Dream Team Virtual Sports - Sports Deck 2017 Thread

Oz Sport Mad wrote:

Quick question lads, I hear this bandied about a bit but does anyone read into much the team value. Particularly at this stage of the season?

I might sneak a glance later on in the season, as it will be somewhat of a measure of how well you've traded....but even then, a less expensive player may be trending upwards at that stage (due to form, opponents they are due to face etc.) which can throw out the balance between 'actual' and 'theoretical' value.

Just interested if it is something worth paying more attention to (i.e. more than my current amount of basically zero).....

It's certainly important, no doubt about that. To some extent it will be an indicator of how well your team is going, but perhaps most importantly there is a target total team value + cash in the bank that one needs to be able to afford the gun 17, 18, 19 or so players that coaches will be targeting by the end of the year. The quicker you get to this value the sooner you get into a position where you can start finalising that gun final squad.

That being said, at this early stage I would think team value will be correlated to the number of trades used. Im not saying Milch is doing this, but if a manager double traded each week, targeting players who's value's are likely to go up, they should have a team valued higher than someone who has been more conservative on trades. I guess my point is there, that its not an all else equal situation when comparing team values, particularly at this stage.

I personally wouldn't worry about it too much, what I would worry about is making sure you have the cash to execute your bye round strategies, and that you are getting close to having the value/cash to come out the other side of the byes with pretty close to your gun team.

That's how I look at it anyway.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

It's certainly important, no doubt about that. To some extent it will be an indicator of how well your team is going, but perhaps most importantly there is a target total team value + cash in the bank that one needs to be able to afford the gun 17, 18, 19 or so players that coaches will be targeting by the end of the year. The quicker you get to this value the sooner you get into a position where you can start finalising that gun final squad.

That being said, at this early stage I would think team value will be correlated to the number of trades used. Im not saying Milch is doing this, but if a manager double traded each week, targeting players who's value's are likely to go up, they should have a team valued higher than someone who has been more conservative on trades. I guess my point is there, that its not an all else equal situation when comparing team values, particularly at this stage.

I personally wouldn't worry about it too much, what I would worry about is making sure you have the cash to execute your bye round strategies, and that you are getting close to having the value/cash to come out the other side of the byes with pretty close to your gun team.

That's how I look at it anyway.

Yeah that's similar to what I was suggesting (just may not have explained it effectively).

At this stage of the season, I think it is completely irrelevant without knowing how many trades you've used to obtain that value (plus your cash reserves).

Later on in the season it may be a decent indicator of how well you've traded (for value) but as I said even then it is not the be all and end all.

For example and looking at 1 player in isolation.

Despite a dismal -7 and a loss of $45k of value (and counting), Joey Leilua's 'theoretical' value may be far greater than his actual $ value.

This is especially true of blokes who may be down on $ value due to HIA's or backs that have had some tougher games and lower scores but who have a good run of games ahead or their team is hitting form at the end of the season.

To me there is just too many variables for it to be a useful tool.

I guess at the end of the day you want to use your trades well, particularly in the early rounds turning those trades into cash so you can keep improving the 17 you put on the paddock. So team value at this stage does seem a reasonable indicator of how well you've been using your trades at least.

A bit of time to mull the next trade(s) over but who are people thinking of targeting this (next) week?

Struggling for trades this week.

Quite a few players I want to bring in over the next 3 weeks, hard trying to juggle the timing of everything, and picking the right cash outs.

Milchcow wrote:
Struggling for trades this week.

Quite a few players I want to bring in over the next 3 weeks, hard trying to juggle the timing of everything, and picking the right cash outs.

Im with you mate, its a real tough week.

Perhaps a little easier for some with Ponga dropping out of the 19, and now the likelihood of Elliot, MWZ, and Fuimaono starting.

Im lucky in the sense that I already took the punt on Elliot and Fuimaono over the last few weeks, but ironically that just makes trades even tougher. Add to that uncertainty about certain guys playing Origin or not and it becomes a very tough week!!

I have Mannering and Im a little torn whether to keep him or not. Im not too concerned with him missing 2 weeks (I can cover that) but if he were to miss round 12 that would be a real hit to the nuts cause he then misses 15 and 18 from memory too. Im leaning towards trading him out to Surgess or Brown maybe....

What are other people doing with Mannering?

Luckily for me I don't have Mannering.

Don't have MWZ or Fuimoana either. And not bringing them in this week. Going to take advantage of the free looks to see if they are worth it.

Bringing in Nathan Brown this week.
Next 2 weeks hopefully turn CHN, Yates and ETaylor into Surgess, James Graham and a cashout

Also really tempted by Norman this week - wish I'd brought him a couple weeks ago when he was sub $400k. Bit concerned by the potential for Moses and the impact on his scores though

I am holding Mannering. Two weeks out (if true) is not long enough to trade out a gun. Hopefully he will be back to play in round 12.

I've already traded out the wrong guy (Faufusi over Hess), so easy decision to get rid of Hess this week. Was originally thinking about Elliott but the Mannering news means I need a decent scorer for my 17. I like the look of SST but will opt for N.Brown I think although he is 100k more. Other trade will probably be Lamb - Frawley.

At this stage, I'm holding Ponga, but $315k is a lot to be sitting on the sidelines. Am thinking he becomes Munster in Rd 13. James Graham is my main Rd 12 target now.

I'm a Nonga in this comp. but if I had Ponga I'd be tempted to hold too. See how Coote goes, he might end up straight back in the team

Brought in Brown over Surgess. That is going to hurt. Otherwise doing we'll this week

code delta wrote:I'm a Nonga and a Nannering.

Hess > SST
Aubs > Munster
Rational. Trading players that scored me points and are new going to loose money for players that will score me points and make money.

I iike the first trade, but not the second. Aubs is back in the 2RF (at least for now) and hopefully will stay there with Napa, Cordner and possibly Guerra origin-bound. Plus Roosters play two of the three big byes.

466/6 (c) Gallen.

That's without Surgess too. Now watch as the weekend games stuff up my good start

Loose on 569/8 (c) Smith to come.

And a few others in our leagues on similar massive scores.

Weekly this week going to be massive

Flying this week but a tough final reserve choice. Gotta run with CHN or Hayne
447 from 6 players no captain. Lowest scorer is 56 from Taumalolo. McInnes Surgess Walker and Crichton all scoring above what I expected

400 from 5 including gal as captain but no surgess

RTS terrible, pretty sure everyone in top 10 would have him.

Milchcow wrote:
466/6 (c) Gallen.

That's without Surgess too. Now watch as the weekend games stuff up my good start

913 with BJ and brown to come

after last weeks soul crushing 700 its nice to see a bounce back

lloosemcgoose wrote:

913 with BJ and brown to come

after last weeks soul crushing 700 its nice to see a bounce back

Great score mate im only 737 with gordon aubs and norman to go hopefully will hit the 850 mark

lloosemcgoose wrote:

913 with BJ and brown to come

after last weeks soul crushing 700 its nice to see a bounce back

Great score Loose. It's a good matchup between you and Shizzle in L1 who is scoring well also.
I'm on 817 with Cotric, Mitchell and Norman to go. Need a big one from Mitchell to make up for my other 2 fullbacks (Tedesco and RTS).

Wow !!!!!!!!!!

Jordan Rapana is going to lose abt $160K in his last 2 games.