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    Post by Milchcow Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:36 pm


    2015 and 2016 stats for those wanting more research

    http://www.mediafire.com/file/fkxlw0139cvc529/2015%20Prozone%20stats.xlsx

    http://www.mediafire.com/file/5dks6icv6339m1d/2016%20Prozone%20stats.xlsx
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    Post by Milchcow Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:39 pm


    Honeybadger's team picker site for those who missed the link
    http://www.azwebsolutions.co.nz/teampicker.php

    Link also added to page 1 of the thread
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    Post by standard-issue Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:42 pm

    Welshy wrote:
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    Very Happy  I too can see Evans tempting me (again) and also have been waiting years for Terepo to show something.

    If there was a time for Evans to show what he can do this is the year, with little infront of him in terms of high class international/origin props like he was faced with at the roosters, now or never for fantasy relevance

    Yeah, Parra's FRF has been very plain the last few years. He could be massive.
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:53 am

    SI wrote:

    Yeah, Parra's FRF has been very plain the last few years.  He could be massive.

    Not sure he goes much over 30 points wise, but priced at 22, some decent cash to be made.

    How you feeling about your Tigers mate?
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:20 am

    Welshy wrote:@MightyFishes

    I would love Welch to get some decent, typical minutes week in week out but they vary too much, if he got anywhere near 40 minutes constantly he would be great as a decent money maker and reserve

    Not sure it changes with Kas and Kaufusi arriving though

    I think PKaufusi is more of a depth signing. I honestly think their bench will be Kas, NAS, Welch, KBrom.

    I was really keen on NAS during the WC but ive since gone cold on him.

    I have no idea but I don't think Hoffman will be playing 80mins and Funicaines mins will slightly decrease and Kas wont be playing big minutes I think he'll be used as a battering ram in short stints with Jbrom, Glasby, NAS and Welch as the main props.

    Again that's personal opinion I really have no idea.

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    Post by standard-issue Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:30 am

    Welshy wrote:
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    Yeah, Parra's FRF has been very plain the last few years.  He could be massive.

    Not sure he goes much over 30 points wise, but priced at 22, some decent cash to be made.

    How you feeling about your Tigers mate?

    REALLY looking forward to seeing what Taane can do. We have been so weak in the Centres for years, and it doesn't help that we haven't had a gun Second Rower out wide since Ellis either. Hopefully Liddle can put a full season together but McIllwrick did a pretty good job; so long as Ivan keeps ET the fuck away from the 9.

    Oh, and Benji to party like it's 2005 Very Happy


    Deadset do much talent with your mob, anything to suggest they can change their attitude? Green should help SJ but not sure what else changes.
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:34 am

    Mighty Fishes wrote:
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    I would love Welch to get some decent, typical minutes week in week out but they vary too much, if he got anywhere near 40 minutes constantly he would be great as a decent money maker and reserve

    Not sure it changes with Kas and Kaufusi arriving though

    I think PKaufusi is more of a depth signing. I honestly think their bench will be Kas, NAS, Welch, KBrom.

    I was really keen on NAS during the WC but ive since gone cold on him.

    I have no idea but I don't think Hoffman will be playing 80mins and Funicaines mins will slightly decrease and Kas wont be playing big minutes I think he'll be used as a battering ram in short stints with Jbrom, Glasby, NAS and Welch as the main props.

    Again that's personal opinion I really have no idea.


    Yeah, unfortunately I think the days of Lord Dale being a solid mid ranger are done. One less bloke for me and Welshy to blame year in year out.
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:01 am

    Mighty Fishes wrote:

    I think PKaufusi is more of a depth signing. I honestly think their bench will be Kas, NAS, Welch, KBrom.

    I was really keen on NAS during the WC but ive since gone cold on him.

    I have no idea but I don't think Hoffman will be playing 80mins and Funicaines mins will slightly decrease and Kas wont be playing big minutes I think he'll be used as a battering ram in short stints with Jbrom, Glasby, NAS and Welch as the main props.

    Again that's personal opinion I really have no idea.


    So many team make up possibilites in that Storm pack without Harris, taking up that 80 minute edge role, hopefully JBrom gets big minutes again because he is full of value at his current price for what he is capable of!
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:10 am

    SI wrote:

    REALLY looking forward to seeing what Taane can do.  We have been so weak in the Centres for years, and it doesn't help that we haven't had a gun Second Rower out wide since Ellis either.  Hopefully Liddle can put a full season together but McIllwrick did a pretty good job; so long as Ivan keeps ET the fuck away from the 9.

    Oh, and Benji to party like it's 2005 Very Happy


    Deadset do much talent with your mob, anything to suggest they can change their attitude?  Green should help SJ but not sure what else changes.

    I have always had a soft spot for the Tigers and Knights so hope they go well this year, I'm especially excited to see how Brown does with some decent talent of his own choosing finally at his disposal!

    Nope, Green is a nice addition in aiding SJ but no point helping Johnson out when your pack is getting crushed everyweek! Front row stocks outside Blair are awful and he will give up after a few weeks of getting smashed around every week! backrow will be decent, I love Harris but we will be constantly on the backfoot
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:28 am

    I thought McGuires scores tailed off, was more he had a poor mid season run

    first 14 round average - 51 (13 games)

    R15-R26 (minus injury affected R17) - 44 (8 games)

    R16, R20, R21 with origin and a DNP inbetween for an avg of 30, this knocked his average down a touch

    dual FR/2RF, could be some value there especially if he elevates without Blair/Easy E
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:46 am

    Welshy wrote:
    SI wrote:

    REALLY looking forward to seeing what Taane can do.  We have been so weak in the Centres for years, and it doesn't help that we haven't had a gun Second Rower out wide since Ellis either.  Hopefully Liddle can put a full season together but McIllwrick did a pretty good job; so long as Ivan keeps ET the fuck away from the 9.

    Oh, and Benji to party like it's 2005 Very Happy


    Deadset do much talent with your mob, anything to suggest they can change their attitude?  Green should help SJ but not sure what else changes.

    I have always had a soft spot for the Tigers and Knights so hope they go well this year, I'm especially excited to see how Brown does with some decent talent of his own choosing finally at his disposal!

    Nope, Green is a nice addition in aiding SJ but no point helping Johnson out when your pack is getting crushed everyweek! Front row stocks outside Blair are awful and he will give up after a few weeks of getting smashed around every week! backrow will be decent, I love Harris but we will be constantly on the backfoot

    Yeah, can see Blair going that way as well. If the Props do manage to stand up though you've got the rest of the park covered.
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    Post by White Lightning Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:49 am

    With all the defense the Warriors will be doing this year I think Mannering will be scoring 55+ easy.
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:31 am


    What we really need to see is how trades will work this year.

    8 teams miss round 13, and the other 8 teams miss round 17.

    If you have 17 players play in round 13, you have 4 rounds to swap 13 of them out if you want a full team in round 17.
    That assumes everyone in your 21 is fit and selected each week, and nobody plays origin.

    And then after round 17 you'll have to quickly trade in any keepers who just had the bye (you can have a max of 4 in your NPRs)

    Unless we get a trade wildcard, fielding 17 in both byes will be night on impossible. At least, even if it is possible, it's probably worthless as you'll have to kill your scores massively in the intervening rounds to do it.


    Origin players also interesting. Unless they get rested after origin, trading them our for a 'bye player' will only get you one more scoring week.
    I'm thinking Cam Smith might get a rest or 2 this year again though, so possibly Jake Friend or someone might come in for him in my team.

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    Post by Chewie Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:44 am

    Milchcow wrote:Team planner updated with missing player stats added
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/t5bib5abkax0t9c/2018%20Team%20Planner%20v0.1.xlsm

    I'd look at it more thoroughly myself, but its easier when I have Chewie doing unpaid Beta testing for me

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    Post by Chewie Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:45 am

    Good to see the crew back online!
    Welcome to the 2018 thread!
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    Post by Welshy Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:30 am

    Dylan Edwards I think could enter the fantasy WFB elite this year, only scored 1 try last year and still averaged over 45, got shafted plenty on the lack of TBs like CWalker used to as well! If Sandeep and Ganesh can sort their shit out and give him those Ponga/Tedesco calls, he could really fire
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    Post by Mulvy Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:28 am

    List of DPP players I will just leave here for reference:

    Tyrone Peachey: 2RF, CTR, $503,000
    Tyrone May: HLF, 2RF, $448,000
    Bryce Cartwright: 2RF, HLF, $325,000
    Dean Whare: CTR, WFB, $287,000
    Sione Katoa: HOK, 2RF, $228,000
    David Klemmer: FRF, 2RF, $640,000
    Will Hopoate: WFB, CTR, $607,000
    Renouf Toomaga: CTR, 2RF, $212,000
    Kerrod Holland: CTR, WFB, $441,000
    Fa'amanu Brown: HLF, HOK, $372,000
    Moses Mbye: HLF, WFB, $558,000
    Tyrone Taukamo: CTR,WFB, $212,000
    Cody Walker: HLF, WFB, $627,000
    Tyrell Fuimaono: CTR, 2RF, $494,000
    Robert Jennings: CTR, WFB, $395,000
    Richard Kennar: CTR, WFB, $228,000
    Jesse Martin: 2RF, HOK, $212,000
    Mawene Hiroti: CTR,WFB, $212,000
    Dane Gagai: CTR, WFB, $631,000
    Patrick Sipley: 2RF, FRF, $212,000
    Agnatius Paasi: FRF, 2RF, $371,000
    Jazz Tevaga: HOK, 2RF, $360,000
    Gerard Beale: CTR, WFB, $322,000
    Peta Hiku: CTR, WFB, $283,000
    David Fusitua: WFB, CTR, $423,000
    Nene Macdonald: WFB, CTR, $512,000
    Kurt Mann: WFB, HLF, $510,000
    Jacob Host: FRF, 2RF, $327,000
    Hame Sele: 2RF, FRF, $267,000
    Mitchell Allgood: FRF,2RF, $228,000
    Patrick Herbert: CTR,WFB, $212,000
    Jordan Pereira: CTR,WFB, $212,000
    Zac Lomax: CTR,WFB, $212,000
    Tristan Sailor: WFB,HLF, $212,000
    Clinton Gutherson: WFB, HLF, $651,000
    Jarryd Hayne: WFB, CTR, $448,000
    Kirisome Auva'a: WFB, CTR, $404,000
    Will Smith: HLF, WFB, $404,000
    Josh Hoffman: WFB, CTR, $308,000
    Nathan Davis: CTR, WFB, $246,000
    Greg Leleisiuao: WFB,CTR, $212,000
    George Jennings: CTR, WFB, $212,000
    Martin Taupau: 2RF, FRF, $757,000
    Apisai Koroisau: HOK, HLF, $631,000
    Matthew Wright: WFB, CTR, $434,000
    Lewis Brown: 2RF, CTR, $228,000
    Cameron Cullen: HLF, HOK, $228,000
    Ryan James: FRF, 2RF, $700,000
    Jarrod Wallace: FRF, 2RF, $642,000
    Max King: FRF, 2RF, $462,000
    Tony Mata'utia: 2RF, CTR, $212,000
    Karl Lawton: CTR, HOK, $322,000
    Dan Sarginson: WFB, CTR, $299,000
    Jamal Fogarty: WFB, HLF, $228,000
    Alexander Brimson: HLF, WFB, $212,000
    Dale Copley: WFB, CTR, $392,000
    Josh McGuire: 2RF, FRF, $679,000
    Kodi Nikorima: HLF, HOK, $545,000
    Jamayne Isaako: CTR, WFB, $228,000
    Jordan Kahu: WFB, CTR, $403,000
    George Fai: 2RF, FRF, $321,000
    Sam Thaiday: 2RF, FRF, $452,000
    Josh Dugan: WFB, CTR, $605,000
    Matt Moylan: WFB, HLF, $501,000
    Kurt Capewell: 2RF, CTR, $494,000
    Aaron Gray: WFB, CTR, $360,000
    Briton Nikora: 2RF, CTR, $212,000
    Robbie Rochow: 2RF, FRF, $312,000
    Tuimoala Lolohea: HLF, WFB, $612,000
    Alex Twal: FRF, 2RF, $586,000
    Esan Marsters: 2RF, CTR, $523,000
    Moses Suli: CTR, WFB, $455,000
    Sauaso Sue: 2RF, FRF, $420,000
    Michael Chee-Kam: 2RF, CTR, $379,000
    Kevin Naiqama: CTR, WFB, $376,000
    Matthew Eisenhuth: FRF, 2RF, $644,000
    Jamie Buhrer: 2RF, HOK, $659,000
    Sione Mata'utia: 2RF, CTR, $512,000
    Shaun Kenny-Dowall: CTR, WFB, $441,000
    Luke Yates: 2RF, FRF, $425,000
    Connor Watson: HLF, HOK, $401,000
    Slade Griffin: 2RF, HOK, $382,000
    Jacob Saifiti: 2RF, FRF, $364,000
    Christian Hazard: HLF, HOK, $212,000
    Josh Papalii: 2RF, FRF, $726,000
    Nick Cotric: CTR, WFB, $560,000
    Bill Cullen: 2RF,FRF, $212,000
    Erin Clark: HLF, HOK, $228,000
    Makahesi Makatoa: 2RF, FRF, $212,000
    Royce Hunt: FRF, 2RF, $228,000
    Mitchell Aubusson: 2RF, CTR, $573,000
    Brock Gray: FRF, 2RF, $212,000
    Latrell Mitchell: WFB, CTR, $556,000
    Isaac Liu: FRF, 2RF, $515,000
    Blake Ferguson: WFB, CTR, $483,000
    Joseph Manu: WFB, CTR, $402,000
    Ryan Matterson: HLF, 2RF, $559,000
    Scott Bolton: 2RF, FRF, $606,000
    Shaun Fensom: 2RF, FRF, $475,000
    Javid Bowen: CTR, WFB, $449,000
    John Asiata: 2RF, FRF, $381,000
    Corey Jensen: FRF, 2RF, $297,000
    Ben Hampton: HLF, HOK, $285,000
    Justin Olam: WFB, CTR, $212,000
    Young Tonumaipea: WFB, CTR, $415,000
    Jahrome Hughes: WFB, HLF, $403,000
    Nelson Asofa-Solomona: 2RF, FRF, $481,000


    Out of those I like Gagai and Cartwright
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:53 am

    mulvy wrote:List of DPP players I will just leave here for reference:

    Tyrone Peachey: 2RF, CTR, $503,000
    Tyrone May: HLF, 2RF, $448,000
    Bryce Cartwright: 2RF, HLF, $325,000
    Dean Whare: CTR, WFB, $287,000
    Sione Katoa: HOK, 2RF, $228,000
    David Klemmer: FRF, 2RF, $640,000
    Will Hopoate: WFB, CTR, $607,000
    Renouf Toomaga: CTR, 2RF, $212,000
    Kerrod Holland: CTR, WFB, $441,000
    Fa'amanu Brown: HLF, HOK, $372,000
    Moses Mbye: HLF, WFB, $558,000
    Tyrone Taukamo: CTR,WFB, $212,000
    Cody Walker: HLF, WFB, $627,000
    Tyrell Fuimaono: CTR, 2RF, $494,000
    Robert Jennings: CTR, WFB, $395,000
    Richard Kennar: CTR, WFB, $228,000
    Jesse Martin: 2RF, HOK, $212,000
    Mawene Hiroti: CTR,WFB, $212,000
    Dane Gagai: CTR, WFB, $631,000
    Patrick Sipley: 2RF, FRF, $212,000
    Agnatius Paasi: FRF, 2RF, $371,000
    Jazz Tevaga: HOK, 2RF, $360,000
    Gerard Beale: CTR, WFB, $322,000
    Peta Hiku: CTR, WFB, $283,000
    David Fusitua: WFB, CTR, $423,000
    Nene Macdonald: WFB, CTR, $512,000
    Kurt Mann: WFB, HLF, $510,000
    Jacob Host: FRF, 2RF, $327,000
    Hame Sele: 2RF, FRF, $267,000
    Mitchell Allgood: FRF,2RF, $228,000
    Patrick Herbert: CTR,WFB, $212,000
    Jordan Pereira: CTR,WFB, $212,000
    Zac Lomax: CTR,WFB, $212,000
    Tristan Sailor: WFB,HLF, $212,000
    Clinton Gutherson: WFB, HLF, $651,000
    Jarryd Hayne: WFB, CTR, $448,000
    Kirisome Auva'a: WFB, CTR, $404,000
    Will Smith: HLF, WFB, $404,000
    Josh Hoffman: WFB, CTR, $308,000
    Nathan Davis: CTR, WFB, $246,000
    Greg Leleisiuao: WFB,CTR, $212,000
    George Jennings: CTR, WFB, $212,000
    Martin Taupau: 2RF, FRF, $757,000
    Apisai Koroisau: HOK, HLF, $631,000
    Matthew Wright: WFB, CTR, $434,000
    Lewis Brown: 2RF, CTR, $228,000
    Cameron Cullen: HLF, HOK, $228,000
    Ryan James: FRF, 2RF, $700,000
    Jarrod Wallace: FRF, 2RF, $642,000
    Max King: FRF, 2RF, $462,000
    Tony Mata'utia: 2RF, CTR, $212,000
    Karl Lawton: CTR, HOK, $322,000
    Dan Sarginson: WFB, CTR, $299,000
    Jamal Fogarty: WFB, HLF, $228,000
    Alexander Brimson: HLF, WFB, $212,000
    Dale Copley: WFB, CTR, $392,000
    Josh McGuire: 2RF, FRF, $679,000
    Kodi Nikorima: HLF, HOK, $545,000
    Jamayne Isaako: CTR, WFB, $228,000
    Jordan Kahu: WFB, CTR, $403,000
    George Fai: 2RF, FRF, $321,000
    Sam Thaiday: 2RF, FRF, $452,000
    Josh Dugan: WFB, CTR, $605,000
    Matt Moylan: WFB, HLF, $501,000
    Kurt Capewell: 2RF, CTR, $494,000
    Aaron Gray: WFB, CTR, $360,000
    Briton Nikora: 2RF, CTR, $212,000
    Robbie Rochow: 2RF, FRF, $312,000
    Tuimoala Lolohea: HLF, WFB, $612,000
    Alex Twal: FRF, 2RF, $586,000
    Esan Marsters: 2RF, CTR, $523,000
    Moses Suli: CTR, WFB, $455,000
    Sauaso Sue: 2RF, FRF, $420,000
    Michael Chee-Kam: 2RF, CTR, $379,000
    Kevin Naiqama: CTR, WFB, $376,000
    Matthew Eisenhuth: FRF, 2RF, $644,000
    Jamie Buhrer: 2RF, HOK, $659,000
    Sione Mata'utia: 2RF, CTR, $512,000
    Shaun Kenny-Dowall: CTR, WFB, $441,000
    Luke Yates: 2RF, FRF, $425,000
    Connor Watson: HLF, HOK, $401,000
    Slade Griffin: 2RF, HOK, $382,000
    Jacob Saifiti: 2RF, FRF, $364,000
    Christian Hazard: HLF, HOK, $212,000
    Josh Papalii: 2RF, FRF, $726,000
    Nick Cotric: CTR, WFB, $560,000
    Bill Cullen: 2RF,FRF, $212,000
    Erin Clark: HLF, HOK, $228,000
    Makahesi Makatoa: 2RF, FRF, $212,000
    Royce Hunt: FRF, 2RF, $228,000
    Mitchell Aubusson: 2RF, CTR, $573,000
    Brock Gray: FRF, 2RF, $212,000
    Latrell Mitchell: WFB, CTR, $556,000
    Isaac Liu: FRF, 2RF, $515,000
    Blake Ferguson: WFB, CTR, $483,000
    Joseph Manu: WFB, CTR, $402,000
    Ryan Matterson: HLF, 2RF, $559,000
    Scott Bolton: 2RF, FRF, $606,000
    Shaun Fensom: 2RF, FRF, $475,000
    Javid Bowen: CTR, WFB, $449,000
    John Asiata: 2RF, FRF, $381,000
    Corey Jensen: FRF, 2RF, $297,000
    Ben Hampton: HLF, HOK, $285,000
    Justin Olam: WFB, CTR, $212,000
    Young Tonumaipea: WFB, CTR, $415,000
    Jahrome Hughes: WFB, HLF, $403,000
    Nelson Asofa-Solomona: 2RF, FRF, $481,000


    Out of those I like Gagai and Cartwright

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    Post by standard-issue Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:55 am

    Welshy wrote:Dylan Edwards I think could enter the fantasy WFB elite this year, only scored 1 try last year and still averaged over 45, got shafted plenty on the lack of TBs like CWalker used to as well! If Sandeep and Ganesh can sort their shit out and give him those Ponga/Tedesco calls, he could really fire

    Only 1 try, holy fuck! Although the worry is he continues to get shafted on TB's and someone like Ponga continues to get ghosties.
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    Post by Mulvy Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:00 pm

    Has there been any mention on how many trades there will be? I'm just trying to get my head around how much a trade is worth. Previously you might say for example that you want your cows to make about 100k (about a ten point improvement) to make the trade worthwhile. A ten point improvement with the magic number of 14645 means you would want close to a 150k improvement, but it won't be as simple as that because of the new bye schedule and how many trades they end up giving us. More importantly for now though, I wonder how much of an improvement I should be looking for? Someone priced 10 under what I think they'll get? More? Thoughts?

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