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    2018 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 7

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    Post by Milchcow Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:57 pm

    my tv broke wrote:I dont care if there are six forwards on the eels bench, I dont think Brown will be spelled for the sake of giving lesser players a run. The coach wants to win games

    This, this, so much this.

    NRL coaches aren't going to randomly rest their best players just because they have a reserve grader in their 29 man squad.

    And Brown's points don't actually increase that much playing the full game anyway. He averages about the same whether he plays 60 minutes or 80.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:59 pm

    Very frustrating not knowing the possible minutes or scoring of either Whitehead or Tapine. Is an 80 minute Tapine better than a 60 minute Whitehead? Probably. But maybe Tapine is subbed and Whitehead plays some time on the edge. I suppose a possibility is to keep something in the bank and be prepared to burn a trade after a couple of weeks of you pick the wrong one.
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    Post by standard-issue Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:01 pm

    Milchcow wrote:
    SI wrote:

    Not sure about the price thing but why they got rid of the drag and drop is beyond me.  

    the App is terrible for player research

    I have no idea why changing the bench system required removing tonnes of existing functionality. The usability of their interface was a big advantage they had over supercoach and now they've gone and nerfed themselves for some reason. Can't even provide a green playing field for my players to stand on (and half of my players are a generic black outline with no actual photo)

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    Post by Archer Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:03 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:Very frustrating not knowing the possible minutes or scoring of either Whitehead or Tapine. Is an 80 minute Tapine better than a 60 minute Whitehead? Probably. But maybe Tapine is subbed and Whitehead plays some time on the edge. I suppose a possibility is to keep something in the bank and be prepared to burn a trade after a couple of weeks of you pick the wrong one.
    My personal bet is that (assuming we don't have 2 genuine hookers) Lock will stay on for 80 and the 2nd rower gets benched for a bit, just because of what i said previously about keeping the middle tight and because I suspect Murchie might start getting some time as the season progresses.
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    Post by standard-issue Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:04 pm

    Archer wrote:
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    I think Archer meant Leek, not Carrot  Very Happy
    Que?
    Definitely meant Carrot, I'm referring to Welshy in my Shite Welsh (thanks shitty articles!), he taught us this one last year for those paying attention at home!

    CD's google search came up with a total of 2 hits. I figured anything written in Welsh AND contained the only semi-useful product that comes out of Wales would get more hits.
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    Post by my tv broke Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:06 pm

    With Raiders bench being utility, Soliola, Bateman, .. gubb/rookie/unknown.. there seems like there has got to be some value around whitehead.

    Who relieves tapine if he only plays 60? Do they carry a edge forward on the bench? A bolter aka murchie? Or..

    Edit: archer basically answered my post before i hit submit..
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    Post by Welshy Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:09 pm

    For those at home...In Welsh....

    Carrot is Moron
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    Post by Mulvy Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:10 pm

    my tv broke wrote:With Raiders bench being utility, Soliola, Bateman, .. gubb/rookie/unknown.. there seems like there has got to be some value around whitehead.

    Who relieves tapine if he only plays 60? Do they carry a edge forward on the bench? A bolter aka murchie? Or..

    Edit: archer basically answered my post before i hit submit..

    Way too much guess work required for me when there are a plethora of 2RF's to choose from. And doesnt play 13.
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    Post by Archer Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:11 pm

    my tv broke wrote:With Raiders bench being utility, Soliola, Bateman, .. gubb/rookie/unknown.. there seems like there has got to be some value around whitehead.

    Who relieves tapine if he only plays 60? Do they carry a edge forward on the bench? A bolter aka murchie? Or..

    Edit: archer basically answered my post before i hit submit..
    Haha yeah i called Murchie specifically because I think in his re-signing article the coaching staff said they expect him to get a shot at 1st grade this year. I'll see if i can dig it up.
    Edit: Here it is https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/02/20/canberra-raiders-re-sign-gun-junior-jack-murchie/
    I mean they only say "a game or two under his belt" but then again if that's their line of thought perhaps they want to carry him on the bench for a couple of weeks with short (10-20min) spells. I dunno, how Ricky's mind works is anyones guess, Taylor started getting a fair few minutes (once he had some fitness) towards the end and some of our other bench forwards really didn't do much for their own place in the side so I can see an opportunity being there.


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    Post by standard-issue Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:14 pm

    Archer wrote:
    SI wrote:

    If Rochow starts and Whitehead doesn't get the Lock possy, then I'd say yes I'd take the chance mate.

    Rochow was tremendous in the trials.  He has proven he can be a gun.  He is DPP FRF/SRF and is $300k cheaper.  I'd take a 40 average out of him and run with the cash grab.  I'd probably actually settle for a 35 average knowing I have 300k to spend elsewhere.

    I haven't looked at B/E's and what cash rises we can expect this year though.  

    If Whitehead is named at Lock I might even pick both  Very Happy .  The thing that will make me nervous though is if ET isn't ready round 1 and then when he comes back Cleary shifts everyone around.

    Ok, be it on your head, might want to ask around a bit first though. I seem to recall there was a guy once who selected Rochow over Whitehead because this was his year and he was going big. We don't talk about that guy anymore, don't know what happened to him.

    Rochow and Whitehead probably shouldn't be actually compared, 2 picks for differing reasons. There are a lot of variables that would need to happen for me to pick Rochow. But I watched both trials and he was very impressive mate, and he is surrounded by a glut of average backrowers. It seems there is much less opportunity to make cash this year.

    In all seriousness, if Rochow is named to start in a full strength Tigers line up then I reckon I would 90% pick him.

    In regards selecting him over Whitehead, that may depend on another variable as well-what exactly your mob do with your bench/hooker set up.
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:15 pm

    rhinoceroo wrote:Very frustrating not knowing the possible minutes or scoring of either Whitehead or Tapine. Is an 80 minute Tapine better than a 60 minute Whitehead? Probably. But maybe Tapine is subbed and Whitehead plays some time on the edge. I suppose a possibility is to keep something in the bank and be prepared to burn a trade after a couple of weeks of you pick the wrong one.


    Camberra played 3 games last year with Tapine at 2nd row and Whitehead at lock

    R23
    Tapine 37 points in 80 minutes
    Whitehead 51 points in 80 minutes

    R24
    Tapine 41 points in 76 minutes
    Whitehead 55 points in 80 minutes

    R25
    Tapine 37 points in 80 minutes
    Whitehead 13 points in 56 minutes (he was sin-binned in this game)


    They were Whitehead's only 3 games at lock
    Tapine played 5 games total in 2nd row, for average of 39 point, and played 76+ minutes each time.
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    Post by Trajan Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:16 pm

    A picture of Murray running freely in training is on NRLSupercoachTalk in the
    Pimp my team thread. Positive signs at least.
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    Post by Welshy Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:16 pm

    SI wrote:

    Rochow and Whitehead probably shouldn't be actually compared, 2 picks for differing reasons.  There are a lot of variables that would need to happen for me to pick Rochow.  But I watched both trials and he was very impressive mate, and he is surrounded by a glut of average backrowers.  It seems there is much less opportunity to make cash this year.  

    In all seriousness, if Rochow is named to start in a full strength Tigers line up then I reckon I would 90% pick him.

    In regards selecting him over Whitehead, that may depend on another variable as well-what exactly your mob do with your bench/hooker set up.
    Rochow would have to maintain a start to produce, if he does he offers excellent value, Whitehead offers plenty of upside, easy to fit both in surely


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    Post by Archer Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:17 pm

    SI wrote:

    Rochow and Whitehead probably shouldn't be actually compared, 2 picks for differing reasons.  There are a lot of variables that would need to happen for me to pick Rochow.  But I watched both trials and he was very impressive mate, and he is surrounded by a glut of average backrowers.  It seems there is much less opportunity to make cash this year.  

    In all seriousness, if Rochow is named to start in a full strength Tigers line up then I reckon I would 90% pick him.

    In regards selecting him over Whitehead, that may depend on another variable as well-what exactly your mob do with your bench/hooker set up.
    Its Welshy, I'm referring to Welshy opting to go with Rochow over Whitehead as a way to have another dig at him old man! Stop trying to take away my fun with your genuine discussion, I'll have none of that!
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    Post by Welshy Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:19 pm

    Archer wrote:
    Its Welshy, I'm referring to Welshy opting to go with Rochow over Whitehead as a way to have another dig at him old man! Stop trying to take away my fun with your genuine discussion, I'll have none of that!

    For the last time I couldn’t afford Shitehead! Was a few thou short! And Rochow produced in the few games before injury Embarassed
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    Post by Archer Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:21 pm

    Also haven't seen it mentioned (it probably has but I've been busy shit talking and "working") but apparently the Hingano deal is apparently a done thing. Interdasting...
    https://twitter.com/brentread_7/status/969097540481069057
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    Post by standard-issue Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:22 pm

    Archer wrote:
    SI wrote:

    Rochow and Whitehead probably shouldn't be actually compared, 2 picks for differing reasons.  There are a lot of variables that would need to happen for me to pick Rochow.  But I watched both trials and he was very impressive mate, and he is surrounded by a glut of average backrowers.  It seems there is much less opportunity to make cash this year.  

    In all seriousness, if Rochow is named to start in a full strength Tigers line up then I reckon I would 90% pick him.

    In regards selecting him over Whitehead, that may depend on another variable as well-what exactly your mob do with your bench/hooker set up.
    Its Welshy, I'm referring to Welshy opting to go with Rochow over Whitehead as a way to have another dig at him old man! Stop trying to take away my fun with your genuine discussion, I'll have none of that!

    Haha, I knew who you meant. There are a couple of things on the forum that will never be let to rest, that is definitely one of them!
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    Post by standard-issue Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:30 pm

    Welshy wrote:
    SI wrote:

    Rochow and Whitehead probably shouldn't be actually compared, 2 picks for differing reasons.  There are a lot of variables that would need to happen for me to pick Rochow.  But I watched both trials and he was very impressive mate, and he is surrounded by a glut of average backrowers.  It seems there is much less opportunity to make cash this year.  

    In all seriousness, if Rochow is named to start in a full strength Tigers line up then I reckon I would 90% pick him.

    In regards selecting him over Whitehead, that may depend on another variable as well-what exactly your mob do with your bench/hooker set up.
    Rochow would have to maintain a start to produce, if he does he offers excellent value, Whitehead offers plenty of upside, easy to fit both in surely

    Soooooo many average backrowers, that could be really good or really bad for him.
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    Post by Enchanted Glossy Flamingo Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:09 am

    I've been struggling with picking between Brown & Murray and Merrin & Whitehead and I think the former is just better. Maybe I just distrust Merrin & Whitehead after last year but I'll only swap back to them if Murray is named on the bench I think.

    Brown might have had a few duds last year but I have a strong memory of him sitting in my team plugging out 60s week after week while the rest of my team was in chaos
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    Post by Warriors Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:25 am

    http://www.5thtackle.com/2018/03/01/robbie-farah-to-find-new-home-before-round-1/

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