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    2018 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 2

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    Post by White Lightning Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:31 pm

    The Broncos back line in round 1 could see a couple of cheapies lining up. J. Bird likely to be out re his shoulder rehabilitation, Oates may move to the forwards & Boyd has dodgy hamstrings.
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    Post by Alfie Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:38 pm

    White Lightning wrote:The Broncos back line in round 1 could see a couple of cheapies lining up. J. Bird likely to be out re his shoulder rehabilitation, Oates may move to the forwards & Boyd has dodgy hamstrings.

    There is definitely some potential there. Who are you thinking could benefit in particular?
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    Post by Alfie Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:42 pm

    I'm thinking Opacic could be worth starting with Milne on the bench and possibly Isaako who has ctr/wfb dpp
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    Post by White Lightning Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:55 pm

    Alfie wrote:

    There is definitely some potential there. Who are you thinking could benefit in particular?
    These are just maybe's but:
    Opacic replace Bird
    Isaako/Pearson replace Oates
    Isaako can also play fb so could replace Boyd
    Isaako can also play ctr

    As you say Isaako is a dpp so I hope he's 1st cab off the rank.

    I honestly can't see Oates being successful in the 2nd row as he's too soft/easily injured
    Bird will only be out short term
    The Boyd situation is interesting. He did his hammy at training & has a history of jammy hamstrings.
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    Post by TheWeapon Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:59 pm

    Just put a supercoach team together for shits and giggles. It's like every player gets the salary cap of the roosters. So easy to build a team.... never really played the game much though. I'm a virtualsports and NRL fantasy guy
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    Post by SoylentGreen Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:06 pm

    Happy 2018 everyone!

    Probably time to start thinking about my team I guess - work's getting in the way though.

    Anyone want to give me an idea of the must-haves at this stage (I've picked up the general gist of the new format - just want to get up to speed on who everyone's talking about as key buys this year)
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    Post by Warriors Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:20 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:I suppose the "will Smith get rested?" question depends on whether you think Melbourne will stroll to the top two again, in which case he probably will. That's a judgement call... I think they likely will (along with Roosters) but others may differ. Also Brandon Smith looks a really, really good prospect so might see time off the bench, or played with Cameron moving to a half role (and less tackles).

    These things probably won't happen, but there's more uncertainty over CS9s exact role than usual, and at top dollar there might be better options to start the season when - compared to previous years - you need a far greater proportion of your squad to make money (as opposed to just points) from the off if you're going to be able to afford the best final 17.

    What I suppose I'm saying is that the most important selections for the first round (other than complete golden base-price cows) are going to be the 500-600k players who are going to average 50 and rise to 750-800k. If not having Smith means you can get two more of those then it's maybe, *maybe* worth not starting with Smith.

    This is what I was getting at in terms of not having Smith, at least to start with. This year you can have any number of hookers in your squad so it is not as risky not having Smith as year's gone by because you have more cover if need be. Also, it appears as though as long as you have the starting 13 positions covered you will be able to use any of your remaining 8 players to trade to get Smith in, whilst not having to sell at least one hooker to do so like in previous years. The only problem I see with not having Smith to start with is who to captain
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    Post by Alfie Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:34 pm

    I'm thinking one of Frizell or Sims will play 80. It's likely to be Friz so if he does play 80, do people think he would be a good buy. He's priced at 44-45 and he averaged 53.57 from 7 games playing 80 with a low score of 37 against the Storm.
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:37 pm

    SoylentGreen wrote:Happy 2018 everyone!

    Probably time to start thinking about my team I guess - work's getting in the way though.

    Anyone want to give me an idea of the must-haves at this stage (I've picked up the general gist of the new format - just want to get up to speed on who everyone's talking about as key buys this year)

    Hard to say must haves at this point as we are making some asumptions around team selections.

    Taane Milne is in your team assuming he nails down a centres spot at the Tigers.

    Whover replaces Blake Green at Manly will also be in your team (unless its Curtis Sironen, but Lachlan Croker is who we are hoping for)

    1 or all of Craig Garvey, Damien Cook and Michael Lichaa could be very valuable dependant on bench hooker situation.

    Jai Arrow and Cameron Murray, if they get their starting lock position as some are thinking/hoping, will be undervalued.

    If Bryce Cartwright gets any sort of meaningful role he'll be good value too.

    If Matt Lodge avoids suspension betwen now and round 1, and you can stomach having him in your team, he'll be pretty good value too.

    No doubt I have left people out.
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    Post by TheWeapon Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:39 pm

    Warriors wrote:

    This is what I was getting at in terms of not having Smith, at least to start with. This year you can have any number of hookers in your squad so it is not as risky not having Smith as year's gone by because you have more cover if need be. Also, it appears as though as long as you have the starting 13 positions covered you will be able to use any of your remaining 8 players to trade to get Smith in, whilst not having to sell at least one hooker to do so like in previous years. The only problem I see with not having Smith to start with is who to captain

    This is actually the first season I'm almost 100% on Smith. I think he's a grub of a player and I've never liked him...but surely this year is more of the same, except his kick meters go up to take pressure off Croft?
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:46 pm


    I'm also confident Smith will be in my team. If you don't have him, who will you captain?

    I think I'll be playing 3-4 hookers this year.

    Smith looks to still be the most reliable captain. Garvey might be too cheap to resist. And then monitor other teams for value

    Smith may get traded out and in again around origin, have to go for gut feel on if he'll get other rests or not.
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    Post by Alfie Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:47 pm

    TheWeapon wrote:

    This is actually the first season I'm almost 100% on Smith. I think he's a grub of a player and I've never liked him...but surely this year is more of the same, except his kick meters go up to take pressure off Croft?

    I absolutely can't stand him either. He gets away with slowing the ruck down every time and referees never police him cause he's the Queensland and AUS captain
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    Post by Alfie Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:23 pm

    According to Wacko, "Titans could have a new left edge in 2018 with Elgey, James, B.Lee (left centre) and Copley (left wing) completing opposed session Today"
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    Post by TheWeapon Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:27 pm

    James will be one of my first picked. I think he'll bounce back this year
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    Post by Pookus McFly Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:35 pm

    Alfie wrote:I'm thinking one of Frizell or Sims will play 80. It's likely to be Friz so if he does play 80, do people think he would be a good buy. He's priced at 44-45 and he averaged 53.57 from 7 games playing 80 with a low score of 37 against the Storm.

    That's a hard one, because whilst you're right about him averaging ~54 from 80 min games in 2017, his average for 80 minute games in 2016 (5 games) was only 44. You could expand the range this year to include all games >75 minutes (10 games) but it still only averages 47, which is a long way short of a lofty 54. Anybody with a mancrush on the big fella know about any hampering injuries in 2016 that would give this discrepancy?
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    Post by Mulvy Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:43 pm

    Warriors wrote:

    I think we could actually have 9 hookers in you squad this year if you really wanted. My thinking was if Lichaa and Cook look like getting 80 then you could have Cook, Lichaa and Garvey/Havilli to start. Then after 5 or 6 rounds bring Smith in for Lichaa and Garvey once they have peaked. Just a thought. However, would be gambling on a guy like Nathan Brown or someone like Teddy for captain. Like the thought of Teddy captain actually.

    I've been putting a lot of thought into this. I think Smith will average much the same as the 63 he is priced at. If you have a couple of guys that can average say 58 (eg Brown perhaps) to captain, and if you spend the $917,000 on undervalued guys that outscore their priced average, you can easily cover the five captain's points that you miss out on and make cash in the meantime. My main question would be, is Smith a trade out over origin and would you really bring him in in round six, only to trade out again in round 13?
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    Post by Alfie Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:21 pm

    Pookus McFly wrote:

    That's a hard one, because whilst you're right about him averaging ~54 from 80 min games in 2017, his average for 80 minute games in 2016 (5 games) was only 44. You could expand the range this year to include all games >75 minutes (10 games) but it still only averages 47, which is a long way short of a lofty 54. Anybody with a mancrush on the big fella know about any hampering injuries in 2016 that would give this discrepancy?

    Thanks for that, I think I was a bit overkeen on him after a bit of research. He's back in the maybe column where he belongs for me. I wonder if Welshy will be able to resist.
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    Post by Alfie Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:56 pm

    TheWeapon wrote:James will be one of my first picked. I think he'll bounce back this year

    I don't know if you played fantasy in 2015 but James played edge back row then like he will now and he was terrible fantasy-wise. That's why he was such a breakout player in 2017 cos he started below 400k
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    Post by code delta Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:36 pm

    Warriors wrote:

    I think we could actually have 9 hookers in you squad this year if you really wanted.
    Nope, that doesn't work.
    Fullback is a late withdrawal and you don't have a fullback on your bench then you are one player down as a hooker can't replace a fullback in your starting 13.

    " .... but remember you'll want at least one player covering every position in your starting side. If one of your starting centres is a late withdrawal and you have no back-up centres in your squad, you'll be a man short that week."

    That quote comes from here .... https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/01/12/the-change-that-revolutionises-nrl-fantasy/

    Trading a late withdrawal in a position you don't have a reserve for might work. It means keeping up to date before each game and potentially wasting trades.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:39 pm

    GreenMachine wrote:Thanks for the profiles Welshman. Really good stuff mate and making the pre season bearable!

    Cheers mate

    good to have you back big fella!!

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