NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 22 - How do you solve a problem like Fifita?

White Lightning wrote:

Cleary next 3 games = bulldogs, BRONCOS, RAIDERS
Cook next 3 games = DRAGONS, BULLDOGS, wests

Cleary v Cook will be my decision this week

Cook Grant or Starling in for Fifita might be my trade next week to give me 2nd HOK

easytiger wrote:

Yeah, I more meant a head scratcher in terms of in retrospect.

I don't think there's any information prior to the season beginning that could've made him a questionable selection, it's just a genuine unpredictable performance change.

Mahoney owners definitely have my sympathies

Thanks mate.

It’s funny because he’s clearly a better, more rounded player now but it just doesn’t translate. Like could you pass less 20m pinpoint bullets to your halves and make 15 more tackles please?

Last season Cleary scored 82 and 72 vs Bulldogs which sounds amazing but it’s actually his 3rd and equal 5th lowest scores.

Other low scores were Tigers (59), Sea Eagles (61), Dragins (74), Eels (82)

Similarly no obvious pattern for large scores.

In conclusion every time someone mentions good/bad draw, “player x will go huge/struggle against oppo y”, I die a little inside. I think it basically one of the least useful things to worry about in rugby league fantasy.

Based on MTB's site I'll have enough money in round 5 to go:
D. Fifita & Vailea out - Cook & T. May in (49k left over)

Cook could be Grant with more bank but Cook at 80 mins probably wins assuming Grant does not play 80 mins as he builds match fitness.

robelgordo wrote:Last season Cleary scored 82 and 72 vs Bulldogs which sounds amazing but it’s actually his 3rd and equal 5th lowest scores.

Other low scores were Tigers (59), Sea Eagles (61), Dragins (74), Eels (82)

Similarly no obvious pattern for large scores.

In conclusion every time someone mentions good/bad draw, “player x will go huge/struggle against oppo y”, I die a little inside. I think it basically one of the least useful things to worry about in rugby league fantasy.

I agree league is not the type of game where fixtures are relevant. I think this is the influence of fpl where fixtures are very important re player picks. I'd say in SC fixtures are more relevant due to the scoring system where you get a lot of points for scoring tries, etc.

ytsb wrote:Personally, I am blaming the forum for making me have Fifita, Mahoney, and Crichton to start, and for making me bring in Cleary this week. It's a lot easier that way.

I also can't believe groupthink put Cleary in my side and captained him

White Lightning wrote:

I agree league is not the type of game where fixtures are relevant. I think this is the influence of fpl where fixtures are very important re player picks. I'd say in SC fixtures are more relevant due to the scoring system where you get a lot of points for scoring tries, etc.

Yeah FPL definitely fixtures are important because the scoring is so simple.

Don’t play SC but have heard it’s more skewed towards attacking stats so makes sense fixtures matter there too.

For those of you smart enough not to have Cleary when do you bring him in? His price is gonna be dropping like a stone going 40 under his be but could ton up at anytime. If he has a few more quiet games it’s season over for me but knew that was the case when I got him

The departure of Clint has definitely improved Cooks runni g game

I’m loving how tough this year is. Seems a lot of obvious fantasy rules aren’t holding true

Krump wrote:For those of you smart enough not to have Cleary when do you bring him in? His price is gonna be dropping like a stone going 40 under his be but could ton up at anytime. If he has a few more quiet games it’s season over for me but knew that was the case when I got him

Have to wait game to game now. Pretty much have to wait for after big score next few games

robelgordo wrote:Last season Cleary scored 82 and 72 vs Bulldogs which sounds amazing but it’s actually his 3rd and equal 5th lowest scores.

Other low scores were Tigers (59), Sea Eagles (61), Dragins (74), Eels (82)

Similarly no obvious pattern for large scores.

In conclusion every time someone mentions good/bad draw, “player x will go huge/struggle against oppo y”, I die a little inside. I think it basically one of the least useful things to worry about in rugby league fantasy.

I checked the tea leaves this morning and Cleary is in for a big one.

Cleary breaking out a 44 has really put the wind up some people and put the cat among the pigeons, what other metaphors, um, anyway 'stats stats stats' ...... mean nothing...Buy in Cleary when he has bottomed out and stick him in all year, it's not rocket science.

Here is a link to a BE/Price forecast projector for those interested https://app.rugbyleaguefantasypro.com/fantasy/price-forecast

ytsb wrote:Personally, I am blaming the forum for making me have Fifita, Mahoney, and Crichton to start, and for making me bring in Cleary this week. It's a lot easier that way.

Uh Oh, we groupthunk you into those choices.

I only started with Fifita of those 3, but I think even people who started without him have been surprised at how much he has dropped off this year

Loomer wrote:Any ideas roughly what Cleary BE will be next week? Will be tough decision to bring him or wait as could easily go huge against Dogs

95, give or take a few points

Even though the Cleary trade backfired, my team isnt scoring that well atm, but close to what I originally wanted.

Auditions for a edge or mid around 400 k this round.

robelgordo wrote:Last season Cleary scored 82 and 72 vs Bulldogs which sounds amazing but it’s actually his 3rd and equal 5th lowest scores.

Other low scores were Tigers (59), Sea Eagles (61), Dragins (74), Eels (82)

Similarly no obvious pattern for large scores.

In conclusion every time someone mentions good/bad draw, “player x will go huge/struggle against oppo y”, I die a little inside. I think it basically one of the least useful things to worry about in rugby league fantasy.

I think there's a very small merit to it.
Some roles are largely immune, Hookers, controlling halves, edges typically too.
Most wings and fullbacks typically have a little uptick with "easier" opposition - but it's still an on average scenario and a one off game is never guaranteed.
Then there's the odd individual player scenario e.g. Moses is a renowned flat track bully or Munster who is the opposite and would only get up for the big games - both seem to have gotten a little more balanced lately.

Welshy wrote:

Horses for courses mate. Mahoney will come right

Meant to say the tee arrived week or so ago! Hasn’t been able to use it due to the hand fracture but he’s aiming to be back for the league QTR game so will send over over photos of the tee ‘working’ when they batter the CAS boys. His words not mine, he’s really grateful mate so thank you again

Get the pics of the tee in the warm up cos they ain't gonna be kicking goals against the Cas boys

Antipodean1 wrote:Cleary breaking out a 44 has really put the wind up some people and put the cat among the pigeons, what other metaphors, um, anyway 'stats stats stats' ...... mean nothing...Buy in Cleary when he has bottomed out and stick him in all year, it's not rocket science.

Here is a link to a BE/Price forecast projector for those interested https://app.rugbyleaguefantasypro.com/fantasy/price-forecast

Lol that's Butter's site who insisted Cleary BE was 67