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    2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 1

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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:43 pm

    Welshy wrote:Thanks for that other team planner, been fucking about with a no Smith option...

    Luke, McCullough
    Tolman, Gurgess, Sipley, Cowboy Prop
    Merrin, Surgess, Friz, Elliott, Arrow, Capewell
    Norman, Api K, Elgey, Rookie
    Chambers, Idris, CScott, RJennings
    Tedesco, RTS, Hayne, Uate, Rookie

    overbudget slightly

    First draft of about 100. No Smith though I'm pretty sure I'll run with him in the end, and 3/4s need some work...

    McCullough, Peats
    McGuire, Gurgess, JWallace, (Perrett)
    Surgess (c), Taupau, Klemmer, KBrom, (LLeulia, Capewell)
    SJ, Norman, Elgey (Hampton)
    Idris, BKelly, (RJennings, CScott)
    RTS, Hayne, Slater, (Phythian, Drew)

    21k
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    Post by Warriors Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:15 pm

    Out of all the young Hookers I think Brailey is the only one I would go near if he jagged the starting spot, but then again its a big risk.

    We need to do a player analysis for Hookers and Halves.

    Hookers - Smith, McInnes, Hodgson, Farah, McCullough, Peats and I Luke. At this stage I have the first two. I have ruled out J Friend on price versus expected output, Lichaa on no change to circumstances, and Rein due to competing with Wallace for time.

    Halves - Norman, DCE, Cleary, Johnson, A Reynolds. I have the first two but the other three have all been in consideration.
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:48 pm

    Added the following links to the front page

    Honey Badger's team picker site
    http://www.azwebsolutions.co.nz/teampicker.php

    Milchcow's team planner (still draft version with incorrect prices, has all 2016 stats though)
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/t8gqrkac3r1tomk/2017+Team+Planner+v0.1.xlsm

    Milchcow's Price Change Predictor
    https://www.mediafire.com/?b6c5cy0c1941i4g
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:23 pm

    Lot of potential value at centre. I think most teams will have atleast 2 of these in their centres to start the year
    Walker 317k
    Hurrell 311k
    Sione 299k
    Gray 295k
    Jennings 293k
    Chambers 288k
    Whare 205k
    Idris 194k
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:35 pm

    Anyone like Coote as a bounce back candidate? Biggest regression between 2015 and 2016 was his run metres dropping from 138 to 72 per game. Also few attacking stats were lost (line breaks down from 10 to 4, tackle breaks down from 3.1 to 1.9 per game). The point that makes me consider him is kick metres and touches staying pretty similar meaning he was kept in the same role. Without running through game footage it my guess is he stopped returning kicks and started handing the ball off to Winterstein and Feldt. Can any Cowboys fans confirm this?
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    Post by Chewie Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:44 pm

    Things are heating up on this thread sunny

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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:51 pm

    First Draft:
    Smith, McCullough
    McGuire, JWH, Gurgess, (Hoare)
    Gallen, Hess, Arrow, (Stimpson, Knight, Asiata)
    Norman, Maloney, Sezer, (Elgey)
    Hurrell, Whare, (Idris, Scott)
    RTS, Coote, Hayne, (Uate, Phythian)

    17k left over

    Went a bit to heavy in the backs with Idris and Uate both wasting money on the pine. 2nd row feel light and no real upside in the halves would see me stuck with mid rangers. McGuire being DPP would give the pack a bit of balance.

    Second Draft:

    Smith, Hodgson
    McGuire, JWH, Gurgess, (Hoare)
    Gallen, Cordner, Hess, (Stimpson, Asiata, Capewell)
    Norman, McCrone, Elgey, (Rookie)
    Chambers, Whare, (Idris, Rjennings)
    RTS, Hayne, Uate, (Drew, Phythian)

    44k left over

    Feels a reserve short but got a bit of cash to work with. At this stage Asiata, Hoare or Idris would be 4th reserve unless I upgrade one to Arrow
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    Post by Warriors Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:56 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:Lot of potential value at centre. I think most teams will have atleast 2 of these in their centres to start the year
    Walker 317k
    Hurrell 311k
    Sione 299k
    Gray 295k
    Jennings 293k
    Chambers 288k
    Whare 205k
    Idris 194k

    Walker, Hurrell and Idris would be my picks of this lot.
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    Post by Warriors Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:20 pm

    multiple.scoregasms wrote:First Draft:
    Smith, McCullough
    McGuire, JWH, Gurgess, (Hoare)
    Gallen, Hess, Arrow, (Stimpson, Knight, Asiata)
    Norman, Maloney, Sezer, (Elgey)
    Hurrell, Whare, (Idris, Scott)
    RTS, Coote, Hayne, (Uate, Phythian)

    17k left over

    Went a bit to heavy in the backs with Idris and Uate both wasting money on the pine. 2nd row feel light and no real upside in the halves would see me stuck with mid rangers. McGuire being DPP would give the pack a bit of balance.

    Second Draft:

    Smith, Hodgson
    McGuire, JWH, Gurgess, (Hoare)
    Gallen, Cordner, Hess, (Stimpson, Asiata, Capewell)
    Norman, McCrone, Elgey, (Rookie)
    Chambers, Whare, (Idris, Rjennings)

    RTS, Hayne, Uate, (Drew, Phythian)

    44k left over

    Feels a reserve short but got a bit of cash to work with. At this stage Asiata, Hoare or Idris would be 4th reserve unless I upgrade one to Arrow

    I like team 1 much more.
    Like the two gun hooker strategy, is a lot safer than gambling on a rookie.
    Good picks in McGuire and Gurgess. Don't see the love for JWH. If you are wanting value in the Roosters pack pick Nat Butcher in the second row. With Moa gone and TKO out for first five rounds he will be a good little earner I feel.
    Gallen is a good pick if he doesn't get injured. I will look to get him for the first two byes. All value picks if playing and with salary cap tighter I will probably go for players like Arrow, Tevita Pangai Jnr, Nat Butcher etc
    Norman, pretty much the only gun in the Eels averaging near 50. I have him. Not sure on Maloney but with Ennis and Barba gone maybe he picks up again. My feeling is that Chad Townsend is the problem here for his scores.
    All value picks, would much prefer a gun and three rookies than three midrangers.
    Not keen on Uate because he is a winger, I tend to try pick fullbacks or centres. In saying that, he could jag a few tries but doubt Dylan Walker will pass him the ball. Also Coote is a strange pick.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:41 pm

    Warriors wrote:

    I like team 1 much more.
    Like the two gun hooker strategy, is a lot safer than gambling on a rookie.
    Good picks in McGuire and Gurgess. Don't see the love for JWH. If you are wanting value in the Roosters pack pick Nat Butcher in the second row. With Moa gone and TKO out for first five rounds he will be a good little earner I feel.
    Gallen is a good pick if he doesn't get injured. I will look to get him for the first two byes. All value picks if playing and with salary cap tighter I will probably go for players like Arrow, Tevita Pangai Jnr, Nat Butcher etc
    Norman, pretty much the only gun in the Eels averaging near 50. I have him. Not sure on Maloney but with Ennis and Barba gone maybe he picks up again. My feeling is that Chad Townsend is the problem here for his scores.
    All value picks, would much prefer a gun and three rookies than three midrangers.
    Not keen on Uate because he is a winger, I tend to try pick fullbacks or centres. In saying that, he could jag a few tries but doubt Dylan Walker will pass him the ball. Also Coote is a strange pick.


    Definitely going to run with Smith+ gun second Hooker. Not sure if it will be Friend/McCullough/Peats/Hodgson

    I think JWH has a bit of value in him. Coming back from knee injury last year his average minutes, tackles and run metres were similar to 2015. Once JWH returned to the starting spot he averaged 53.5 minutes (including an concussion shortened 19 minute game, average of 57 minutes without that game) for 36.5 points(38.6 when removing injured game) with almost 0 attacking stats (0.8 tackle busts vs 1.4 2015, 0.9 offloads vs 1.73 2015) and nearly doubling his missed tackle rate(3.2 v 1.15 2015). With the loss of Moa I can see JWH returning to previous form. Don't like the Butcher pick. Butcher, Tetevano and Liam Knight will be fighting for 1 spot in the full strength 17 and may be rotated depending on opponent. Full strength Roosters pack will be something like 8.JWH 9. Friend 10.Evans 11.Cordner 12.Guerra 13.Liu 14.Watson/Matterson 15.Aubbo 16.Tauk 17.Butcher/Tetevano/Knight/Carter/Vunaceke
    Hard to tell who will benefit from Tauk's injury from that lot.

    Will probably end up running one of Arrow/Pangai JNR depending on trials and team lists.
    Yeah not very happy with Maloney as I don't see much room for growth but there really aren't many decent options in the values. May lead to running 2 guns McCrone and Elgey to avoid a dead position early.
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    Post by White Lightning Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:58 pm

    I'm going with this atm. Going with no Smith. 12k in bank.
    Luke (C. King/Brailey)
    McGuire, Vaughan, Kasiano (Liam Knight)
    Surgess, Cartwright, K-Brom, A. Glenn, Hess (Stimson)
    SJ, Maloney, Elgey (Hampton)
    Sione Mata'utia, C. Scott (B. Kelly, Drew)
    Cody Walker, RTS, Hayne (R. Jennings, Phythian/Dylan Edwards)

    Just realised I don't have great captaincy choices without C. Smith so I made 2 changes = Luke becomes C. Smith & Cody Walker becomes Holmes.


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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:03 pm

    Warriors wrote:

    Walker, Hurrell and Idris would be my picks of this lot.

    Is Hurrell fit to start the season?
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    Post by Chewie Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:16 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    Is Hurrell fit to start the season?

    He'll miss the nines, but should be ok after that
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    Post by Chewie Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:26 pm

    I'm considering Mitchell Moses as a wildcard, he seems to be improving each season
    2014 avg 21.2
    2015 avg 32.5 (Last 5 avg 42)
    2016 avg 39.4 (Last 5 avg 51.2)
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    Post by White Lightning Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:34 pm

    Chewie wrote:I'm considering Mitchell Moses as a wildcard, he seems to be improving each season
    2014 avg 21.2
    2015 avg 32.5 (Last 5 avg 42)
    2016 avg 39.4 (Last 5 avg 51.2)

    I was looking at him but with souths (a), panthers (h), raiders (a), storm (h) in the first 4 games I can't really see him doing that well. Moses is also error prone & misses tackles so with this early schedule it could result in poor scores.


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    Post by Milchcow Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:34 pm


    For Moses its his scores with/without Farah in the team that are the biggest benefit.

    Now that Farah is 100% out of the picture he could well be a safe option
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    Post by Milchcow Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:36 pm


    Last year. Moses without Farah averaged 44
    Moses with Farah averaged 31
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    Post by White Lightning Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:43 pm

    Hopefully big Jamal will be the Moses bodyguard on the field & protect him from having to make too many tackles.
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    Post by standard-issue Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:49 pm

    I like the idea of Coote bouncing back MS, but only in real life. Couldn't start with him but hopefully he gets his mojo back.
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    Post by Honey Badger Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:20 am

    Chewie wrote:I'm considering Mitchell Moses as a wildcard, he seems to be improving each season
    2014 avg 21.2
    2015 avg 32.5 (Last 5 avg 42)
    2016 avg 39.4 (Last 5 avg 51.2)

    Yeah ive got my eye on him too

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