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I'm getting some old magazines and my sister is getting a barbie doll and it's simply unacceptable and I will rant for half a page about it.
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SJ requested an immediate release from the Warriors . WArriors denied the release. More to come!
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Imagine a club not doing everything possible to keep their best player. I bet Lino is regretting going to the Knights to play reserve grade. On the Knights I saw this article where Gavet said Klemmer & me are going to be the most intimidating front row in the comp. Well Mr Gavet well done on your extreme optimism because Ese'ese, D. Saifiti, Glasby & even Josh King are in front of you imo.
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White Lightning wrote:Imagine a club not doing everything possible to keep their best player. I bet Lino is regretting going to the Knights to play reserve grade. On the Knights I saw this article where Gavet said Klemmer & me are going to be the most intimidating front row in the comp. Well Mr Gavet well done on your extreme optimism because Ese'ese, D. Saifiti, Glasby & even Josh King are in front of you imo.
How do you know they haven't?
At the end of the day its not that simple. They could throw SJ a $1.2m contract and he would gobble that up in a heart beat because it is way over his market value. If you know the back story on this, you'll know that in short, the Warriors dont even think he's worth $1m. I dont think they've gone about it in the best way they could, but at the end of the day they have basically told him to go test the waters on what he could get elsewhere and then have a chat with them about re-contracting. The message is though, he's gonna have to take a pay cut if he's gonna stay at the Warriors.
Im all for what they are doing. SJ at $1m is a bust IMO. They'd be better off spending that money in different ways.
SJ on the other hand has gotten hurt feelings and basically told them to F-off.
Also, important to remember that while SJ tried very hard to portray himself as a life long Warrior last time he signed on, he actually went to a whole bunch of other clubs first to see what he could get. It was only when he realised the best offer on the table was with the Warriors, when he signed on.
They are all playing the game and fair play to them, but for me, I think the Warriors are better off without him, unless they can all find happiness in a pay cut (but we all know that aint gonna happen cause SJ will never go for it).
My guess is he ends up on a reduced contract at the Sharks.
What will be interesting is to see what happens next year.. I doubt it will happen but he may even sit out the season....what will that do to his 2020 fantasy price
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Widdop asked for release from dragons, feeling home sick !!
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I was just listening to NZ news & the rumour is that Brian Smith has orchestrated the SJ out process & worse still they reckon they need the SJ money so M. Moses & C. Norman can come to the Warriors. Well excuse my language but NO FUCKING WAY DO I WANT MOSES & NORMAN AT THE WARRIORS. Lets not forget that the 2 of them don't like each other & spent the 2018 season bickering about being the main play maker on the field. Lets also remember that the 2 of them guided the Eels to the bottom of end of the table.
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SJ gets Widdop's million $ contract and everyone's happy except the Warriors who will continue to suck for the foreseeable future.
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Can we really see Widdop leaving the southern hemisphere for a return to England/ catalans/ Toronto. Would have to be a big contract surely and at least 4 years?
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Maybe he's the exception to the rule that personal reasons equals money?Cantbeatwinners wrote:Can we really see Widdop leaving the southern hemisphere for a return to England/ catalans/ Toronto. Would have to be a big contract surely and at least 4 years?
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Warriors grant immediate release of SJ. Let's gone Warriors. I bet Lino is regretting leaving now.
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I think the Toronto Wolfpack need a h/b.
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White Lightning wrote:I was just listening to NZ news & the rumour is that Brian Smith has orchestrated the SJ out process & worse still they reckon they need the SJ money so M. Moses & C. Norman can come to the Warriors. Well excuse my language but NO FUCKING WAY DO I WANT MOSES & NORMAN AT THE WARRIORS. Lets not forget that the 2 of them don't like each other & spent the 2018 season bickering about being the main play maker on the field. Lets also remember that the 2 of them guided the Eels to the bottom of end of the table.
Yup, this is how Im seeing it too.
I think though in defence of the Warriors re SJ, they simply don't believe he is worth the money he was getting, so they did have to do something.
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London need a half too having let Jarrod Sammut go
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Some guy on the radio hit the nail on the head. The Warrior's aren't inconsistent because of SJ, they are inconsistent & don't show up against the good teams because they have a forward pack that at best gains parity with the opposition pack but they never dominate an opposition pack. When you have average size forwards who are back rowers playing prop you know you're in trouble e.g. Paasi.
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On sc addicts a further development - SJ only wants a 1 year deal for 2019. Looks like he's a Rooster in 2020 when Cronk retires.
Also on Widdop if he does go back home it might make K. Mann an option for our fantasy teams if he plays in the hlf's.
Also on Widdop if he does go back home it might make K. Mann an option for our fantasy teams if he plays in the hlf's.
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Blaming SJ is just stupid. They have all sorts of issues attracting quality players from other teams and now they don't want to keep their best local either.White Lightning wrote:Some guy on the radio hit the nail on the head. The Warrior's aren't inconsistent because of SJ, they are inconsistent & don't show up against the good teams because they have a forward pack that at best gains parity with the opposition pack but they never dominate an opposition pack. When you have average size forwards who are back rowers playing prop you know you're in trouble e.g. Paasi.
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Who really cares what some average schmuck is saying about SJ and the Warriors. The main point is that there is a salary cap in this comp and the Warriors dont feel that SJ is worth the $1m he is currently on. Therefore currently he unwarrantedly sucks up a whole chunk of that cap and screws them in other areas. The argument therefore is that by freeing up that money the Warriors will then be able to attend to the issues they have in the forwards and be a better team for it.
Its all about money - not whether they want to keep someone or not.
Its all about money - not whether they want to keep someone or not.
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The only other hlf the Warriors have in their squad is Adam Keighran who comes from the Panthers & is apparently pretty good but he's young development player I think. Apparently the deal was that he must play a certain amount of first grade games probably coming off the bench but now it seems like he will get a lot of games/minutes. I can't see any quality hlf wanting to come to the Warriors unless they were paid a premium.
RTS might be a good option at wfb with SJ gone. Whenever SJ was injured RTS always got much more involved in games & got a lot of ball on attack. I've never done a comparison of RTS with SJ v RTS without SJ but I think just from watching games that RTS stats improve without SJ.
RTS might be a good option at wfb with SJ gone. Whenever SJ was injured RTS always got much more involved in games & got a lot of ball on attack. I've never done a comparison of RTS with SJ v RTS without SJ but I think just from watching games that RTS stats improve without SJ.