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    NRL Fantasy 2024 Part 2 - We've all been waiting for Weekes

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    Post by Mulvy Tue Jan 30, 2024 11:44 pm

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    Talau should never be an option for any form of nrl fantasy imo

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    Post by mickspicks Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:19 am

    Any love for an increased role for Leota this year? Most likely value elsewhere but I keep finding him in my 17. He's not ideal, but with the Pamfa stocks being re-arranged and Leinu off to the chooks, you'd think his seniority + experience = additional minutes?
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:33 am

    mickspicks wrote:Any love for an increased role for Leota this year? Most likely value elsewhere but I keep finding him in my 17. He's not ideal, but with the Pamfa stocks being re-arranged and Leinu off to the chooks, you'd think his seniority + experience = additional minutes?

    He and JFH do their jobs so we'll it doesn't really make much sense to change them?
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    Post by mattnz Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:58 am

    mickspicks wrote:Any love for an increased role for Leota this year? Most likely value elsewhere but I keep finding him in my 17. He's not ideal, but with the Pamfa stocks being re-arranged and Leinu off to the chooks, you'd think his seniority + experience = additional minutes?

    Henry is the guy in the Panthers pack of interest to me. Cheap, high PPM, going to be the next Hopgood.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:21 am

    mattnz wrote:

    Henry is the guy in the Panthers pack of interest to me. Cheap, high PPM, going to be the next Hopgood.

    As in a Panthers forward who has to move somewhere else because he can't get in the side?
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    Post by Bethany_B Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:52 am

    mattnz wrote:

    Henry is the guy in the Panthers pack of interest to me. Cheap, high PPM, going to be the next Hopgood.

    Don't get ahead of yourself, Henry looks a like a good player but I can't imagine he'll be particularly relevant in fantasy terms in that Penrith pack.

    Even legendary PPM god Leniu couldn't do that.
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    Post by mattnz Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:03 am

    Bethany_B wrote:

    Don't get ahead of yourself, Henry looks a like a good player but I can't imagine he'll be particularly relevant in fantasy terms in that Penrith pack.

    Even legendary PPM god Leniu couldn't do that.

    Henry is like Smith and Hopgood, averages 60+ in NSW cup. If he gets the Leniu minutes, he makes a lot of cash.
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    Post by easytiger Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:17 am

    mattnz wrote:

    Henry is like Smith and Hopgood, averages 60+ in NSW cup. If he gets the Leniu minutes, he makes a lot of cash.

    Would that be Leniu minutes in his rookie year where he averaged 23 minutes, or Leniu minutes in his second year where he had a consistent role, played a lot more games for a 20 minute average?

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    Post by Camo123 Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:22 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    How come it counts for Wighton? Typical bunny stitch-up

    Confirmed by Canberra Times exemption was unsuccessful (apologies for doubting you Rabs)

    Judiciary chair said in his opinion Wighton was more certain to play All Stars so was successful but JWH hadn’t played All Stars since 2015 and Kris hasn’t played before
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    Post by Camo123 Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:31 am

    There’s quite a bit of talk on Penisini as the underpriced “gun” CTR to look at given he tanked without Moses

    CTR is really difficult to fill, having a glance there’s around 13 400k+ CTRs who might not even start

    Might just look at Holmes/Staggs/Koula just because they don’t have a bye before Origin even if they’re probably overpriced
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    Post by mattnz Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:36 am

    easytiger wrote:

    Would that be Leniu minutes in his rookie year where he averaged 23 minutes, or Leniu minutes in his second year where he had a consistent role, played a lot more games for a 20 minute average?


    The better comparison is Smith's season just gone, where he got an average of 40 minutes. He is a much more similar player, capable of big minutes.

    Leniu's 33 minutes would give him an average around 35 points this season.
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    Post by mattnz Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:50 am

    Camo123 wrote:There’s quite a bit of talk on Penisini as the underpriced “gun” CTR to look at given he tanked without Moses

    CTR is really difficult to fill, having a glance there’s around 13 400k+ CTRs who might not even start

    Might just look at Holmes/Staggs/Koula just because they don’t have a bye before Origin even if they’re probably overpriced

    Could look at Garrick too. In his only game at CTR with Turbo in the team, he scored 104. Upside of kicking goals as well.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:13 am

    Camo123 wrote:

    Confirmed by Canberra Times exemption was unsuccessful (apologies for doubting you Rabs)

    Judiciary chair said in his opinion Wighton was more certain to play All Stars so was successful but JWH hadn’t played All Stars since 2015 and Kris hasn’t played before

    JWH is fair enough, I think. He was taking the piss going for it. Kris though had a letter from the Maori saying he'd be selected? Doesn't really matter that he hadn't played before. While Wighton had very publicly retired from rep footy until he reversed that last week. Whole thing is a bit of a shambles though.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:18 am

    Camo123 wrote:There’s quite a bit of talk on Penisini as the underpriced “gun” CTR to look at given he tanked without Moses

    CTR is really difficult to fill, having a glance there’s around 13 400k+ CTRs who might not even start

    Might just look at Holmes/Staggs/Koula just because they don’t have a bye before Origin even if they’re probably overpriced

    Suallii if he gets the wing and is goalkicking (look at his late season stats from 2023). Hammer (annoying early bye). Crichton if he's fullback. Lomax ditto. Looking at a few expensive DPP centres this year if the cheapies don't get a run, but all of them have caveats.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:21 am

    mattnz wrote:

    The better comparison is Smith's season just gone, where he got an average of 40 minutes. He is a much more similar player, capable of big minutes.

    Leniu's 33 minutes would give him an average around 35 points this season.

    Lindsay Smith? I think Lindsay Smith will probably get Lindsay Smith's role.
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    Post by mattnz Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:23 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Lindsay Smith? I think Lindsay Smith will probably get Lindsay Smith's role.

    I agree, Smith will get Smiths role.

    The question was which season of Leniu's minutes would Henry get, but the comparison isn't a small minute impact player's first full season, it is guys like Smith and Hopgood who are similar to Henry.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:34 am

    mattnz wrote:

    I agree, Smith will get Smiths role.

    The question was which season of Leniu's minutes would Henry get, but the comparison isn't a small minute impact player's first full season, it is guys like Smith and Hopgood who are similar to Henry.

    Idk how the Penrith bench will work this year. They've lost Salmon and Leniu. Some talk that Alamoti is training in the pack maybe taking the Salmon role? Do they carry a hooker? Or Peachey as utility and three other forwards. Will Martin or Sorenson play a bit of middle with Garner on the bench? Lot of unknowns (other than LSmith being there)

    Never seen Henry play, so don't know the Hopgood comparison, but Hopgood played 7 games off the bench for Penrith and averaged 26. Henry is priced at 23, so seems pretty much spot on unless eg Smith gets an injury.
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    Post by Holy Moly Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:39 am

    SandroTilocca wrote:Could open the door for Talau to start, desperately need more CTR options

    Don't do it. He sucked as bad as a centre that I needed could last year. Major suckage.

    Or do it.
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    Post by mattnz Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:43 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Idk how the Penrith bench will work this year. They've lost Salmon and Leniu. Some talk that Alamoti is training in the pack maybe taking the Salmon role? Do they carry a hooker? Or Peachey as utility and three other forwards. Will Martin or Sorenson play a bit of middle with Garner on the bench? Lot of unknowns (other than LSmith being there)

    Never seen Henry play, so don't know the Hopgood comparison, but Hopgood played 7 games off the bench for Penrith and averaged 26. Henry is priced at 23, so seems pretty much spot on unless eg Smith gets an injury.

    Hopgood averaged 34 minutes in 2021 and 37 minutes in 2022, in line with my expectation for Henry at 33.

    The big difference is the PPM. Henry scored at 1.1 in just 23 minutes last season and keeps that up in reserve grade with much bigger minutes - 62 points in 58 minute average last season.
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    Post by Camo123 Wed Jan 31, 2024 6:53 am

    mattnz wrote:

    Could look at Garrick too. In his only game at CTR with Turbo in the team, he scored 104. Upside of kicking goals as well.

    If we assume it’s a matter of when and not if Turbo gets injured I wonder if Garrick or Koula is now the backup FB after Koula last 2 games

    The 104 for Garrick clearly looks like outlier with his other 20s scores at CTR

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