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    2018 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 18

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    Post by RandomSil Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:18 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    Katoa - JMK
    Katoa - Robinson
    Or keep Katoa for loop.

    Last week loop gained me 14 points, by getting me Hiku over Thompson. This week I'd loop Kikau

    Personally I am waiting and seeing on JMK and Robinson. I would rather focus on bringing in someone I know will make cash. Getting a look at these guys first reduces the chances of bringing in a dud and forcing another trade on them early.

    That and want to see how well you roll with the loophole, and Kikau is the perfect style of player to loophole on.
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    Post by White Lightning Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:19 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    Katoa - JMK
    Katoa - Robinson
    Or keep Katoa for loop.

    Last week loop gained me 14 points, by getting me Hiku over Thompson. This week I'd loop Kikau

    If it ain't broke then why fix it. I not sure on either of JMK or RR & maybe use this week to see how they go. Your looping was successful last round so keep on going with it.
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:20 am

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    Yeah but there's a long game and a short game right?

    To get the points, you gotta generate the cash. Im not saying I like the Cook/Lichaa combo, but I think the premise of trading for cash early at the expense of points in order to maximise points long term has merit.

    You dont earn interest on cash ITB though. So long as its sitting there, youre not making any money.

    Some cash ITB is fine but a large quantity seems unnecessarily foregoing points. The players that make bulk cash cost nothing anyway, the whole game is picking the right ones
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    Post by Krump Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:22 am

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    Yeah but there's a long game and a short game right?

    To get the points, you gotta generate the cash. Im not saying I like the Cook/Lichaa combo, but I think the premise of trading for cash early at the expense of points in order to maximise points long term has merit.
    It's a balancing act. Picking up an extra 10 points per week now is worth more over the season than 20 points per week if you build a bank and wait until after origin. Thats a bit extreme but the point is valid.
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:25 am

    White Lightning wrote:

    He's on my sell list. But not sure whether I should pull the trigger yet... I just don't see him being involved in attack. Usually, it's a Hunt-Widdop play.
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:29 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    Katoa - JMK
    Katoa - Robinson
    Or keep Katoa for loop.

    Last week loop gained me 14 points, by getting me Hiku over Thompson. This week I'd loop Kikau

    How on earth did these guys develop a new platform where most people will be able to loop every week....
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    Post by Loomer Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:29 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    Katoa - JMK
    Katoa - Robinson
    Or keep Katoa for loop.

    Last week loop gained me 14 points, by getting me Hiku over Thompson. This week I'd loop Kikau

    Katoa loop 26pts for me last week and definitely doing Kikau loop.

    I've done Croft>Doueihi and seriously considering Mitchell>Thompson again atter looking at last season stats. 3 games gk at CTR 31 50 56 and the latter 2 included tries. This season feels like building early cash more important than ever before
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    Post by Loomer Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:32 am

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    How on earth did these guys develop a new platform where most people will be able to loop every week....

    Do you really want to get rid of rolling lockout and be like EPL because it sucks

    Loopholing can easily backfire if you don't take say 26 and alternative scores 10
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:35 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    You dont earn interest on cash ITB though. So long as its sitting there, youre not making any money.

    Some cash ITB is fine but a large quantity seems unnecessarily foregoing points. The players that make bulk cash cost nothing anyway, the whole game is picking the right ones

    Of course, but typically at this early stage, the guys that are gonna make the most cash are the cheap ones. Therefore if you are fixing mistakes (Aubs for example) and trading for cash, you are likely to be increasing your bank balance to optimise your future team value.

    I agree with what you are both saying in the medium/long term. But in these early weeks, Im fine with a decent amount of $ ITB if the trades are sensible and the goal is to make $.

    For example I'm helping with a team in the dream team comp. It's going very well. Money over there is roughly equivalent to here. We had >$400k ITB last round, and came close to scoring the most points in the comp for that round. This week we made two trades and still have about the same amount of money ITB. With all that said, next week most of the money will be spent to maximise points. My point is, while it's a balancing act, but ultimately you will not win either comp if you don't make $ early.
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:38 am

    Loomer wrote:

    Do you really want to get rid of rolling lockout and be like EPL because it sucks

    Loopholing can easily backfire if you don't take say 26 and alternative scores 10

    The two are not mutually exclusive.... You can have a rolling lockout AND at make it impossible to loophole!

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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:38 am

    What is the Kikau loop this week?
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:40 am

    Loomer wrote:

    Do you really want to get rid of rolling lockout and be like EPL because it sucks

    Loopholing can easily backfire if you don't take say 26 and alternative scores 10

    Honestly, yes I would like to get rid of rolling lockout. With ranked subs there is no need for it. Looping is fun and all, but I'd rather not have to worry about it.
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:42 am

    Rippin and Tearin wrote:

    The two are not mutually exclusive.... You can have a rolling lockout AND at make it impossible to loophole!


    I havent thought about it properly but implementing this would be quite difficult and probably create other dramas.

    Eg if katoa is your 4th reserve and plays first, how do you stop someone moving 3rd and 5th reserve around during roling lockout.

    Edit: obviouslt getting rid of rolling lockout fixes the problem but thats really the only way


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    Post by Loomer Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:42 am

    StormTrooper96 wrote:What is the Kikau loop this week?

    Katoa 17
    Kikau 18

    If Kikau spuds swap 19-21 with Katoa
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    Post by No Worries Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:42 am

    Loomer wrote:

    Do you really want to get rid of rolling lockout and be like EPL because it sucks

    Loopholing can easily backfire if you don't take say 26 and alternative scores 10

    Yeah I do want a hard lock at the start of the first game. I set and forget my team, I don't watch for late mail or team changes. I have a family and a life and the prizes sure as hell aren't worth the time needed to invest in loopholes etc. I often wonder how I would be travelling position wise if this was the rule. May be run 2 comps with different lock outs ???
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    Post by filthridden Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:43 am

    so SI my mate, what are you doing for your birthday this Saturday? Very Happy
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:44 am

    Now we have ranked subs I would also prefer a hard lockout when round begins. Saves having to worry about final team lists etc. Of course, I dont"t HAVE to worry, but since others are, it forces me to.

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    Post by lewis9966 Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:47 am

    i was going croft to DCE this week but would prefer to go croft to SJ but dont quite have the funds

    any merit in holding croft a week and downgrading my worst cow to go to SJ next week??
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:47 am

    Loomer wrote:

    Katoa 17
    Kikau 18

    If Kikau spuds swap 19-21 with Katoa

    Okay I see I see. I get it now. I have Kennar, Havili, Croker in my 19-21 so might loop Kennar if Kikau peforms poorly.
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    Post by Pookus McFly Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:49 am

    The biggest irony is that Milch has always been the strongest proponent of ranked subs so that he didn't need to be micro-managing his team all through the week, watching out for updated team lists and changes. And now he has become the posterboy for looping, instead micro-managing his team through the week to see what one player scores compared to other possibilities.

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