great pick-up
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    Post by mrbrownstone Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:12 pm

    Is Talau to Hopoate sideways? Talau's coming off a disappointing score and has a tough draw, but he's still averaging 35. Hopoate's career average 70+ mins at fullback is 40.1 so a 5 point upgrade (maybe a little more if Talau's average continues to slide). Worth it for the higher ceiling?
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:14 pm

    Can someone help me here… not sure if I have worked this out properly.

    This is keeping Haas:
    This week I will do Butcher > Teddy
    R15 I will take Herbie = 30, Cotric = 35, Sironen = 35, Lucy = 55.. = 155 + 65 from captaining Cleary = 220
    R16 I will take Sironen = 35 , Lucy = 55 and Cotric v Herbie = 35.. = 125 (cameron smith should be back, pushing Koro to bench and Herbie/Cotric into EMG) + 65 from captaining cleary = 190
    R17 Haas Back, so Carrigan moves to bench. So will take Haas = 70 x 4 (140 x 4 as he will be captain), Lucy = 55 x 4 and Cotric v Sironen = 35 x 4 … = 920 (bench will be Koro, Carrigan, Moses and Cotric v Sironen)

    Total Points = 1,220

    Trading Haas and bringing back in
    This week I would do Haas > Bateman and Butcher > Teddy (leaves 128K)
    R15 I will get Bateman = 60, Sironen = 35, Cotric v Herbie = 35, Lucy = 55 … = 185 + extra 65 from captaining Cleary = 250
    R16 Smith back pushes Koro to bench. Will get Bateman = 60 , Lucy = 55 and Cotric v Herbie = 35 … = 150 + 65 from cleary = 215
    R17 I should just have enough for Lucy to Haas (leaving me 1 trade for the final 3 weeks) and I will get Haas = 140 x 4, Bateman = 60*4 and Cotric v Sironen = 35*4 (same bench as above) = 940

    Total Points = 1,405.

    If I trade Haas and bring him back in it results in an extra 185 points and 1 less trade.


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    Post by Tommy_gun Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:19 pm

    mrbrownstone wrote:Is Talau to Hopoate sideways? Talau's coming off a disappointing score and has a tough draw, but he's still averaging 35. Hopoate's career average 70+ mins at fullback is 40.1 so a 5 point upgrade (maybe a little more if Talau's average continues to slide). Worth it for the higher ceiling?
    That’s an upgrade especially if Hoppa remains at FB, but it is a bit of a luxury trade. Depends on how many trades you have up your sleeve
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    Post by RandomSil Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:22 pm

    Isnt it Round 15?
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    Post by SilverBackMonster Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:22 pm

    mrbrownstone wrote:Is Talau to Hopoate sideways? Talau's coming off a disappointing score and has a tough draw, but he's still averaging 35. Hopoate's career average 70+ mins at fullback is 40.1 so a 5 point upgrade (maybe a little more if Talau's average continues to slide). Worth it for the higher ceiling?

    I am also considering this, or maybe starling to Hopate and Talau to emergency wfb/ctr cover. Argh this week got me considering some random trades. Probably wont do any lol
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:28 pm

    RandomSil wrote:Isnt it Round 15?

    Yeah mate... I done fucked up... changed now
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    Post by Chewie Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:43 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:Can someone help me here… not sure if I have worked this out properly.

    This is keeping Haas:
    This week I will do Butcher > Teddy
    R15 I will take Herbie = 30, Cotric = 35, Sironen = 35, Lucy = 55.. = 155 + 65 from captaining Cleary = 220
    R16 I will take Sironen = 35 , Lucy = 55 and Cotric v Herbie = 35.. = 125 (cameron smith should be back, pushing Koro to bench and Herbie/Cotric into EMG) + 65 from captaining cleary = 190
    R17 Haas Back, so Carrigan moves to bench. So will take Haas = 70 x 4 (140 x 4 as he will be captain), Lucy = 55 x 4 and Cotric v Sironen = 35 x 4 … = 920 (bench will be Koro, Carrigan, Moses and Cotric v Sironen)

    Total Points = 1,220

    Trading Haas and bringing back in
    This week I would do Haas > Bateman and Butcher > Teddy (leaves 128K)
    R15 I will get Bateman = 60, Sironen = 35, Cotric v Herbie = 35, Lucy = 55 … = 185 + extra 65 from captaining Cleary = 250
    R16 Smith back pushes Koro to bench. Will get Bateman = 60 , Lucy = 55 and Cotric v Herbie = 35 … = 150 + 65 from cleary = 215
    R17 I should just have enough for Lucy to Haas (leaving me 1 trade for the final 3 weeks) and I will get Haas = 140 x 4, Bateman = 60*4 and Cotric v Sironen = 35*4 (same bench as above) = 940

    Total Points = 1,405.

    If I trade Haas and bring him back in it results in an extra 185 points and 1 less trade.

    What about missing out on another Lucy banner in round 19?
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    Post by my tv broke Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:49 pm

    I decided early on to trade out Haas but ive just started to come around to the idea of holding him and trading Hetho to Ofa.

    Ofa should play big mins over the next two weeks and probably beyond for the rest of the season. Should keep the starting spot with lodge, flegler and pangai all gone for the season.

    With no haas this week and the make up of our bench, he will probably need to play 55-60 mins.

    Biggest issue is his form, hes been pretty awful. It was back in 2018 that he was solid, in games over 50 mins he avgd 51 pts. Across the entire season he averaged 42.

    If he could get close to 50 over the next two weeks he might nearly match whoever i trade haas to.. if they have quietish games. After that, hes a reasonable 18th man assuming he does keep that starting spot, but who else is there at the Broncos..
    Hmmmmmmm


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    Post by Rabbits21 Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:49 pm

    wolfking wrote:Might captain Hunt over McInnes.
    I don’t reckon Hunt will be making as many tackles against Brisbane.

    I’m backing McInnes I think to bust quite a number of tackles and possibly score a try.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:51 pm

    my tv broke wrote:I decided early on to trade out Haas but ive just started to come around to the idea of holding him and trading Hetho to Ofa.

    Ofa should play big mins over the next two weeks and probably beyond for the rest of the season. Should keep the starting spot with lodge, flegler and pangai all gone for the season.

    With no haas this week and the make up of our bench, he will probably need to play 55-60 mins.

    Biggest issue is his form, hes been pretty awful. It was back in 2018 that he was solid, in games over 50 mins he avgd 51 pts. Across the entire season he averaged 42.

    If he could get close to 50 over the next two weeks he might nearly match whoever i trade haas to.. if they have quietish games. After that, hes a reasonable 18th man assuming he does keep that starting spot, but who else is there at the Broncos..
    Hmmmmmmm
    I brought this up yesterday but no one seemed to like it.

    Do you think it’d be better for me to bring JFH or Ofa in? Ofa is probs better value and saves lots of cash to get Haas back in?
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    Post by RandomSil Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:52 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:
    RandomSil wrote:Isnt it Round 15?

    Yeah mate... I done fucked up... changed now

    So to clarify with Haas you play

    RD 15 - Herb or Cotric
    RD 16 - Sironen

    Without Haas you play Bateman

    RD 15 - Bateman
    RD 16 - Bateman

    So could you Sironen + Lucy to Bateman in Round 17 and save the trades for the two weeks.

    How much does Bateman outscore Cotric/Herb the 1st week and Sironen the 2nd week?

    That is the real difference and is it worth 2 trades when you could save then for piece of mind for 2 weeks and then with 3 rounds to go make big moves.

    Also Butcher starting is good.
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    Post by wolfking Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:54 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    I don’t reckon Hunt will be making as many tackles against Brisbane.

    I’m backing McInnes I think to bust quite a number of tackles and possibly score a try.

    I'm not thinking tackles, I'm thinking line breaks, TA's, tries etc.
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:55 pm

    RandomSil wrote:

    So to clarify with Haas you play

    RD 15 - Herb or Cotric
    RD 16 - Sironen

    Without Haas you play Bateman

    RD 15 - Bateman
    RD 16 - Bateman

    So could you Sironen + Lucy to Bateman in Round 17 and save the trades for the two weeks.

    How much does Bateman outscore Cotric/Herb the 1st week and Sironen the 2nd week?

    That is the real difference and is it worth 2 trades when you could save then for piece of mind for 2 weeks and then with 3 rounds to go make big moves.

    Also Butcher starting is good.

    Probably by about 35-40 in R15 and probably 30-35 in R16... Also NEED to get Teddy in so Butcher to Teddy has to happen this week
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    Post by wolfking Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:56 pm

    my tv broke wrote:I decided early on to trade out Haas but ive just started to come around to the idea of holding him and trading Hetho to Ofa.

    Ofa should play big mins over the next two weeks and probably beyond for the rest of the season. Should keep the starting spot with lodge, flegler and pangai all gone for the season.

    With no haas this week and the make up of our bench, he will probably need to play 55-60 mins.

    Biggest issue is his form, hes been pretty awful. It was back in 2018 that he was solid, in games over 50 mins he avgd 51 pts. Across the entire season he averaged 42.

    If he could get close to 50 over the next two weeks he might nearly match whoever i trade haas to.. if they have quietish games. After that, hes a reasonable 18th man assuming he does keep that starting spot, but who else is there at the Broncos..
    Hmmmmmmm

    That's the thing, he's been fucking awful. I can't afford him, but looking at Kennedy. He'd be a solid backup for two weeks if holding Haas. There's also a chance he moves Ofa to the bench perhaps when Haas returns?
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    Post by Rabbits21 Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:56 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    I'm not thinking tackles, I'm thinking line breaks, TA's, tries etc.
    Oh ok.

    Do you think if I have Ofa as 17th man from this point would that be ok?

    Surely with TPJ, Lodge and Flegler all out he won’t see an less than 50mins a game.

    I was keen on JFH but Ofa is like 270k cheaper.
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    Post by wolfking Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:57 pm

    StormTrooper96 wrote:

    Probably by about 35-40 in R15 and probably 30-35 in R16... Also NEED to get Teddy in so Butcher to Teddy has to happen this week

    Just go with your gut mate. Don't let us convince you otherwise. Ted hasn't been as effective behind a weaker team. THere'd be no rush to get him. He's not garunteed a big score against the Tigers. Tigers will take a bit of confidence out of the win last week.
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    Post by Loomer Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:57 pm

    I'm coming round to reasoning that if only use 1 trade of remaining 4 it has to be 2RF/FRF for 642k or less. Only have 4 active 2RF and 2 FRF + Haas

    The best in that price range appears to Lawrie. JFH scoring been up and down lately. Lawrie is pretty nailed starting right (I think he is just playing devil's advocate)
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    Post by wolfking Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:58 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Oh ok.

    Do you think if I have Ofa as 17th man from this point would that be ok?

    Surely with TPJ, Lodge and Flegler all out he won’t see an less than 50mins a game.

    I was keen on JFH but Ofa is like 270k cheaper.

    I don't know mate. I don't think he scores anywhere near what JFH scores.
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    Post by my tv broke Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:58 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    That's the thing, he's been fucking awful.  I can't afford him, but looking at Kennedy.  He'd be a solid backup for two weeks if holding Haas.  There's also a chance he moves Ofa to the bench perhaps when Haas returns?

    Problem with kennedy, hes gassed after 15 mins.

    No doubt ofa has been poor, he has a motor at least.

    He has actually played better in the last couple of weeks, just eye test wise. Has been having a bit more of a dig..

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