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    Post by WT2K on Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:12 pm

    Musgrove > Katoa only trade. Usually wait for R2 to end before trading but may need the two trades available next week.
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    Post by Hannah2 on Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:47 pm

    I only got 1044 last round, but had points sitting on the bench. Not sure if I should trade this week or give players like Stimson another chance.
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    Post by Teeth Eater on Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:15 pm

    General question, hombres. Do you guys pay for BE's or do you just loosely make your decisions based on the BE's for Fantasy? Even if they no doubt differ.
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    Post by Clack Bocks on Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:35 pm

    Loosely on fantasy but really just eyeball rough price compared to past scores
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    Post by t43597 on Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:37 pm

    I didn't look at BEs last season but bought assistant coach for them this year. I would not look at the fantasy BEs and think they are comparable to be honest. You might as well just take a guesstimate. I don't think you need them too often but I am willing to provide the BEs from assistant coach if required
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    Post by Teeth Eater on Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:08 pm

    Cool. Yeah, I figure just keeping an eye on general form and loose reference to Fantasy BE's should provide a pretty good idea on who to pursue and who to dump.
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    Post by t43597 on Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:13 pm

    @Hannah2 wrote:I only got 1044 last round, but had points sitting on the bench. Not sure if I should trade this week or give players like Stimson another chance.

    It is always a tough question whether you trade early or not. I like to look at a few factors as a guide;

    1-scores from bench.

    If they are all decent it probably is advisable to wait a week as on average you'd expect that to continue for most of bench players. It is unlikely that more than 3-4 follow up a decent round 1 score with a shit one and thus put themselves on the chopping block. If 2-3 plus scores are poor and there are good cash cow replacements then trading may be considered

    2-player role/how they scored their points/minutes played

    This is where watching the game helps heaps. For instance, Stimson is a good example. Yes he scored poorly but he had a good role and bulk minutes. He made a couple mistakes too. On average if he retains minutes and role he should score higher, whether that happens is imo more important than score.

    Jack Williams is another. Played good minutes and got almost all his points from base stats but did he show any signs of an offensive game? Answer has to be no which means he's upside is limited. However, does this mean you trade him given his price? My answer is probably not as at least you know what you get and it's decent for his price. However if there are value substitute options then you can consider it.

    Finally an example is lomax. On face value his 55 seems good for hiss price but if you watched you'd know he was absolutely gifted a try under the posts and then held up players over the try line. He barely got any ball and his team were backed up on the try line for most of the game, especially the 2nd half. Yes he had the job of kicking goals but apart from that he was lucky to get the score he did. Now he has been named on a wing which is most likely less conducive to quality scoring, obviously dependant on the player and team. Those facts show that his score was
    highly inflated so I think he should be on chopping block. For me since I don't have any pressing issues I'll most likely keep him 1 more week but I plan to use a trade on him next week.

    3- The options available

    This is pretty self explanatory but it obviously helps determine whether you pull the trigger and again it is best that you look at point 2 first. What are the options available and why did they score as they did. Why is in my opinion more important than what when it comes to scores.

    4.Fixture and formlines

    Won't explain this much but strength of draw can affect scores and patches of form are wise to follow.

    So yeah that is my long-winded way of saying that BEs are good to look at but by no means do they tell the full story. I look at the above before BEs most of the time. After doing the above analysis as well as I can, then I think about the money side of things and the trades I predict I will use etc
    Hope this was somewhat informative
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    Post by WT2K on Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:50 pm

    @Teeth Eater wrote:Cool. Yeah, I figure just keeping an eye on general form and loose reference to Fantasy BE's should provide a pretty good idea on who to pursue and who to dump.

    I have it but mainly because I forgot to cancel it lol.

    Go here for all that stuff for free https://www.nrlsupercoachstats.com/
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    Post by deathbywarriors on Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:20 pm

    @WT2K wrote:

    I have it but mainly because I forgot to cancel it lol.

    Go here for all that stuff for free https://www.nrlsupercoachstats.com/

    I'm the same. Only realised it auto-renewed when I checked my bank account

    This is the main comp I play with my mates so I need any advantage I can get
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    Post by Teeth Eater on Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:43 pm

    @WT2K wrote:

    I have it but mainly because I forgot to cancel it lol.

    Go here for all that stuff for free https://www.nrlsupercoachstats.com/

    Cool, thanks mate. Jeez that looks like a stack of info to decipher. I actually remember stumbling across that site a couple of years ago during my first crack at fantasy.
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    Post by Hannah2 on Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:32 pm

    @Teeth Eater wrote:General question, hombres. Do you guys pay for BE's or do you just loosely make your decisions based on the BE's for Fantasy? Even if they no doubt differ.
    Milchcow was posting BEs last year on here, under heading Fantasy Resources. Not sure he's doing it again, must be a huge commitment, but it was really great. Check it out maybe next week.
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    Post by Milchcow on Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:19 pm


    I'll probably post BEs again

    Its not that much effort - the spreadsheet is already written, just need to plug the rounds data into it each week.

    Worst thing about SC is that excel keeps turning the 58th position into a date. Pisses me off like that

    Also happens when you copy data from the nrl.com match centre - minutes played is never treated as minutes:seconds but always converted into a bloody date
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    Post by Milchcow on Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:21 pm


    But speaking of supercoach, who should I pick as last reserves

    need 3 of
    Brailey, Cartwright, JWilliams, Katoa, Walters, Panehuyzen
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    Post by WT Winfield on Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:32 pm

    @Milchcow wrote:
    But speaking of supercoach, who should I pick as last reserves

    need 3 of
    Brailey, Cartwright, JWilliams, Katoa, Walters, Panehuyzen

    I'm playing Walters and Papenhuyzen. Dropped Brailey in favour of Flegler and Knight, but considering playing Katoa over one of them.. Don't have Carty or JWill but I'd put Carty last.

    Papen, Walters, Katoa, Brailey/JWill and Carty is how I'd rank them.

    Mainly dropped Brailey quickly because of Storm.. feel it'll be a slow grind.
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    Post by Teeth Eater on Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:48 pm

    @Milchcow wrote:
    But speaking of supercoach, who should I pick as last reserves

    need 3 of
    Brailey, Cartwright, JWilliams, Katoa, Walters, Panehuyzen

    Too late, but I'd have gone;

    Walters, Pap, and Brailey (to be honest, Brailey, Williams and even Katoa probably all score about the same, imo).

    Thanks in advance if you do those stats. Smile
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    Post by Hannah2 on Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:46 am

    @Milchcow wrote:
    I'll probably post BEs again

    Its not that much effort - the spreadsheet is already written, just need to plug the rounds data into it each week.

    Worst thing about SC is that excel keeps turning the 58th position into a date. Pisses me off like that

    Also happens when you copy data from the nrl.com match centre - minutes played is never treated as  minutes:seconds but always converted into a bloody date

    Maybe this, LOL, thanks for the BEs
    https://support.office.com/en-us/article/stop-automatically-changing-numbers-to-dates-452bd2db-cc96-47d1-81e4-72cec11c4ed8
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    Post by Hannah2 on Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:08 am

    Should I trade Koloamatangi for Eliesa Katoa? Kolo has dual position, but not as handy as the money Katoa will make next week, I'm guessing
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    Post by WT Winfield on Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:44 am

    I made that trade last week with limited options left, lucky break for me.

    I probably would've gone Tetevano to Katoa this week instead of Guler if I didn't already have Kat.
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    Post by Hannah2 on Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:43 pm

    @WT Winfield wrote:I made that trade last week with limited options left, lucky break for me.

    I probably would've gone Tetevano to Katoa this week instead of Guler if I didn't already have Kat.
    I worry about Guler, with Bateman coming back
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    Post by WT Winfield on Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:05 pm

    @Hannah2 wrote:
    I worry about Guler, with Bateman coming back

    My main worry with Guler is if the season shuts down next week, but hoping he can make something off the back of the 94 last game.

    NRL casualty ward saying

    "Canberra back-rower John Bateman is out of a sling as he continues his recovery from shoulder surgery. The Englishman is due back in round seven or eight.

    English forward John Bateman is not expected to play before round six or seven"

    So I'm thinking best case Rd 5 for Bateman with their healing serums.

    Tapine doesn't mind an injury though, so maybe other options open up for Guler to stick around.

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