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FinchBren wrote:Choosing which gun half to start with is my biggest dilemma. SJ, Norman, DCE or Thurston
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Loomer wrote:So no Niko makes McC a must have at the price surely. I'd be worried about Niko turning up a few weeks down the line
What about McGuire giving him a spell as he did in the WCC.
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Random wrote:
What about McGuire giving him a spell as he did in the WCC.
That makes Mcguire must have? I'm confused
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My current 4 reserves are McInnes, RCG, SMat, KBrom
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I'll be very surprised if McGuire plays any reasonable time at hooker, if at all, but thats just my thoughts. I would expect Macca to play 70+ mins, probably 80.
Don't know what the plan moving forward is. From a personal point of view we need Nikorima's spark out of dummy half. Its understandable that he would return in q cup though since he isn't long back from surgery.
If you asked me two days ago who was the starting backline for rnd 1 i would never have even considered Moga so take it all with a grain of salt.
Don't know what the plan moving forward is. From a personal point of view we need Nikorima's spark out of dummy half. Its understandable that he would return in q cup though since he isn't long back from surgery.
If you asked me two days ago who was the starting backline for rnd 1 i would never have even considered Moga so take it all with a grain of salt.
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Loomer wrote:Random wrote:
What about McGuire giving him a spell as he did in the WCC.
That makes Mcguire must have? I'm confused
I mean I have been disappointed by McGuire in the past so I am not picking him up, but it potentially could make him a must have.
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Loomer wrote:So no Niko makes McC a must have at the price surely. I'd be worried about Niko turning up a few weeks down the line
Any hooker that isn't Smith or Lichaa has somebody that might not be there round 1 but could easily turn up down the line
McInnes - Field
Farah - Cook
McCullough - Nikorima
etc
I don't think any of them will play 80 minutes every single week. Just have to use a combination of future TLT guesswork and picking a player where you'l still be happy with their scores if they get a break during the game.
Its why McInnes is so popular - even if he only plays 60-70 minutes he can still pump out a 50.
One of the questions I have over McCullough is that last year he had a small drop in minutes but a larger drop in points. So I don't just want his minutes to increase, I need his workload to go back to 2015 levels too. Mostly needs to make more tackles.
At the moment I rate McCullough 4th choice hooker after Smith, McInnes, Brailey.
But if Brailey looks like being eased in off the bench or i otherwise get cold feet, then i think a McInnes+McCullough pairing could go well.
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Loomer wrote:
3 knee reconstruction surgeries and average of mid 20s in 3 seasons?
Didn't say he was in my 17.
His average over the past 2 years is 27.6. Only 7 games but its enough for me
He has (or had at one point) plenty of talent. Got to take a risk somewhere, and unlike some of the other cheap centres people are going with, there is evidence he will at least play.
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my tv broke wrote:It would be a game man to start Moga
He's just found his way into my squad. Don't think I'll start him but may pull that trigger closer to Thursday.
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Milchcow wrote:
Any hooker that isn't Smith or Lichaa has somebody that might not be there round 1 but could easily turn up down the line
McInnes - Field
Farah - Cook
McCullough - Nikorima
etc
I don't think any of them will play 80 minutes every single week. Just have to use a combination of future TLT guesswork and picking a player where you'l still be happy with their scores if they get a break during the game.
Its why McInnes is so popular - even if he only plays 60-70 minutes he can still pump out a 50.
One of the questions I have over McCullough is that last year he had a small drop in minutes but a larger drop in points. So I don't just want his minutes to increase, I need his workload to go back to 2015 levels too. Mostly needs to make more tackles.
At the moment I rate McCullough 4th choice hooker after Smith, McInnes, Brailey.
But if Brailey looks like being eased in off the bench or i otherwise get cold feet, then i think a McInnes+McCullough pairing could go well.
Why no Farah love?
Has been a gun in the past, unlikely to play 80mins, but is good for 60mins at hooker and possibly 70mins on the field if he spends time at lock. Im not sure where that idea has come from, but ive seen it mentioned a few times.
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Why no Farah love?
Has been a gun in the past, unlikely to play 80mins, but is good for 60mins at hooker and possibly 70mins on the field if he spends time at lock. Im not sure where that idea has come from, but ive seen it mentioned a few times.
Sharing minutes with Cook is why
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Interesting tit-bit re Thurston & Cowboys. The 1st 9 rounds the Cowboys only play out of the state of Queensland for 1 game & that's against the Dragons. Six out of 9 games at home. Great early draw for the Cowboys & opposition teams have to put up with the heat & travel. I know Coote &/or JT haven't been mentioned much on here but they could be great early picks. With Hayne looking unlikely to play round 1 if you can afford the extra 80k (Hayne to Coote) it could be Coote for your 3rd wfb.
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Loomer wrote:
You have no back rower playing 80 mins or more than 60. I find that very unlikely
That's just it mate. Unless Stimson starts and plays 80 I fail to see how the Storm will run an 80 min second rower while Tohu Harris isn't playing, it's all well and good in terms of theory that the edge second rowers play 80, but I just don't see Faufusi and Kromwich as capable of playing 80 at a standard that Bellamy will put up with, especially if they start to miss a few tackles. Hence why they look like being shared roles and maybe Jesse Bromwich picks up a few minutes.
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Random wrote:
I mean I have been disappointed by McGuire in the past so I am not picking him up, but it potentially could make him a must have.
Fail to see why McGuire playing hooker helps his scores, I would say it reduces his run metres during that time and as is he already is A defender so shouldn't increase his tackle count.
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Warriors wrote:Anyone think that Bromwich is a good shout to start the year and could get more mins than the 60 average he got last year? Especially with pretty much two 80 minute second rowers out for at least the first 8 rounds.
This probably takes some middle minutes of Bromwich and NAS to the edge and senior prop capable of 70+ minutes could pick some up?
JBromwich 65
Smith 80
McClean 45
Faufusi 55
KBromwich 60
Finucane 60
NAS 35
Glasby 40
Stimson 25
Leulaia 15
Broken down into playing groups
Smith 80
K Bromwich 60 (20 mins more than last year)
Finucane 60 (limited pre season, averaged 61.5mins last year)
NAS 35 (5 mins more than last year)
Faufusi 55 (sharing right edge role)
Stimson 25
J Bromwich 65 (5 mins more than last year)
McClean 45 (5 mins more than last year)
Glasby 40 (5 mins more than last year)
Leuluai 15
This doesn't account for injuries to backs which could mean J Bromwich could play some big minutes this year to start.
Think CWN is higher in the oecking order than Leuluai or Stimson?
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my tv broke wrote:Warriors wrote:I find this hard to believe, Ofa is a much bigger worker than Ese and I thought outplayed him in the WCS. But maybe I'm being biased based on Fantasy scoring potential, he always scores well if given the minutes.
I agree, though all the talk from the last month is that Ese Ese would be there ahead of Ofa. Its a little confusing to me.
Maybe they see Ese Ese as more capable of denting the line since he will only play small minutes anyway?
I reckon this could be right.
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Finch wrote:@NoWorries
I sent you a message but not sure I did it right (Said it sent, nothing in sent box though) I have joined all the leagues (L7).
Thanks
There's a bit of a quirk with messages-"sent" messages hang out in the outbox until read, as soon as they are read they move to sent. So in practice the outbox is actually the sent box, and the sent box is really a read box.
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Loomer wrote:Warriors wrote:Anyone think that Bromwich is a good shout to start the year and could get more mins than the 60 average he got last year? Especially with pretty much two 80 minute second rowers out for at least the first 8 rounds.
This probably takes some middle minutes of Bromwich and NAS to the edge and senior prop capable of 70+ minutes could pick some up?
JBromwich 65
Smith 80
McClean 45
Faufusi 55
KBromwich 60
Finucane 60
NAS 35
Glasby 40
Stimson 25
Leulaia 15
Broken down into playing groups
Smith 80
K Bromwich 60 (20 mins more than last year)
Finucane 60 (limited pre season, averaged 61.5mins last year)
NAS 35 (5 mins more than last year)
Faufusi 55 (sharing right edge role)
Stimson 25
J Bromwich 65 (5 mins more than last year)
McClean 45 (5 mins more than last year)
Glasby 40 (5 mins more than last year)
Leuluai 15
This doesn't account for injuries to backs which could mean J Bromwich could play some big minutes this year to start.
You have no back rower playing 80 mins or more than 60. I find that very unlikely
Storm with a rare 4 forward bench.
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rhinoceroo wrote:
Think CWN is higher in the oecking order than Leuluai or Stimson?
Agree, overlooked, probably comes in for Leuluai but plays 20-25 minutes. Maybe Jesse Bromwich doesn't play more than 60 minutes.
I think what people don't realise when doing minute calcs is that the average minutes from last year of the forwards often are far more than what the rotation will actually be this year because of injuries during games and key forwards being out of games altogether.
EDIT: This actually goes both ways as to whether it is a forward or a back that is injured.