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    NRL Fantasy 2022 Part 17 is the new 50

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    Post by filthridden Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:35 am

    Kurt Mann:

    Rd1: 61min, 31tackles, 65m
    Rd2: 61min, 29tackles, 78m

    Whatever injury he has/had in round 2, it didn't effect his minutes or his output.
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    Post by mattnz Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:37 am

    filthridden wrote:Kurt Mann:

    Rd1: 61min, 31tackles, 65m
    Rd2: 61min, 29tackles, 78m

    Whatever injury he has/had in round 2, it didn't effect his minutes or his output.

    PYTM was saying with his injured ribs he wasn't running into contact, just shuffling the ball along the line.
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    Post by hymenbustas Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:37 am

    Holzman wrote:have been on Leo + Starling all week but still missing Tago.

    TU: Tago - most likely get in Starling next week
    TD: Starling - pass on Tago

    have cover on every line regardless of what move i make.

    Same predicament. Leo is in for Uto. Tempted to trade out Mahoney for Starling or Tago. No one on my team are generating cash and im not producing any decent score either so might as well go for broke.

    Who are you trading out?
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    Post by Shady2K Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:38 am

    Holzman wrote:have been on Leo + Starling all week but still missing Tago.

    TU: Tago - most likely get in Starling next week
    TD: Starling - pass on Tago

    have cover on every line regardless of what move i make.

    Think this is the absolute last week to get Tago. Starling has a 30 BE and uncertainty with Frawley on the bench, you can wait a week and see how it plays out. Unless he scores a ton he's not gonna go up much
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:40 am

    lukeayee wrote:

    Cash gen is a massive issue right now.

    Balancing score with cash generation is always key, but seems really difficult for me this year.

    I think it's the lack of base priced cows

    In previous years we have a couple of guys at base or <50k above base that land starting roles and punch out 30-40s for some easy money

    This year the "good" cows started 100k above base so need way more points to make the same cash

    This is probably a symptom of no reserve grade comp for a few years (no young guys bashing the door down so stick with an established plodder)

    We might see this rectify with injuries in the next few weeks but atm it's slim pickings
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    Post by Antipodean1 Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:42 am

    I am not convinced on Starling or Leo, I am happy to wait and see on Starling, his BE is average.

    I have opted for Burton and Bird and removed Nanai (the demerit king) and Dfifi (who I think is lacking fitness/involvement).

    I am keeping ACrichton to see if he gets good middle impact, but he could be a bust, but will use him to go for Cleary.
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    Post by Reklaw Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:44 am

    Shady2K wrote:

    What are your thoughts on Yeo and Curran mate? I can't split them atm. I like Curran's upside with DPP, attacking stats and first bye - but Yeo's 80 minutes and consistent work-rate is appealing too (just for how long)



    Giving him another week. Flicking Angus instead. If he stinks up again though then he's my ticket to Cleary

    Yeah, I'm torn on this. I think both are good options. Does Katoa go back to the bench or Aitken to centre when Tofu comes back?

    They will both get somewhere in that 60-70 minute range over the year. Curran plays round 13, has DPP, and loves an offload. Yeo only averaged .2 offloads last year but has 4 in two games. Similar thing to Haas, is that an expansion of his game this season or an anomaly. Yeo has been on fire for the panthers and playing 80, it wont keep up. Curran seems the better pick, but I find it hard to pass on Yeo. I just like watching him play more.
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    Post by The Bludger#2 Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:48 am

    Antipodean1 wrote:I am not convinced on Starling or Leo, I am happy to wait and see on Starling, his BE is average.

    I have opted for Burton and Bird and removed Nanai (the demerit king) and Dfifi (who I think is lacking fitness/involvement).

    I am keeping ACrichton to see if he gets good middle impact, but he could be a bust, but will use him to go for Cleary.
    What I love about you Antipodean1 is when you decide to make a play in Fantasy you do it with HUGE  Balls
    This will either end very badly for you - or we will all STAND AND APPLAUD you for playing so well.
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    Post by filthridden Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:48 am

    mattnz wrote:

    PYTM was saying with his injured ribs he wasn't running into contact, just shuffling the ball along the line.

    AH OK, sorry I missed that one. Thanks for letting me know. Could explain not having as many attacking stats.
    Hopefully they return this week or at least his score breaks 40, however that happens.
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    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:48 am

    Think I’ll leave the team this week. Go on a holiday if you will.

    Happy birthday SI
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    Post by mrbrownstone Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:51 am

    Pretty happy with Russell -> Thompson as one trade, still umming and ahhing on the other:

    a) Lolo -> Starling + 248k Cleary bank, clear path to get him via Mahoney and cashing down Bully/Tuilagi, leaves me having to play two of Thompson/Coates/Ilias/Bully this week though.

    b) Lolo -> Sexton + 76k, no clear plan to get Cleary, probably have to trade Mahoney + Pap?

    c) Vailea -> May + 11k, clear out the red dots, move on Lolo + Mahoney next week to afford Cleary

    d) Bully -> Starling + 2k, stronger team for this week with a bench of Randall, Starling, King and one of Thompson/Coates/Ilias, move on Lolo + Mahoney next week to afford Cleary unless one of them tons up.

    Had been pretty set on A and building up some cash, but when I lay it out like that, D is tempting. Probably a stronger bench for this week and still a decent plan to get Cleary in. Worried about moving too early on Bully though. Thoughts?
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    Post by easytiger Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:53 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    When you think about it, it does seem strange that the most popular cheapie this week is a guy who scored 15 points in 25 minutes in round 1

    Honestly, this smells more like last years Alvaro then it does this years Ming.

    TBH I haven't seen the guy play, and maybe he's the goods, but I can't help but wonder if people have Mat King tinted glasses on and his first NRL game doesn't really count, but the 45 in 38 mins is closer to the expectation.

    It's cool he's $250k, but suspect the real upside is relatively meh ($100-150k) given that there's a legitimate risk of it ending up being an unplayable $50k flop - but just my opinion FWIW.
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    Post by Ramitinmyhaaas Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:54 am

    Pap goal-kicking at training so should be back to full time goal kicker
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    Post by Holzman Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:55 am

    hymenbustas wrote:

    Same predicament. Leo is in for Uto. Tempted to trade out Mahoney for Starling or Tago. No one on my team are generating cash and im not producing any decent score either so might as well go for broke.

    Who are you trading out?

    Im either trading out Mahoney Russell or Tualigi Bullemore

    since im warming to Tago i think ill keep Mahoney and then if Mahoney doesnt go big then Mahoney to Starling the week after. If I bring in Starling and forget Tago i think ill move Mahoney this week just as no cover.

    Issue is Mahoney has a BE of 68 so loses 27k if he gets his average of 43. Can make that up though with good cash generation though and we know Mahoney is capable of reaching that BE or at least coming somewhat close.

    dont like paying 90k more for Tago but if he keeps up good scores then will fall behind the pack. Only reason i dropped him was though Panthers without Cleary wouldnt go as well. Panthers are going well and Cleary is back in soon.
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    Post by mattnz Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:59 am

    easytiger wrote:

    Honestly, this smells more like last years Alvaro then it does this years Ming.

    TBH I haven't seen the guy play, and maybe he's the goods, but I can't help but wonder if people have Mat King tinted glasses on and his first NRL game doesn't really count, but the 45 in 38 mins is closer to the expectation.

    It's cool he's $250k, but suspect the real upside is relatively meh ($100-150k) given that there's a legitimate risk of it ending up being an unplayable $50k flop - but just my opinion FWIW.
    Leo's trial games were in line with his scoring at around 1PPM
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    Post by BCT05 Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:03 am

    mrbrownstone wrote:Pretty happy with Russell -> Thompson as one trade, still umming and ahhing on the other:

    a) Lolo -> Starling + 248k Cleary bank, clear path to get him via Mahoney and cashing down Bully/Tuilagi, leaves me having to play two of Thompson/Coates/Ilias/Bully this week though.

    b) Lolo -> Sexton + 76k, no clear plan to get Cleary, probably have to trade Mahoney + Pap?

    c) Vailea -> May + 11k, clear out the red dots, move on Lolo + Mahoney next week to afford Cleary

    d) Bully -> Starling + 2k, stronger team for this week with a bench of Randall, Starling, King and one of Thompson/Coates/Ilias, move on Lolo + Mahoney next week to afford Cleary unless one of them tons up.

    Had been pretty set on A and building up some cash, but when I lay it out like that, D is tempting. Probably a stronger bench for this week and still a decent plan to get Cleary in. Worried about moving too early on Bully though. Thoughts?

    D

    If I could afford Bullemor to Starling I'd be doing that
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    Post by mrbrownstone Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:06 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    When you think about it, it does seem strange that the most popular cheapie this week is a guy who scored 15 points in 25 minutes in round 1

    I brought up in the last thread that I'm worried there's a bit of groupthink around Thompson, said as someone who's probably getting him in. Was surprised that it was 9-1 when I brought up him vs May in the TU/TD thread.

    I think the pros (low BE, 250k, Klem out and Barnett EDG, high ownership so if he fails most people fail) probably just about outweigh the cons, but we shouldn't lose sight that he's still a bench MID with two games under his belt who scored 15 in R1.
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    Post by Jumping Marlin Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:09 am

    Milchcow wrote:
    When you think about it, it does seem strange that the most popular cheapie this week is a guy who scored 15 points in 25 minutes in round 1

    I must admit I'm reconsidering due to three points.  

    > He got subbed back on with 12 to go against the Tigers when the Knights had the game in the bag.  Would that have happened if it was a close game?  If not, he would've got 26 mins, about the same as Round 1.

    > In stay alive cup last year he played 12 games and averaged 36 points in 42 mins at an average of 0.84ppm.  Assume he can average 0.84ppm in 1st grade, he needs 35minutes to score the 29points he needs to go up by $150k from his current base.  I suspect that 35mins may be about the max he will get.

    > His score of 45 last week had 3 offloads.  Against woeful Tigers.  Teams will defend better than that and become aware to stop his offloads.  Plus, that's more offloads than he appeared to make in 12 stay alive cup games last year (he made 2 in total).  

    Is an average score of 30 doable?  Yes.  Is it certain?  No


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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:12 am

    mattnz wrote:
    Leo's trial games were in line with his scoring at around 1PPM

    I'm grabbing him with tempered expectations. Fantasy history is littered with 1PPM bench props that turn to crap
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    Post by Aardvark Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:16 am

    mrbrownstone wrote:

    I brought up in the last thread that I'm worried there's a bit of groupthink around Thompson, said as someone who's probably getting him in. Was surprised that it was 9-1 when I brought up him vs May in the TU/TD thread.

    I think the pros (low BE, 250k, Klem out and Barnett EDG, high ownership so if he fails most people fail) probably just about outweigh the cons, but we shouldn't lose sight that he's still a bench MID with two games under his belt who scored 15 in R1.

    As someone else getting him in, absolutely!

    He should not be anywhere near anyone's starting 17...he is cover and a pretty hopeful shot at some short term $$. I am trading out a long term red dot for him but I'm not sure I would be trading a starter who had a shit game last week

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