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    Post by Loomer Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:26 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:If Ilias scores a 35 average from here on in, how much cash does he make? It is gonna be a slow and inconsistent rise isn't it?

    If I can afford a higher-priced value who is gonna make similar coin what's the harm in upgrading?

    If MN is 14000 then $190k

    Did you see the try disallowed because of illegal block Souths player and didn't affect try but still not awarded? He scores 45 at least with that allowed. Rabbits sick run mad to flick him now
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    Post by the_great_wobbler Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:28 pm

    I wonder if everyone would still be mad at Fifita if he'd scored a "lazy" try or 2. Would they be concerned that his base stats weren't sufficient to justify his price tag?

    He's always been lazy.
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:29 pm

    Loomer wrote:Ilias looked good last game and was Panthers.

    No issue playing him over Schneider this week

    Maybe you are right? I have Cotter envy. The only other player to consider trading out is Leo Thompson and he is still making good coin
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:31 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    Who's your outs?

    I'm still wrestling with the idea of punting Sexton for Cleary or just waiting a week and doing JKing to Cleary.

    Need to cool it on trades.

    Katoa and Amone for me are two no brainer outs
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    Post by The Dolphin Conspiracies Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:31 pm

    the_great_wobbler wrote:I wonder if everyone would still be mad at Fifita if he'd scored a "lazy" try or 2. Would they be concerned that his base stats weren't sufficient to justify his price tag?

    He's always been lazy.

    If I had not have traded him out last week, I would not have enjoyed death riding him so much last week. I will think long and hard about this decision at least a few times this year. But I think overall it was wise.
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    Post by ForanAgainst Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:44 pm

    Is it best to wait and see how Koula goes? How much of a factor will the weather play? Apologies if these questions have already been asked.
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:44 pm

    the_great_wobbler wrote:I wonder if everyone would still be mad at Fifita if he'd scored a "lazy" try or 2. Would they be concerned that his base stats weren't sufficient to justify his price tag?

    He's always been lazy.
    I’m selling DaFita because he is lazy and his name isn’t Haas, Murray, or Cleary.
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    Post by WT Winfield Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:53 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:If Ilias scores a 35 average from here on in, how much cash does he make? It is gonna be a slow and inconsistent rise isn't it? He just loves missed tackles?

    If I can afford a higher-priced value who is gonna make similar coin what's the harm in upgrading?

    I dunno about a 35 average for Ilias, I hope he can, but he's gonna have to score over 35 a few times first. A 30 average sees him make another 120k.

    Using a trade to get someone that costs more and will make similar cash sounds like burning a trade and wasting money though. If it's someone you plan on playing every week with the confidence of not looping, then it could be worth it.
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    Post by Rabbits21 Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:53 pm

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    Me in regards to not having got on Taylan May!
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    Post by Jumping Marlin Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:58 pm

    With all the Fifita is lazy comments I thought it might be fun to take a quick look and compare his stats to other 80min second rowers. Perhaps the most unexpected finding was that his tackles per minute is up 10% compared to 2021.

    In terms of running metres:
    > in 2022, he is behind iPap and Friz.  But ahead of Lucy, Fermor, Aitken, CHN, Nikora, Lane, Tupouniua.
    > So nothing really wrong with his run metres to say he is lazy.
    > His metres per minutes is down on last year by around 15%, but the whole comp is down this year.

    Tackles per match in 2022:
    > Fifita is lower than every single one of the players I looked at.  He's at 26 tackles per match, just under Lucy & Tupouniua at 27.  Quite a few around the 30 mark - so 'only' 4 tackles per match behind typical second rower.  [Nikora the stand out with 39].
    > His tackles per minute is up about 10% on 2021

    I don't have stats for "work off the ball", which I think some of the comments have been aimed at.
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    Post by filthridden Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:58 pm

    In regards to Ilias - if the rabbits keep losing games, who is going to be the scapegoat?
    In the spine, it's certainly not going to be Latrell, Cody or Murray.

    Is his job really that secure?

    Rabbitohs have won one from four and looking likely to miss the eight - how many more losses before the coach is forced to change things up?

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    Post by Rabbits21 Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:59 pm

    Keep in mind Souths draw has been very hard. If we win this week it could start a bit of a run.

    Ilias has played well too. The 3 games we lost we completed at 63percent not Ilias fault.
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    Post by my tv broke Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:02 pm

    Jumping Marlin wrote:With all the Fifita is lazy comments I thought it might be fun to take a quick look and compare his stats to other 80min second rowers. Perhaps the most unexpected finding was that his tackles per minute is up 10% compared to 2021.

    In terms of running metres:
    > in 2022, he is behind iPap and Friz.  But ahead of Lucy, Fermor, Aitken, CHN, Nikora, Lane, Tupouniua.
    > So nothing really wrong with his run metres to say he is lazy.
    > His metres per minutes is down on last year by around 15%, but the whole comp is down this year.

    Tackles per match in 2022:
    > Fifita is lower than every single one of the players I looked at.  He's at 26 tackles per match, just under Lucy & Tupouniua at 27.  Quite a few around the 30 mark - so 'only' 4 tackles per match behind typical second rower.  [Nikora the stand out with 39].
    > His tackles per minute is up about 10% on 2021

    I don't have stats for "work off the ball", which I think some of the comments have been aimed at.

    fifita will make his tackles - but teams have also worked out that they send plenty of traffic his way and he tires easily.

    his actual base stats are fine, as you said, but he doesn't work hard off the ball, nor does he make effort on effort. eg if he slips off a tackle he will get up and jog back for the next set rather than try to help his teammates out ont he live play. same again, if someone makes a break he doesn't follow the ball. plenty of other second rowers are similar, though, but we are pretty focussed on fifita, for fantasy reasons. and because he's on 1.25 mil a season.


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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:03 pm

    filthridden wrote:In regards to Ilias - if the rabbits keep losing games, who is going to be the scapegoat?
    In the spine, it's certainly not going to be Latrell, Cody or Murray.

    Is his job really that secure?

    Rabbitohs have won one from four and looking likely to miss the eight - how many more losses before the coach is forced to change things up?


    I won't be surprised to see Latrell at 6 with Taafe at fullback before the end of the season
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    Post by filthridden Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:03 pm

    sorry I missed the tongue in cheek emoji or whatever I was supposed to finish that post off with.
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    Post by my tv broke Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:05 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    fifita will make his tackles - but teams have also worked out that they send plenty of traffic his way and he tires easily.

    his actual base stats are fine, as you said, but he doesn't work hard off the ball, nor does he make effort on effort. eg if he slips off a tackle he will get up and jog back for the next set rather than try to help his teammates out ont he live play. same again, if someone makes a break he doesn't follow the ball. plenty of other second rowers are similar, though, but we are pretty focussed on fifita, for fantasy reasons. and because he's on 1.25 mil a season.

    in saying this if Lenui Cleary wasn't on the menu, I'd probably be grabbing Fifita this or next week.
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    Post by The Bludger#2 Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:06 pm

    mattnz wrote:
    1) looks like an easy trade to make.

    Definitely wouldn't trade out Mann. Note that he is #9 on the Who's Hot list with over 1% of teams trading him in this week.
    Agree on not trading out Mann, I'm getting the main Mann in for Clifford.
    New avatar on the horizon for the Bludgers. Anyone got a suggestion?
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:10 pm

    my tv broke wrote:

    in saying this if Lenui Cleary wasn't on the menu, I'd probably be grabbing Fifita this or next week.

    I thought he was over valued to start the year but now probably appropriate value. Few more games without a try and he will be a great option
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    Post by Loomer Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:10 pm

    The Dolphin Conspiracies wrote:

    Maybe you are right? I have Cotter envy. The only other player to consider trading out is Leo Thompson and he is still making good coin

    Cotter envy misplaced if starts on bench
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    Post by filthridden Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:11 pm

    My team for the week:

    OUT: Sexton, Clark
    IN: Cleary, Koula

    Randall
    Hass, MKing, Mann
    Nanai, BroJo
    Cleary (c), Schneider
    Tago, Aitken
    Hynes, Papenhuyzen, Crichton

    Koula, Starling, Burton, DFifita

    LThompson, Coates, Ilias, Vailea (will use him to loop Koula if he isn't in the Warriors 19)
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