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    Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by leaguegod on Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:26 am

    Ice wrote:

    Agreed

    yeah they can't move gutherson out to centre/wing when norman return, has to stay in a key position


    moses is always gonna be poor defensively, thats never gonna change, eels have to make sure the guy on his inside and outside limit the damage and moses needs to make sure what he does with the ball makes up for it. time will tell

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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Oz Sport Mad on Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:08 am

    Pieman wrote:Surely the team is better with Gutherson at fullback and french on the wing????

    I'd put Moses back to FB before Gutherson.

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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by leaguegod on Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:16 am

    i thought about that too OSM but i would worry about having french and moses in the back 3 for kick returns/early set runs. semi can't be the only one helping out early in the set

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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Oz Sport Mad on Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:25 am

    leaguegod wrote:i thought about that too OSM but i would worry about having french and moses in the back 3 for kick returns/early set runs. semi can't be the only one helping out early in the set

    It's a fair point but they do have fairly active centre's in that area with Auva'a and Taka doing a fair bit of work.

    They also have a fairly mobile backrow and bench, who seem to make it back and assist for tackles 2/3/4


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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Oz Sport Mad on Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:28 am

    While we are talking about the Eels and given that fuck-knuckle CJ doesn't grace this forum, I'm happy to admit that I am thoroughly enjoying watching them play - particularly that game last weekend, geez it was gutsy and entertaining at the same time.

    Outside of Bennett, I rate Brad Arthur so highly and see him on the same sort of rung as Bellamy and Hasler.

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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Dip on Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:45 am

    There are missed tackles, and there are missed tackles. Matt Gillett for example is 7th in missed tackles this year, but that is because he tries to come out of the line at the right time and smash players in a momentum changing tackle. Often the attacker either bounces off him or puts on a step, but in either case gets cleaned up by the defensive line a metre later. Same with Lockyer. He was never a great one on one front on defender, so he used to position himself in such a way that he didn't often have to make one on one tackles, and the attackers were instead "herded" to the inside defender, who would be someone like Tonie Carroll (and it does rely on having the right style defender inside you). In a 400 game career, he didn't really miss that many tackles that lead to line breaks or tries.

    Mitchell Moses is not one of those guys, he just badly misses tackles. Over time you can improve your defence (like Jarrod Crocker or Corey Norman have), so he either needs to do this in a hurry, or do what Lockyer did, and get himself in the right position, and have a guy like Ma'u as his protector. Or become a guy like JT, who isn't the best defender in the world (although not as bad as many would have you believe), but be good enough in attack and organisation to be worth 2 tries more a game to your team.
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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Pieman on Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:15 pm

    Oz Sport Mad wrote:

    I'd put Moses back to FB before Gutherson.

    And that is a perfect example of why you are an utter bumbling simpleton

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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Ice on Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:30 pm

    Oz Sport Mad wrote:While we are talking about the Eels and given that fuck-knuckle CJ doesn't grace this forum, I'm happy to admit that I am thoroughly enjoying watching them play - particularly that game last weekend, geez it was gutsy and entertaining at the same time.

    Outside of Bennett, I rate Brad Arthur so highly and see him on the same sort of rung as Bellamy and Hasler.

    That's very nice of you to say Oz. Given the pasting Arthur was getting early, it really is amazing what he has done with the squad he has had and has and you are right, that win against NZ was massive given the outs already AND the ones sustained during the game. We aren't contenders, but at least we are competitors, and Arthur has much to do with it.

    No team has the injuries we do at the moment and we are still competing.

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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Ice on Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:33 pm

    Dip wrote:There are missed tackles, and there are missed tackles. Matt Gillett for example is 7th in missed tackles this year, but that is because he tries to come out of the line at the right time and smash players in a momentum changing tackle. Often the attacker either bounces off him or puts on a step, but in either case gets cleaned up by the defensive line a metre later. Same with Lockyer. He was never a great one on one front on defender, so he used to position himself in such a way that he didn't often have to make one on one tackles, and the attackers were instead "herded" to the inside defender, who would be someone like Tonie Carroll (and it does rely on having the right style defender inside you). In a 400 game career, he didn't really miss that many tackles that lead to line breaks or tries.

    Mitchell Moses is not one of those guys, he just badly misses tackles. Over time you can improve your defence (like Jarrod Crocker or Corey Norman have), so he either needs to do this in a hurry, or do what Lockyer did, and get himself in the right position, and have a guy like Ma'u as his protector. Or become a guy like JT, who isn't the best defender in the world (although not as bad as many would have you believe), but be good enough in attack and organisation to be worth 2 tries more a game to your team.

    Relatively fair point, if not nigh on impossible to disprove, but sound enough. #illallowit
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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Pieman on Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:52 pm

    This might sound bad but I am kind of happy that Pritchard is out for the season. Its going to work out for his own good IMO. The guy goes off every match for a HIA and half the time doesn't pass. It appears he has had a few concussions this year already - having the rest of the season off might be good for him in the long term.

    I reckon he would have had the most HIA this season. The guy needs to change his tackling style or he is going to have a very short career IMO.
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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Pieman on Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:54 pm

    Scott out for the season with a busted bicep too
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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Pieman on Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:55 pm

    Oz Sport Mad wrote:

    I'd put Moses back to FB before Gutherson.
    Still?

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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Ice on Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:05 pm

    What's this talk of Lichaa to Eels possible after requesting immediate release??

    No thanks, give Cameron king a crack, I like him. Lichaas service from DH is dreadful, he thinks he is the teams cheif playmaker.
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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by No Worries on Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:57 am

    Sad news for a true legend of the game. Brett Kenny diagnosed with cancer. Shit disease, all the best goes out to Brett and his family.


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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Pieman on Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:12 am

    Oz Sport Mad wrote:

    I'd put Moses back to FB before Gutherson.

    Shocked

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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Oz Sport Mad on Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:57 am

    Pieman wrote:

    Shocked

    Obviously haven't been back to this thread for some time and given you seem to be like a dog with a bone regarding that comment, I might as well attempt to educate you..........once again Rolling Eyes

    The point I made wasn't at all a dig at Gutherson.
    I rate the bloke very highly and it was in fact a comment saying that the Eels would be better off leaving in place what was a highly effective halves pairing at the time, as opposed to introducing a new halves pairing and a new fullback at the same time and midway through the season.

    It has been no surprise to me that Gutherson has adapted well to the FB role.
    Whether Parra would have been better off with Gutho at half or FB will never be known.

    Although one thing is for sure and that is if he was playing half and not FB he would have been putting someone through that gap, rather than backing up and thus he wouldn't have done his ACL......

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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Ice on Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:33 pm

    Good win without our first choice 9 and our best player so far this year. Moses starting to work out nice
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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Pieman on Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:12 pm

    Oz Sport Mad wrote:
    lol!

    Too fucking funny

    Moses at fullback over Gutherson

    Gut busting laugh there

    Was a great win. They showed some real cunt in that game the Eels.
    Kenny edwards is so good to watch play. Fuck me dead he is a goose, every single game he does something that is utterly hilarious.
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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by dasherhalo on Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:29 pm

    Pieman wrote:This might sound bad but I am kind of happy that Pritchard is out for the season. Its going to work out for his own good IMO. The guy goes off every match for a HIA and half the time doesn't pass. It appears he has had a few concussions this year already - having the rest of the season off might be good for him in the long term.

    I reckon he would have had the most HIA this season. The guy needs to change his tackling style or he is going to have a very short career IMO.

    Named in the 21.....
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    Re: Official Parramatta Eels on the Up 2017 (cause we couldn't get any lower) Thread

    Post by Pieman on Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:29 pm

    they had their chance to put Moses in fullback tonight Ozzy. Didnt do it

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