HomeI want to grab Young for the extra coin and Rd12 but I am a bit questionable on his role, minutes and Ricky wanting to rotate his young forwards plus Tapine possibly back early.
NRL Fantasy 2019 Part 45
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L-Jimmy wrote:Huh. Gurgess is under 300k. That's cheap for a starting R12 FRF. He's come off the bench for the last few games, and still has a BE of 33.
If he gets decent minutes this weekend he'll be worth thinking about as an almost-cashout who's good for an emergency 35 points.
If he was really "good for an emergency 35 points" he wouldn't be valued under $300k.
He has only hit 30 once this year. There's a reason he's priced so low.
Unless he starts getting more than 25mins off the bench, I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.
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When talking about bye players vs non-bye players generally the consensus is to take the points.
You'd pick a 55 point player who doesn't play byes over a 50 point player who doesn't if he'll be in your team for 10 weeks or more.
Picking a bunch of 50 point players who do play the byes and trading them out after they've played would make sense, except for the fact that you'd run out of trades pretty quickly, so its a balancing act of working out how many trades you can spend getting bye players in. Plus also getting in any 55 point non-origin players that you can (eg Taupau, ARey)
But with Turpin/Dearden/Young the situation is a bit different. None of them are likely to be in your scoring 17 barring injury (maybe Turpin if he gets 80 minutes and his scoring kicks on)
Turpin will likely be a trade out before the 2nd bye, so potentially will never score you points and only make money (unless he really kicks on and becomes playable in your 17, or you get injuries that force it)
Dearden might stick around until round 16 and score then, I think probably won't be in your 17 otherwise unless there are injuries
Young will score in round 12 (assuming he plays) and probably a trade out by round 16 or whenever Bateman comes back. If he can get 30-40 points extra for you that can make a difference (if you gave me an extra 40 points right now I'd jump over 350 rankings) Downside is he's probably also got the worst job security out of the lot. Until Bateman's injury he was just a 15 minute bench player so you are relying on him keeping the starting spot over the likes of Soliola, Papalii, Guler (all guys who can play middle or edge forwards) plus LBateman when he returns. Worst case is he doesn't get many games as starter and makes small cash gains and gives you no worthwhile R12 score. Turpin and Dearden seem to have more guaranteed starting spots and scores (short term at least) with the downside being they don't play 12. If you trust Young to keep starting for a month, he is probably worth it though.
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Gurgess only played 14 minutes I think last week from memory. I believe Souths trying to offload him.
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filthridden wrote:
If he was really "good for an emergency 35 points" he wouldn't be valued under $300k.
He has only hit 30 once this year. There's a reason he's priced so low.
Unless he starts getting more than 25mins off the bench, I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.
I agree. But he's starting this week, for the first time this year. If that continues his minutes will move from 25 towards 45, and score accordingly. Tatola never felt like a season-long starter, neither Knight. I'm not buying old Gurgy, but I'll monitor.
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L-Jimmy wrote:
I agree. But he's starting this week, for the first time this year. If that continues his minutes will move from 25 towards 45, and score accordingly. Tatola never felt like a season-long starter, neither Knight. I'm not buying old Gurgy, but I'll monitor.
He's been named to start. I will believe he's starting when he's named an hour before kick off.
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Ozymandias wrote:@Chewie
I saw this and thought of you ....
https://twitter.com/AstroHague/status/1126228993395646464
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https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/05/09/seibold-reveals-why-he-backed-dearden-over-nikorima/
Good Article this one
"I see our long-term half as being Tom Dearden and I have given him an opportunity. You make decisions and some you get right and some you don’t. You’ve got to live with it."
In the article it pretty much says Dearden is Seibolds long term half-back and has the spot all year. No chance of Isaako or Roberts being late ins. Roberts dropped due to form. Also said Pangai will stay bench.
Good Article this one
"I see our long-term half as being Tom Dearden and I have given him an opportunity. You make decisions and some you get right and some you don’t. You’ve got to live with it."
In the article it pretty much says Dearden is Seibolds long term half-back and has the spot all year. No chance of Isaako or Roberts being late ins. Roberts dropped due to form. Also said Pangai will stay bench.
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Looks like this year a solid final team would be valued around $15m
E.g. :
HOK 900 Cook
FRF 850 Fifita
FRF 800 Haas
2RF 750 Murray
2RF 750 Arrow
2RF 750 Jturbo
HLF 900 DCE
HLF 750 Munster
CTR 800 Bateman
CTR 750 Nikora
WFB 750 Ponga
WFB 750 Tedesco
WFB 750 RTS
INT 850 Smith
INT 850 Farah
INT 800 Taupau
INT 750 Arey
18th 750 Tturbo
19th 600 Burns
20th 212 Red Dot
21st 212 Red Dot
15274
That means I need to earn another $2m!
That's persuaded me to pass on A-Rey for now and double cow.
E.g. :
HOK 900 Cook
FRF 850 Fifita
FRF 800 Haas
2RF 750 Murray
2RF 750 Arrow
2RF 750 Jturbo
HLF 900 DCE
HLF 750 Munster
CTR 800 Bateman
CTR 750 Nikora
WFB 750 Ponga
WFB 750 Tedesco
WFB 750 RTS
INT 850 Smith
INT 850 Farah
INT 800 Taupau
INT 750 Arey
18th 750 Tturbo
19th 600 Burns
20th 212 Red Dot
21st 212 Red Dot
15274
That means I need to earn another $2m!
That's persuaded me to pass on A-Rey for now and double cow.
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filthridden wrote:
He's been named to start. I will believe he's starting when he's named an hour before kick off.
Rumour has it that Gurgess is only named in the 8 every week because its the only jersey that fits him.
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awanamafia wrote:Looks like this year a solid final team would be valued around $15m
E.g. :
HOK 900 Cook
FRF 850 Fifita
FRF 800 Haas
2RF 750 Murray
2RF 750 Arrow
2RF 750 Jturbo
HLF 900 DCE
HLF 750 Munster
CTR 800 Bateman
CTR 750 Nikora
WFB 750 Ponga
WFB 750 Tedesco
WFB 750 RTS
INT 850 Smith
INT 850 Farah
INT 800 Taupau
INT 750 Arey
18th 750 Tturbo
19th 600 Burns
20th 212 Red Dot
21st 212 Red Dot
15274
That means I need to earn another $2m!
That's persuaded me to pass on A-Rey for now and double cow.
Wouldn't like 1 million be wiped off instantly if you value Nikora and Haas as keepers, then you wouldn't trade them out with most people buying Nikora at 212k and Haas under 300k
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Camo123 wrote:
Wouldn't like 1 million be wiped off instantly if you value Nikora and Haas as keepers, then you wouldn't trade them out with most people buying Nikora at 212k and Haas under 300k
Plus most have already got Teddy, Ponga, Murray, Arrow at an undervalued price so you are saving money there and don't necessarily need to gain 2 mil. By the end of the year the team may be worth that much but the point of the game is to get all those players cheaper than what they will end up.
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awanamafia wrote:Looks like this year a solid final team would be valued around $15m
E.g. :
HOK 900 Cook
FRF 850 Fifita
FRF 800 Haas
2RF 750 Murray
2RF 750 Arrow
2RF 750 Jturbo
HLF 900 DCE
HLF 750 Munster
CTR 800 Bateman
CTR 750 Nikora
WFB 750 Ponga
WFB 750 Tedesco
WFB 750 RTS
INT 850 Smith
INT 850 Farah
INT 800 Taupau
INT 750 Arey
18th 750 Tturbo
19th 600 Burns
20th 212 Red Dot
21st 212 Red Dot
15274
That means I need to earn another $2m!
That's persuaded me to pass on A-Rey for now and double cow.
Hmm.. how does buying Nikora for 212k fits into this calculation?
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Yep, I’m going the dual moo as well. Might even skip Guns next week as well so hopefully in a fortnight’s time he Origin picture is a lot clearer.awanamafia wrote:Looks like this year a solid final team would be valued around $15m
E.g. :
HOK 900 Cook
FRF 850 Fifita
FRF 800 Haas
2RF 750 Murray
2RF 750 Arrow
2RF 750 Jturbo
HLF 900 DCE
HLF 750 Munster
CTR 800 Bateman
CTR 750 Nikora
WFB 750 Ponga
WFB 750 Tedesco
WFB 750 RTS
INT 850 Smith
INT 850 Farah
INT 800 Taupau
INT 750 Arey
18th 750 Tturbo
19th 600 Burns
20th 212 Red Dot
21st 212 Red Dot
15274
That means I need to earn another $2m!
That's persuaded me to pass on A-Rey for now and double cow.
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Hess starting temporary only ?
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sajjos wrote:
Hmm.. how does buying Nikora for 212k fits into this calculation?
The way I do it is I list all my current players, project their values out and then subtract that away from the total $ figure the final team is going to cost. That gives you the amount of money you still need to generate to get to that final squad.
E.g. Final squad = $15m current squad's projected value = $13m therefore still currently need to generate $2m
In the above way of doing it, you dont need to worry about what Nikorima initially cost you.
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Khany wrote:Hess starting temporary only ?
Guessing he probably goes back to bench when McGuire is back? Could be a nice little pick up if he fires AND misses Orgin. Could get your self a nice money making top 17 scorer through the first bye round. A lot of money for the risk though.
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WT2K wrote:Anyone trading in Sele - reverse trade
Panthers Waqa Blake has been omitted after misreading the schedule and being late for training, while Hame Sele has been withdrawn with a minor back complaint - wacko
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Camo123 wrote:
Wouldn't like 1 million be wiped off instantly if you value Nikora and Haas as keepers, then you wouldn't trade them out with most people buying Nikora at 212k and Haas under 300k
Depends how you run your numbers.... see above. I think its easier to start with how much a final squad is valued at and work backwards. The key to Nikora and Haas becomes, not what you purchased them at, but what you value them at.
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Running tturbo at 18th man is a one way ticket to a straight jacket. No one wants a player like that playing not in their 17. No doubt will score 100 every week u don’t playnhim