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    NRL Fantasy 2020 Part 5

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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:35 pm

    www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/we-want-to-make-him-more-versatile-murray-shift-shakes-up-bunnies-20200211-p53ztx.html

    South Sydney superstar Cameron Murray may be the reigning Dally M lock of the year, but Wayne Bennett believes he will become “more valuable” when he shifts him into a new position.

    Murray had a breakout 2019 in the No.13 jersey, representing NSW and Australia and taking out the positional award at the Dally Ms. Bennett, however, will turn him into an edge back-rower to take over one of the jerseys worn by Sam Burgess or fellow retiring legend John Sutton.

    “We want to make him more versatile and a bit more valuable to us in other ways,” Bennett told the Herald.

    “He can play on either edge, he’s capable of doing that. I’ll make a final decision on which edge he plays on, but he can also play in the middle. It will be a mixture of both those positions.

    “The way he plays, he can tell me whatever number he wants and he can have it.

    “He’s not a big guy and he plays above his weight. We don’t want to kill him.

    “It will give us more flexibility around the interchange and he can play in vital parts of the game.

    “He’s got a great future, he’s capitalising on that and has already played for Australia.

    Burgess and Sutton represented the Rabbitohs a combined 519 times at first-grade level and their departures leaves a huge void for their former teammates to fill. Liam Knight will get first crack at the lock-forward spot after recently re-signing on a four-year deal.

    “We are going to miss those blokes, they are some of the great players in our game,” Bennett said.

    “Last year we had John Sutton and Sam Burgess playing there for us and that’s changed and we’ll tinker with a few things.

    “We’ll give Liam the opportunity to start, he’s a starter now.

    “We’ll get a better balance and maximise what we have got.”

    Souths have all but given up on welcoming Jai Arrow to the club before his new contract commences in 2021. The Gold Coast are still reeling from another ACL injury to captain Ryan James and aren’t prepared to let their other marquee forward depart early.

    The Titans were keen to explore the possibility of signing Newcastle prop Herman Ese'ese to bolster their pack immediately, although the Knights made it clear they won’t be letting him go.

    Souths may not get Arrow immediately, but they are planning for the future. They already have one of the most exciting prospects in the game, Joseph Suaalii, on their books and are preparing to offer him a contract extension that will make him the richest teen in the game.

    Suaalii isn’t able to play first-grade until his 18th birthday ticks over next August. However, he is one of the hottest properties in either code with Wallabies coach Dave Rennie recently meeting with him in a bid to get him to commit to the 15-man game.

    The Rabbitohs under-16s captain tore up the Harold Matthews competition; in just nine games he scored 15 tries, made 84 tackle breaks, notched six try-assists and made 11 line breaks.

    The 16-year-old is a member of the NSW Blues’ pathway program, but Samoan coach Matt Parish wants to encourage him to pledge his eligibility to the Pacific Nation for the 2021 World Cup.

    “Definitely, I’ve seen him play and he’s going to be a good player,” Parish said.

    “You talk about a Greg Inglis clone - full stop, that’s it. He quick, big, strong, skilful, good in the air, he’s got it.


    “He’s a big athletic thing, quick and strong. He’s got that physique where he’s going to fill out. He’s obviously got some talent and the physique to go with it. If he keeps his head down and does the right things, he’s going to make it somewhere.”






    That’s big news lads!




    Knight is now likely to get DPP too and I’m sure he will get 50mins at lock maybe even 51-52mins.


    Liam Knight, lock it in!
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:40 pm

    I’d be avoiding Su’a and Lowe now too, just too much uncertainty re their minutes.
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    Post by White Lightning Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:42 pm

    So is Bennett saying Murray will play 80 mins. Some time in the middle then edge or vice versa.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:45 pm

    Likely Souths pack as I told MS a couple of weeks ago:

    8. Tatola
    9. Cook
    10. Tom
    11. Murray
    12. Lowe
    13. Knight

    14. Su’a
    15. Nicholls
    16. Sironen
    17. Amone

    18. Koloamatangi

    Murray will play at least 68-70mins now and possibly 80 sometimes.

    I wouldn’t expect Tom to get more than 40mins.

    Sironen and Amone won’t see probs more than 30mins.

    I easily see Knight playing the first 25mins and last 25mins at lock.

    If we get a HIA or injured player in the pack too I reckon Knight plays more minutes possibly 57mins.

    I definitely now can see Knight averaging 47 maybe 48. That’s enough for mine.
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:45 pm

    White Lightning wrote:

    Apparently Talau won't play as he's coming back from some injury & he won't be ready in time.
    I don't think the player swap will happen as there seems to be complex issues they can't resolve.

    Loan swap in the too hard basket for the NRL at the moment
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:47 pm

    White Lightning wrote:So is Bennett saying Murray will play 80 mins. Some time in the middle then edge or vice versa.
    He said he will be on the field at more crucial times, which I think he means 10mins either side of half time where when we took him off we went to shit and that’s when we leaked a number of tries last season.

    I can’t see Murray playing less than 68-70mins, maybe 80. If he is to have a breather it’ll only be a short one or if we are winning well he may pull him off with 7-8mins left.

    I still think Knight starting in the 13 is gonna be pretty fantasy relevant and he will become even more popular. There is no way he plays less than 50mins, if he does that’ll just about do me!
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    Post by Camo123 Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:50 pm

    Moving Murray to an edge would weaken them massively with PTB speed, their go-forward would be way worse

    Why weaken a strength to strengthen a slight weakness. Also ball playing locks are the big thing now and I don't see Knight being very good at that
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    Post by White Lightning Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:52 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    He said he will be on the field at more crucial times, which I think he means 10mins either side of half time where when we took him off we went to shit and that’s when we leaked a number of tries last season.

    I can’t see Murray playing less than 68-70mins, maybe 80. If he is to have a breather it’ll only be a short one or if we are winning well he may pull him off with 7-8mins left.

    I still think Knight starting in the 13 is gonna be pretty fantasy relevant and he will become even more popular. There is no way he plays less than 50mins, if he does that’ll just about do me!

    I might go C. Murray instead of Taumalolo. If Murray is playing big mins with his work rate he's going to score 55+.
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    Post by my tv broke Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:02 pm

    Murray to an edge weakens their team imo..
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    Post by Pookus McFly Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:06 pm

    Until I actually see it with my own eyes, I will never listen to anything that comes out of Wayne’s mouth. Nobody is more infamous for playing ducks and drakes with his teams and messing with reporters with “scoops” just for shits and giggles.

    I was never truly sure that Latrell was coming to Souths until Bennett came out and said it definitely wasn’t happening, but then I knew it with certainty.
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    Post by Loomer Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:08 pm

    Milchcow wrote:
    Have we got a list somewhere of everyone who has been training the house down this pre-season.

    Based on pictures Latrell has been eating the house down
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:13 pm

    I love the specificity of the minutes projections now... 50 maybe 52, 68-70... All this is just confirming to me that I’m right to not waste any more time on my team until at least the second week of trials. Do like the chat tho.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:13 pm

    my tv broke wrote:Murray to an edge weakens their team imo..
    he will still be roaming in the middle in attack and once Su’a comes off the bench Murray will play some middle still in both attack and defence.

    I can see why Wayne is doing it as I believe Murray can be the best roaming second rower in the game and it will prolong his career as his body will break down constantly bring in the middle.

    Also we have bugger all second row depth and Wayne mustn’t be convinced Lowe and Su’a can handle massive minutes each which tbh I’m not sure they’re up to it either.
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    Post by Welshy Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:14 pm

    Camo123 wrote:Moving Murray to an edge would weaken them massively with PTB speed, their go-forward would be way worse

    Why weaken a strength to strengthen a slight weakness. Also ball playing locks are the big thing now and I don't see Knight being very good at that

    my tv broke wrote:Murray to an edge weakens their team imo..

    Agreed. Why move the best lock in the league into a new position?
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:15 pm

    Loomer wrote:

    Based on pictures Latrell has been eating the house down
    He’s actually looking much fitter now and losing weight from what I saw of yesterday’s training photos he looks good. He will be right.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:17 pm

    robelgordo wrote:I love the specificity of the minutes projections now... 50 maybe 52, 68-70... All this is just confirming to me that I’m right to not waste any more time on my team until at least the second week of trials. Do like the chat tho.
    I love numbers ahahahaha, that’s just how I am and I like to be precise.

    I honestly believe Knight is ready to step up and be an enforcer in the Souths pack. I expect him to go to another level this season both on field in general and in fantasy.
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    Post by Adrianoooo Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:18 pm

    If only you could trust what Wayne says. But that is pretty interesting news
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    Post by Bethany_B Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:19 pm

    Thoughts on my side?

    Api
    Haas, Fotu
    D Fifita, Williams, Su'A
    Cleary, Croft
    Burns, Lomax
    Best, Papy, Isaako

    Walters/Grant, Brailey, JMK, Mann

    Luai, Curran, Magoulias, Kolo

    $51K ITB
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    Post by robelgordo Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:20 pm

    Rabbits21 wrote:
    I love numbers ahahahaha, that’s just how I am and I like to be precise.

    I honestly believe Knight is ready to step up and be an enforcer in the Souths pack. I expect him to go to another level this season both on field in general and in fantasy.

    It does seem to be a thing for players to get more minutes if named 13 rather than 10/8, even if it’s pretty much the same role. So IF this happens, I’d be more inclined to roll with a Knight.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:21 pm

    The Goat Boys wrote:If Guerra started second row. How many minutes does everyone expect him to get.

    My other question is how many minutes does everyone expect Merrin the unit to get?

    I’d say Guerra if starting 50mins.

    Merrin 45mins.

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