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    NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 56 - Rabbits21 Stew

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    Post by easytiger Mon May 24, 2021 8:09 am

    Cleary's scoring is definitely an extreme outlier, but it is what it is.

    Here's my perspective as someone who has a serial history of NOT starting with the popular Captaincy choice;

    From about 2015 I decided that a 30 year old Cameron Smith was likely to slow down and his scoring would drop somewhat - giving me a (theoretical) advantage.

    That kind've worked in 2018 when Cook had a break out season (but still took me about 3 or 4 weeks to feel safe to put the C on him).

    Last year I decided that I could get better value starting with a Taumalolo Captain rather than joining the Haas pack.
    It worked for a couple of weeks, until I was suddenly one of the few with my Captain out injured and with a lack of depth, had to sideways move to Cook.

    The thing is, it almost always ends up being a dumb play.
    The advantage of going an alternative Captaincy route to the pack is really so small compared with the disadvantage of if the pack were right (and most of the time they are).

    If in the best case scenario for a non-owner; Cleary had a 20min HIA or injury - guess what, either the pack just holds for a week - and maybe you pick him up in a week or two for a $100k discount OR the pack sells him straightaway and you've maybe picked up 100 points and avoided a $100k loss.

    Either way; $100k isn't that much of an advantage when you're trying to add $4million to your squad value to build a gun pack.
    The 100 points isn't that much when you're trying to accumulate 25,000+ points across 25 rounds.

    Risk - reward. The risk greatly outweighs the potential reward.
    You can't WIN fantasy in the first month, but you can LOSE it - choose your Waterloo!


    The risk was even greater this year with last year's other two top players unavailable to start; McInnes (season-ended injury), Haas (suspended).
    Then you had Taumalolo (expecting less minutes), DCE (arrival of a genuine playmaker at 6 in Foran) and even Grant (injured).

    Unfortunately for non-owners they have been heavily punished with Cleary's scoring.
    It's not one bad-decision though, it's a bad-decision not to start, then each following week has been a further bad-decision until you end up at a point that the disadvantage is so huge there seems little point in changing your mind.

    Tommy Turbo for me was a bad decision not getting him when named that first week.
    It was a worse decision not picking him up each of the next two following weeks.
    Now I just live with it, but it's not the scorers fault, or the scoring system, or the 90% of top 5k players fault, or the "group-think's" fault for being right.

    My decision, my choice, and my choice this week when I still don't buy him.
    When he put's up another hundred this week, I'll just have to wear it and take the lessons I can for next year...
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    Post by my tv broke Mon May 24, 2021 8:13 am

    Turbo is really fucking me up.

    *checks Turbo's next fixture*

    Sunday 4pm vs Knights

    ffs
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Mon May 24, 2021 8:19 am

    my tv broke wrote:Turbo is really fucking me up.

    *checks Turbo's next fixture*

    Sunday 4pm vs Knights

    ffs
    Searching for some hope

    *checks Hynes next fixture*

    Thursday night vs Broncos

    You beauty
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    Post by thelastdodo Mon May 24, 2021 8:22 am

    Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:
    Haha the few was more for effect really. I’m just super touchy atm, a bloody ticking time bomb


    Cheer up mate, we need you here

    Liverpool won this morning @ qualified for champions league
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    Post by my tv broke Mon May 24, 2021 8:26 am

    Moanaman wrote:tell your SO you love them

    I've been sleeping in the spare room since I showed her my rank.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Mon May 24, 2021 8:28 am

    thelastdodo wrote:


    Cheer up mate, we need you here

    Liverpool won this morning @ qualified for champions league
    Haha ive been up all morning Smile its been a nice day so far
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    Post by Moanaman Mon May 24, 2021 8:29 am

    my tv broke wrote:

    I've been sleeping in the spare room since I showed her my rank.

    probably deserved then.... Razz
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    Post by Jumping Marlin Mon May 24, 2021 8:36 am

    Cleary about to be $1.2m and priced at around 96 average.

    In terms of injury/early rest scores letting those without get a fallen gun cheaply, Cleary scoring a 50 (say), in now like any other gun scoring about 10.
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    Post by wolfking Mon May 24, 2021 8:38 am

    my tv broke wrote:Turbo is really fucking me up.

    *checks Turbo's next fixture*

    Sunday 4pm vs Knights

    ffs

    Fuck another 4pm Sunday game. Going to be a tortuous weekend.
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    Post by RandomSil Mon May 24, 2021 8:38 am

    Man I lost 700 odd ranks this week and want Walsh/Hynes but should save trades and have a decent team.

    HOK: J. Bailey
    MID: P. Haas, I. Papalii, C. Watson
    EDG: D. Fifita, A. Crichton
    HLF: N. Cleary, M. Moses
    CTR: J. Bird, S. Crichton
    WFB: T. Trbojevic, J. Tedesco, D. Laurie

    INT: T. Starling, J. Schuster, M. Lodge, S. Walker

    EMG: T. Flegler, T. Gamble, J. Isaako, T. Peachey

    Isaako and Laurie have capped out on cash aside from a big game from the pair. But crazy to trade them so close to Round 13


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    Post by RandomSil Mon May 24, 2021 8:40 am

    Oh and speaking of better halves, mine said yes!
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    Post by wolfking Mon May 24, 2021 8:44 am

    RandomSil wrote:Oh and speaking of better halves, mine said yes!

    cheer congrats to you my friend, wonderful news!
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Mon May 24, 2021 8:46 am

    RandomSil wrote:Oh and speaking of better halves, mine said yes!
    You little beauty
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    Post by my tv broke Mon May 24, 2021 8:47 am

    RandomSil wrote:Oh and speaking of better halves, mine said yes!

    Nice one! Where did you end up popping the Q
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    Post by RandomSil Mon May 24, 2021 8:50 am

    my tv broke wrote:
    RandomSil wrote:Oh and speaking of better halves, mine said yes!

    Nice one! Where did you end up popping the Q

    Ended up on a kookaburra cruise on the river. We were getting photos done so decided to do it there during the photo
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    Post by Honey Badger Mon May 24, 2021 8:51 am

    Preseason there is always too much talk about value. If you want reliable captain just start with him and pay the money.
    In saying that I paid the money and then in rd 1 I captain Angus over Cleary. What a fool!
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    Post by my tv broke Mon May 24, 2021 8:53 am

    RandomSil wrote:

    Ended up on a kookaburra cruise on the river. We were getting photos done so decided to do it there during the photo

    the ol kookaburra queen!
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    Post by Aardvark Mon May 24, 2021 8:55 am

    RandomSil wrote:Oh and speaking of better halves, mine said yes!

    Nice!!!!
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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Mon May 24, 2021 8:57 am

    RandomSil wrote:Man I lost 700 odd ranks this week and want Walsh/Hynes but should save trades and have a decent team.

    HOK: J. Bailey
    MID: P. Haas, I. Papalii, C. Watson
    EDG: D. Fifita, A. Crichton
    HLF: N. Cleary, M. Moses
    CTR: J. Bird, S. Crichton
    WFB: T. Trbojevic, J. Tedesco, D. Laurie

    INT: T. Starling, J. Schuster, M. Lodge, S. Walker

    EMG: T. Flegler, T. Gamble, J. Isaako, T. Peachey

    Isaako and Laurie have capped out on cash aside from a big game from the pair.

    Im not playing NRLF this year so take with a grain of salt mate - but couldnt/shouldnt you go S Walker to Hynes? For various reasons Walker looks like a pretty obvious out to me....and Hynes looks like a beast and Storm have some easy games coming up. I watched Hynes pretty closely, and he scored all that and barely had a kick return. For the first 50 minutes at least, and almost every time Canberra kicked it went out or to one of the wingers...

    Walsh Im not so sure about. Brown seems intent on managing his workload, and although last week will make it hard for him not to play him at FB for a few games, I wouldnt be surprised if he plays as bench utility some weeks. Thats said, for $400k with a BE which I suspect means he will make some coin for a while... hard to ignore based on the performances he's put out recently!


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    Post by Rippin and Tearin Mon May 24, 2021 8:58 am

    RandomSil wrote:Oh and speaking of better halves, mine said yes!

    Congrats!!

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