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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 3 - Max or Josh?

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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:43 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    Unless he gets vaxxed, he misses games in QLD and VIC

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Unless we see different, assuming Kenny bench like last year.

    Cheers lads.

    Vaxxed and no Kenny. I like
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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:54 pm

    No one is starting with TTurbo are they?
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    Post by mintotheimmortal Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:54 pm

    Welshy wrote:No one is starting with TTurbo are they?

    Not at the moment no, are you considering it?
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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 23, 2022 9:57 pm

    mintotheimmortal wrote:

    Not at the moment no, are you considering it?

    Zero chance mate, only averaged 30 points a game more than his next best fantasy season affraid

    Only way is down surely after that sort of season, 1.6 tries a game including Origin

    Best case he gets within 5 points of current priced average

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    Post by mattnz Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:02 pm

    Welshy wrote:No one is starting with TTurbo are they?
    If Cleary is announced as rounds 3-4 I would seriously consider it. Could be easy to fall behind a bit without him.
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:04 pm

    Welshy wrote:No one is starting with TTurbo are they?

    He's at ~24% ownership, so obviously some people are

    Most people here prefer Cleary, and I don't think you can do both without killing your squad balance
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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:15 pm

    Milchcow wrote:

    He's at ~24% ownership, so obviously some people are

    Most people here prefer Cleary, and I don't think you can do both without killing your squad balance

    That season is surely a bigger anomaly than when Cleary first pulled from the fantasy pack

    At least Clearys stats are backed up with base?


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    Post by Rabbits21 Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:24 pm

    Lchy wrote:Would also like to chip in with my newfound unequivocal love for Cam McInnes. I think 65 minutes is the absolute lowest workload he'd get, on decent coin as Welshy says they're probably moulding their pack around him doing some serious grunt work in the middle. He could also do a bit of pinch hitting at hooker to give Brailey a spell, I know Brails played close to 80 last year but 80min hookers are few and far between in the 6 again era so Cam could benefit. I'm giving him a 60 floor at worst, best he's hitting 70s. Superb VC option right now I'm thinking but could easily be a Cleary alternative if you're braver than me
    Coming off the ACL I’m staying clear.
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:25 pm

    Welshy wrote:Anyone taking minutes off Koro this year? Could he the cheaper return to form gun hooker option?

    Mitch Kenny I believe as the utility back up HOK
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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:29 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

    Mitch Kenny I believe as the utility back up HOK

    Cheers mate and Matt pointed out he also isn't vaxxed so could miss some games.

    I'm interested if Kenny gets canned though
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    Post by Chewie Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:37 pm

    Welshy wrote:No one is starting with TTurbo are they?

    A tad over 20% of coaches are starting with Turbo.
    He's pricey though and is affected by the TB nerf.
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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:41 pm

    Chewie wrote:

    A tad over 20% of coaches are starting with Turbo.
    He's pricey though and is affected by the TB nerf.

    I'm on about on here mate, Just can't see him getting anywhere near that sort of season again

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    Post by Chewie Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:47 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    That season is surely a bigger anomaly than when Cleary first pulled from the fantasy pack

    At least Clearys stats are backed up with base?

    There was a big gap between the top of the ladder and the bottom of the ladder last season which caused big blow-outs. The bottom dwellers are looking a bit better on paper this season (some still look shabby) so I think we can expect a bit more balance.
    The slight change to the 6 again rule will probably help slow the game down a little as well.
    Tommy may find stronger opposition on the field this season?
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    Post by Lchy Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:52 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    Coming off the ACL I’m staying clear.

    He did his ACL late pre-season so he's had a full 13 month recovery, not your usual 7-8 months. Anecdotally middle forwards seem to have a lower re-injury rate than an outside back for example, with less lateral movement required. Brailey did his ACL in round 3 of 2020 and hardly skipped a beat last season, similarly Welch 2019 or Hodgson 2020
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:57 pm

    New rules to concussion protocols announced today. Looks like its up to an independent doctor will have the power to pull players out of matches not the club doctors


    https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/nrl-s-radical-change-to-concussion-protocols/ar-AAUckjX?ocid=msedgntp


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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:58 pm

    Chewie wrote:

    There was a big gap between the top of the ladder and the bottom of the ladder last season which caused big blow-outs. The bottom dwellers are looking a bit better on paper this season (some still look shabby) so I think we can expect a bit more balance.
    The slight change to the 6 again rule will probably help slow the game down a little as well.
    Tommy may find stronger opposition on the field this season?

    Add in an unsustainable try scoring season and only way is down surely
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    Post by Finger Puppet Mafia Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:24 pm

    Odd how we think that players that have amazing year can only go down rather than push on, yet players that have an off year are sure to go up.

    Are our Fantasy minds set to think that a fallen gun is great value and as such "must go up" thus being a great pick. In return a player with a breakout season "must come down" to allow us to justify picking them up at a cheaper price, rather than paying in full.
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    Post by Welshy Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:29 pm

    Finger Puppet Mafia wrote:Odd how we think that players that have amazing year can only go down rather than push on, yet players that have an off year are sure to go up.

    In regards to Turbo his previous best fantasy season was a 49 average.

    He scored a try A GAME more than previous best try average. 1.6 vs 0.6

    29 tries in a season (including origin) if he replicates that, then as always will put the hand up and say i was wrong, but can 't see it
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    Post by Finger Puppet Mafia Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:46 pm

    Welshy wrote:

    In regards to Turbo his previous best fantasy season was a 49 average.

    He scored a try A GAME more than previous best try average. 1.6 vs 0.6

    29 tries in a season (including origin) if he replicates that than as always will put the hand up and say i was wrong, but can 't see it


    True. In regards to Cleary he had a breakout year in 2020 averaging 73 points. A whopping 73. Fuck a duck! His previous best was a 54 point average the year before in 2019. Surely 2021 could top to a 73 point average.

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    Post by Mulvy Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:54 pm

    mattnz wrote:

    3 games at lock, including an 80 minute game. Average of 67 minutes for 47 points.

    He racks up almost as many tackles playing on the edge as he does in the middle, gets more run meters and more attacking stats.

    Didn't a bunch of those "edge" games see him play the first 20 on the edge before moving to the middle anyway? Would explain why he makes as many tackles on the "edge".

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