NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 9

Don't overthink it lads. Friend has a career average of 53 as a starting hooker in non injured games. Those scores give you a keeper all year, at worst final squad 18th man/last upgrade. Bank the trade and call it a day

Pookus McFly wrote:

I also have all 4 but have been considering flicking Friend for the rumours MTB mentioned.
And also because I have none of those juicy $471-503k edge 2RFs at the moment.

Haha, This.

KingTeddy wrote:Whats everyones thoughts on Staggs? Showed amazing form last year and with Burns' comment the other day on his hammy it doesn't fill me with much confidence? Staggs or Burns?

Never considered but having a look he scored 2 tries in 3 games and lot of games with no tries was low 20s.

KingTeddy wrote:I read somewhere (I think fox sports) that Tex Hoy could be a smokey to partner Pearcey? Any truth behind this???

He's not in full squad, so not before mid-season at least.

WAG team, going for high ceiling guys, Parra's right side and a couple of Rnd 12 gun halves. Misses out on most of the middle 2rfs, but don't mind it as a punt. Watch out, Pookus, this is winning the Souths league again.

Friend
Fotuaika, Carrigan
Lolo (c), DFifita, Hess
Moses, ARey
Lomax, Blake
Pap, Aekins, Fergo

Koro, Brailey, Walters, Musgrove, Luai, BMag, Koloamatangi, 246

multiple.scoregasms wrote:Don't overthink it lads. Friend has a career average of 53 as a starting hooker in non injured games. Those scores give you a keeper all year, at worst final squad 18th man/last upgrade. Bank the trade and call it a day

I'm not arguing with the value and pedigree. But there's at least three hookers ahead of him for final team so I don't think he's a season keeper especially because he plays origin. If I start with him, he'll almost certainly be a rd 12 trade out. And trades need to be made to get points and money. Where possible, I'd rather some of those trades be from rd 12 keeper -> rd 16 keeper (in rds 13-16 obviously). I guess the question is, with so many value hookers and 2rf's, and even with Friend's obvious good value, is he a must have?

Mulvy wrote:

I'm not arguing with the value and pedigree. But there's at least three hookers ahead of him for final team so I don't think he's a season keeper especially because he plays origin. If I start with him, he'll almost certainly be a rd 12 trade out. And trades need to be made to get points and money. Where possible, I'd rather some of those trades be from rd 12 keeper -> rd 16 keeper (in rds 13-16 obviously). I guess the question is, with so many value hookers and 2rf's, and even with Friend's obvious good value, is he a must have?

I feel like he'd be the perfect trade out for McInnes, with McInnes potentially losing cash upon return in time for R12 trade (McInnes due R8 according to casualty ward)

I reckon Verrills might start making more of an impact during Origin period if/when Friend plays Origin but I reckon he'll be absolutely fine scoring 50+ before Origin

Mulvy wrote:

You chose Bateman because it fit your looping strategy. Don't pat yourself on the back too much.

Actually I posted this research before his first game, that guided me to pick him:

Looking through Batemans stats, regardless of how many games it is over, for 2018 season across the league he ranked:
1st in Offloads (64, next closest 55)
5th in Tackle Busts (the other 6 in the top 7 were all backs)
2nd in hit ups
7th in meters gained
and had 618 tackles so depending on how many games there were was in the 20-30 tackles per game range.

Mulvy wrote:

I'm not arguing with the value and pedigree. But there's at least three hookers ahead of him for final team so I don't think he's a season keeper especially because he plays origin. If I start with him, he'll almost certainly be a rd 12 trade out. And trades need to be made to get points and money. Where possible, I'd rather some of those trades be from rd 12 keeper -> rd 16 keeper (in rds 13-16 obviously). I guess the question is, with so many value hookers and 2rf's, and even with Friend's obvious good value, is he a must have?

Friend to McInnis in Rnd 11 is the perfect world move. Then pick up Smith in Rnd 13 and Cook after Origin. Maybe Friend will be a post-Origin target too, depending on trades/form/injuries.

(Edit.. in the real world maybe Cook starts 70, 95, 80 and we're all ripping up our teams to get him.}

Milchcow wrote:

Main thing to be wary of is Eisenhuth coming back into the team, potentially at lock with Aloiai into prop.

Or Mikaele just continuing to play lowish minutes. He wouldn't be the first prop people jumped on with expectations of bigger minutes that never materialised

Who is everyone's pick to be this year's LAM? Lots of expectations of bigger minutes and roles for props

mattnz wrote:

Who is everyone's pick to be this year's LAM? Lots of expectations of bigger minutes and roles for props

LAM did come to fruition, was just a year after everyone got burned

Milikache wrote:Another player that might be underpriced is Victor Radley.

Didn't get a constant run at his preferred position due to having to cover injuries. From round 18 onwards (I assume this is when Verills began starting at hooker), he averges 48.8. If you take out round 24 score where he only played 26 mins (possibly rested?) he averages 52.7 in 6 games. He is priced at 38.

Worth having a punt?

Love the analysis, seems others have caught onto it as well, owned by 11%, much higher than I expected.

mattnz wrote:

Actually I posted this research before his first game, that guided me to pick him:

Looking through Batemans stats, regardless of how many games it is over, for 2018 season across the league he ranked:
1st in Offloads (64, next closest 55)
5th in Tackle Busts (the other 6 in the top 7 were all backs)
2nd in hit ups
7th in meters gained
and had 618 tackles so depending on how many games there were was in the 20-30 tackles per game range.

I actually remember would you believe. Don't get me wrong, obviously you had more than one reason to pick him, you do your research well, and it was a good pick. You also posted at length about how one of your main reasons for choosing him was because you had several centres, some with dpp, and Xerri npr, so you get to look at more than one players' scores before loopholing them. While some of us were doing the wait and see, you took the punt, and hats off to that, but don't kid yourself, that your preseason research and initial team selection process is any better than the guys on here who consistently finish 1000's of places higher. Could it not be that despite starting well your initial squads aren't balanced enough which is why they fade after a while, perhaps not enough money making, I don't know. I don't mean to sound narky, and I appreciate the ideas you add to the place. Haha, the more I write this, I offer it to you as a critique on how you might do better, even if it's from no expert like me.

Camo123 wrote:

I feel like he'd be the perfect trade out for McInnes, with McInnes potentially losing cash upon return in time for R12 trade (McInnes due R8 according to casualty ward)

I reckon Verrills might start making more of an impact during Origin period if/when Friend plays Origin but I reckon he'll be absolutely fine scoring 50+ before Origin

That's a good point. Friend to McInness rd 12. I like it. If I start Friend, that'll be on the cards.

Rabbits21 wrote:I’m hoping another option under 250k appears after this last round of trials.

I know some have currently 6 or 7 players under 250k. I just have the 5 but to have to just run with 4 players under 250k would piss me off.

Currently have Musgrove, Luai, Magoulias and Walters in my emergencies and Keppie on my interchange.

The only 2 I’m really confident in right now are Luai and Musgrove.

Looks like Funa is in line for a wing spot at Manly

Chewie wrote:https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/predicted-nrl-round-1-teams-club-debuts-and-shock-switches/news-story/8f8737fe5c666eaf1812e0bf06b9c2e1

Not sure what's in the kool-aid at Fox

Thats really shitty lazy reporting considering things like Ofa being out were known before this list was posted.

Well the season hasn't started and I can't keep up with the posts here already.
Well done FFs

Pookus McFly wrote:I’m with C.S on his interest in Mikaele. He didn’t quite get the minutes last year as even his starting prop stints often didn’t get a second stint. The gamble is that you bank on him coming back again after his rest. If he does get 40 minutes he will go close to 40 points and be one of the most undervalued non-rookies in the game. I just can’t fit him in at the moment, which hurts considering he costs a pittance. Madge also loves to musical chairs with his forwards which is a worry, but for 384k the potential certainly balances the risks

Sorry if this has already been discussed, just catching up on the thread. I had a look at the minutes of any starting prop at the tigers last season and save for Twal they were mostly 35-45 min stints. I think there is a real chance of Mikaele having a few bludger score's from a 37 min game and stalling any cash progression.

Camo123 wrote:

Why would having minimal cheapies below 250k piss you off? The less I need the better. My Lolo-less draft only has the 4 <250k EMG players which I quite like although sacrificing a gun and needing to use an extra trade down the line to bring in Taumalolo is the compromise

As then I’ll probs have to run a shit centre like Watkins and I don’t wanna do that.