NRL Fantasy 2021 - Part 13 - The Milfening

Jele wrote:

2. is the main reason I'm reluctant to make changes at this point - who knows what else is coming?  But depending on your team structure, Koro to say Papalii or SST could give you a nice little bank and may not cost you too much in points - at least for round 1.

my tv broke wrote:The Gosi gonna score more than Riki joke prediciton is looking pretty good

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Lodge is an unlucky break. Like most I think he loses a lot of value when Haas comes back so unless he plays next week he is probably a trade for me. Looking at the likes of Leniu, Alvaro, Faamausili, Uto even Magoulias as possible options. Role is more important than score for these guys when sizing up replacements.

Hard to take anything out of that game in terms of minutes for the forwards with all the injuries to the Broncos

Milford got the role I didn't expect and is firmly back on the radar with nearly 500 kick metres. Of note Turpin kicked the ball more than Croft which should leave Milford's role pretty secure. Not sure I will have to cash to splash, or a second under performing player, but while he is kicking the piss out of the ball he is fantasy relevant.

Turpin with the most boring 53 I've seen in a while. Hard to get inspired watching him play, but if he makes me 150k I'll hold.

Paulo had his score bailed out by a late try and doesn't seem to have the minutes that Brad Arthur hinted at. Hard pass for me and glad I didn't end up with him

Moses and Matterson firmly got out of jail with a late run of points. Both looked on track for a sub 30 at half time. I think the "Moses loses his kick metres" narative is heavily over blown. In the first half, the Eels kept dropping the ball before they could get to last tackle so no one got to kick. In the second half Moses seemed to be first receiver on a similar number of last tackle plays to last year, but they ran the ball a fair bit to try and chase points. Definitely a hold for me, but feel very lucky to have gotten away with a 60 rather than a 30

Opacic so far has the points in the battle of the cheap centres. Looked solid defensively and did some work coming out of his own end. Won't make 20 tackles every week but should add some attacking stats for a 30-35 average.

Papali'i was incredible off the bench. Not sure that role is sustainable, having played more minutes than RCG and will probably be a better real life player than fantasy player

Welshy wrote:
a Matt/Rabbits hybrid team. My word

easytiger wrote:

I have a weird analogy that has ruminated in my head, in which;

Matt is the Anthony Seibold of the forum. Despite peoples frustrations with him, he has some interesting ideas about how to achieve excellence. The problem is, he tends to over think it and is maybe trying too hard to come at things from a different angle - when coming closer to the pack-thought (with a smaller, more selective amount of outside-the-box ideas) would likely give him better results.

Rabbits would then be Kevvy Walters. In isolation he might not look like the greatest coach, but he's extremely consultative and thrives at bringing other opinions into the fold (some may say a little too much). He is somewhat selective about whose opinions he applies more value to than others, which probably helps as well.

At the end of the day, I'd back Rabbits (or Kevvy) to do better of the two approaches.

Naturally MTB would be a mellow version of Craig Bellamy - consistent & purposeful - but without the coaches box meltdowns (or at least as far as we know).

easytiger wrote:

I have a weird analogy that has ruminated in my head, in which;

Matt is the Anthony Seibold of the forum. Despite peoples frustrations with him, he has some interesting ideas about how to achieve excellence. The problem is, he tends to over think it and is maybe trying too hard to come at things from a different angle - when coming closer to the pack-thought (with a smaller, more selective amount of outside-the-box ideas) would likely give him better results.

Rabbits would then be Kevvy Walters. In isolation he might not look like the greatest coach, but he's extremely consultative and thrives at bringing other opinions into the fold (some may say a little too much). He is somewhat selective about whose opinions he applies more value to than others, which probably helps as well.

At the end of the day, I'd back Rabbits (or Kevvy) to do better of the two approaches.

Naturally MTB would be a mellow version of Craig Bellamy - consistent & purposeful - but without the coaches box meltdowns (or at least as far as we know).

robelgordo wrote:

Thanks! Was initially thinking Koro -> AFB (have SST)

I think I’ll wait and see for now

Dolamite wrote:Riki 10 missed tackles. He needs to stop flying out of the line trying to put on big hits

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Lodge is an unlucky break. Like most I think he loses a lot of value when Haas comes back so unless he plays next week he is probably a trade for me. Looking at the likes of Leniu, Alvaro, Faamausili, Uto even Magoulias as possible options. Role is more important than score for these guys when sizing up replacements.

Hard to take anything out of that game in terms of minutes for the forwards with all the injuries to the Broncos

Milford got the role I didn't expect and is firmly back on the radar with nearly 500 kick metres. Of note Turpin kicked the ball more than Croft which should leave Milford's role pretty secure. Not sure I will have to cash to splash, or a second under performing player, but while he is kicking the piss out of the ball he is fantasy relevant.

Turpin with the most boring 53 I've seen in a while. Hard to get inspired watching him play, but if he makes me 150k I'll hold.

Paulo had his score bailed out by a late try and doesn't seem to have the minutes that Brad Arthur hinted at. Hard pass for me and glad I didn't end up with him

Moses and Matterson firmly got out of jail with a late run of points. Both looked on track for a sub 30 at half time. I think the "Moses loses his kick metres" narative is heavily over blown. In the first half, the Eels kept dropping the ball before they could get to last tackle so no one got to kick. In the second half Moses seemed to be first receiver on a similar number of last tackle plays to last year, but they ran the ball a fair bit to try and chase points. Definitely a hold for me, but feel very lucky to have gotten away with a 60 rather than a 30

Opacic so far has the points in the battle of the cheap centres. Looked solid defensively and did some work coming out of his own end. Won't make 20 tackles every week but should add some attacking stats for a 30-35 average.

Papali'i was incredible off the bench. Not sure that role is sustainable, having played more minutes than RCG and will probably be a better real life player than fantasy player

Welshy wrote:
You absolute beauty

Jele wrote:


Very good. Do we have a Michael Maguire or Ricky Stuart? Better still, who is most likely to slap one of his players in the face to fire them up? Who would be Wayne?

easytiger wrote:

Good post.
Just on Paulo;
Paulo had his score bailed out by a late try and doesn't seem to have the minutes that Brad Arthur hinted at.

He managed 59 minutes which compares to 46 for his first match last year, and it took till round 4 (after Covid break) to reach that number of minutes.
He played 59 minutes or more on 9 of 22 occasions last year - averaging 54MPG.

So it's possible he builds up to more minutes than that, which would allow for the increased minutes that Arthur suggested (it just might not be as much of an increase as some people think/want).

I think one question is whether him coming back for a third stint was planned (or simply contextual due to the nature of the game).
If he hadn't come back for the third stint he ends up playing 47 minutes.
He's probably a watch and see, by which point he probably becomes a pass anyway... (especially given the fortuitous 77 to start)

Jele wrote:

Very good. Do we have a Michael Maguire or Ricky Stuart? Better still, who is most likely to slap one of his players in the face to fire them up? Who would be Wayne?

easytiger wrote:

You could be the Ricky Stuart - no time for sooks (looking at you Latrell), happy to back an off-the-boil player with a second chance (Milford last year), and don't take shit from the media or silly statements (e.g. someone saying JBrailey is a bad buy) - of course the associations with the other Rugby helps too

Boozecluez wrote:Not fantasy or league but something for the youngsters, Christian Cullen
Got to remember this was the amateur era against world class competition and he consistently did this
Has a heap of 100m tries too, here is only a small portion of his long rangers
Can only imagine he if played league
Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPf-tC6qKSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSWq45VufaI&t=116s

easytiger wrote:

I have a weird analogy that has ruminated in my head, in which;

Matt is the Anthony Seibold of the forum. Despite peoples frustrations with him, he has some interesting ideas about how to achieve excellence. The problem is, he tends to over think it and is maybe trying too hard to come at things from a different angle - when coming closer to the pack-thought (with a smaller, more selective amount of outside-the-box ideas) would likely give him better results.

Rabbits would then be Kevvy Walters. In isolation he might not look like the greatest coach, but he's extremely consultative and thrives at bringing other opinions into the fold (some may say a little too much). He is somewhat selective about whose opinions he applies more value to than others, which probably helps as well.

At the end of the day, I'd back Rabbits (or Kevvy) to do better of the two approaches.

Naturally MTB would be a mellow version of Craig Bellamy - consistent & purposeful - but without the coaches box meltdowns (or at least as far as we know).