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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 4

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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:06 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:
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    It’s ironic how painful being Payneless can be. But I just can’t see myself downgrading 2-3 other players for the sake of an extra 10 points from my captain each week when those players can more than make up the difference

    Payneless is Suicide

    Well played.
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    Post by Mulvy Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:09 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Payneless is Suicide

    I see what you did there Wink
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    Post by Pookus McFly Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:10 pm

    castlecrag sweethearts wrote:

    Any love for Jarome Hughes in the halves. Looks to be good base stats and with some good attacking stats on top could go large. Last three games of last year showed 20 tackles ish per match and a modest rise in kick meters

    Priced at 40 points I would need him to score 45+ to even consider him. I just don’t like how inconsistent his stats are, but of course you get that from a sample size of just 3. Sure 20 tackles seems good for his base, but how many run metres can I expect? 91, 53 or 21? Is the 6 TBs the more accurate reflection of his output or the 1 and the 2? I fully understand that all players have a wide range, but his price is quite high if it eventuates that he averages 40 RM and 2 TBs for a 38 average. He could be a great POD pick but for a similar price i’m picking up Croft

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    I think a lot of people share a similar feeling. I just can’t see myself sitting there and watching him tear it up as a non-owner. It’d be excruciating watching him drop big scores.

    Plus if I don’t have him, I’d have no clear set and forget captain option. He’ll solve that problem.

    If you don’t have Haas you’re already one step behind a significant portion of the competition. I haven’t heard a convincing argument against owning him from the start yet

    Edit: f@ck it, I’m getting Haas for FOMO
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:21 pm


    I was initially anti-Haas

    Main thing tempting me to change my mind

    The good captains are HOK, 2RF or Haas.
    There are plenty of good HOK/2RF value options if I don't go Cook/McInnes/Taumalolo as captain
    If I go without Haas, its likely to be Mofo/Knight or something in FRF which is a big step down - or take a punt on Fifita's fitness.

    So I may end up resorting to Haas just to give me some front row balance.
    I do like McInnes/Lolo as captaincy options as of the main choices they are the ones priced below their average
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:24 pm

    castlecrag sweethearts wrote:

    Who says Carrigan and Kaloamatangi wont start? Does not take much for them to make some quick coin while other positions go big. Much better than mid-rangers who faff about and do nothing. I'll never compete trying to do the same thing as everyone else. If something like this paid off, many would be too invested in another strategy to catch up. I have never got close to the leading pack trying to copy of everyone else.

    Who says Kaloamatangi will start?
    The same twitter guy who brought him to everyone's attention said Lowe and Su'a likely to start.

    It's more likely Carrigan may manage to nab a start over Ofahengaue (and assuming Pangai does stay on edge rotation) but I wouldn't want him without reasonable backup
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    Post by Mulvy Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:28 pm

    I hate the idea of starting with one of these midrange supposed value props, let alone two.
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:35 pm

    Mulvy wrote:I hate the idea of starting with one of these midrange supposed value props, let alone two.

    Gotta make the tough calls somewhere mate. If it's not at Prop then it's somewhere else that we are trying to find value. A lot of research and a touch of luck will determine the right call.
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    Post by Chewie Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:46 pm

    Mulvy wrote:I hate the idea of starting with one of these midrange supposed value props, let alone two.
    Yep I'm hoping the decision on the midrange/cheap prop will be easier when TLT comes around. At the moment it's pretty hazy
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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:13 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Payneless is Suicide

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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:46 pm

    Mighty Fishes wrote:
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    Payneless is Suicide

    H*A*A*S

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    Post by Pookus McFly Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:07 am

    That’s the best argument I’ve seen yet. I’m rejigging my team to fit him in
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    Post by Rabbits21 Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:36 am

    castlecrag sweethearts wrote:

    Who says Carrigan and Kaloamatangi wont start? Does not take much for them to make some quick coin while other positions go big. Much better than mid-rangers who faff about and do nothing. I'll never compete trying to do the same thing as everyone else. If something like this paid off, many would be too invested in another strategy to catch up. I have never got close to the leading pack trying to copy of everyone else.
    Koloamatangi won’t start at this stage as Lowe, Su’a and Sironen I’d say are all ahead of him!

    Best case is he plays 25mins off the bench.
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    Post by mattnz Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:46 am

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Koloamatangi won’t start at this stage as Lowe, Su’a and Sironen I’d say are all ahead of him!

    Best case is he plays 25mins off the bench.

    Especially under Bennett, has never been known for giving a forward that is new to firstgrade a big role with lots of minutes, they all start off slowly.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:18 am

    Going to repost my reasons for starting without Haas for those that have a life and might have missed the post

    The main thing comes down to Haas not being that much better than the other options that the price is worth it. The extra cash from Cook(50k), Smith(90k), McInnes(100k), Taumalolo(125k), Bateman(130k) can do wonders for a similar score

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    My main reason for starting without Haas is I see him on the same tier as the other captaincy options

    Haas, Cook, Smith, McInnes, Taumalolo and Bateman are all going to average 60+ in non injury affected games, and are all going to score 55+ most weeks which is passable for a captain. I see Taumalolo with the highest ceiling(most damaging runner) and Smith with the highest floor(80 minute every week and touches the ball more than any player in the comp). You can basically pick any one of these guys as your captain and you are going to have a similar outcome over a 25 week season.

    The difference from last season is Haas didn't have his "floor" game like everyone else - Cook 29 backing up from Origin(average 64 without that game), McInnes injury affected 9(average 65 without that game), Taumalolo injury affect 17(average 64 without that game), Bateman injury affected 20(average 62 without that game), Smith 42 in one of his worst career games 7 missed tackles and a penalty(average 63 without that game)

    Personally I'm going with the guys that I like watching the most. At this stage that is just Cook however would also want to squeeze Bateman/Taumalolo in

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    Post by VERTiiGO Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:43 am

    Bird playing fullback make him more interesting to people?
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    Post by mattnz Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:50 am

    VERTiiGO wrote:Bird playing fullback make him more interesting to people?

    Not really, would mean Isaako wouldn't be near my team though. Are you hearing he is the favourite for that position?
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    Post by Mulvy Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:55 am

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:Going to repost my reasons for starting without Haas for those that have a life and might have missed the post

    The main thing comes down to Haas not being that much better than the other options that the price is worth it. The extra cash from Cook(50k), Smith(90k), McInnes(100k), Taumalolo(125k), Bateman(130k) can do wonders for a similar score



    I agree with all that, and really didn't want Haas in the first place, but I'm gonna need trials to fill me some confidence these mid range props are a viable option eg. Merrin starting a playing a substantial role in the Charity shield, Mofo back to fitness etc
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    Post by Camo123 Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:58 am

    VERTiiGO wrote:Bird playing fullback make him more interesting to people?

    I think the trial is the same day as the 9s so I don’t think you can make too much of the makeup of the squad of each one. 9s squad is probably just using players that are more suited to that format
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    Post by my tv broke Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:04 am

    Isaako is at the 9s. Someone has to play fb in the trial. Its meaningless, but Bird could put pressure on Isaako...but Bird is straight off an ACL id be really surprised if they put him straight into a fb gig

    Siebold quoted yesterday saying Bird has done a bit of fullback training and they are building depth across positions. He said he will only play about 20 mins
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    Post by my tv broke Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:07 am

    Mulvy wrote:

    I agree with all that, and really didn't want Haas in the first place, but I'm gonna need trials to fill me some confidence these mid range props are a viable option eg. Merrin starting a playing a substantial role in the Charity shield, Mofo back to fitness etc

    Im having enough trouble finding one prop that I like, let alone two.

    Its tempting to go for Taupau tbh

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