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    NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 49 - Funtime Fifita

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    Post by Cool Runnings Wed May 12, 2021 4:58 pm

    All this Starling chat got me wanting to do the following:

    Fifita —> Ipap
    Simpkin —> Starling
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    Post by Ramitinmyhaaas Wed May 12, 2021 4:58 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    It's a massive gamble, but very high reward.

    Yep and at this point with my team it's probs a risk I'm willing to take. Worst case I trade him for one week but he makes plenty of cash that week hahaha.
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    Post by Archer Wed May 12, 2021 4:59 pm

    Oz Sport Mad wrote:

    Undoubtedly, there is sometimes fire where there is smoke.

    But something I have learnt over the last 30+ years watching League, is that sometimes where this is smoke, there is a smoke machine.....and that smoke machine often happens to be full time journo's who deliberately join dots when teams are losing.

    Take NQ and Lolo at the start of this year, haven't heard too much out of them since they have started winning (even when some of the wins have been less than impressive and against some pretty average teams).

    Look not saying there isn't any rifts or strained relationships (like any other workplace) - and particularly it wasn't a great sign that Tapine's missus did what she did.

    But to me, the Raiders poor form has more to do with missing a highly under-rated fullback.

    If they start winning again, I'm sure Ricky and the players will all suddenly like each other again.
    Beat me to it. Nrl journos take the throw enough approach. Personally I actually prefer how we go with starling and I'm also happy enough to keep hodgo as he's done plenty of good things for us and came over when we were very ordinary, so I've got no bulldog in the fight. But when half the forum is joking about how the nrl reports news, well enough to be believable articles.. it says alot about how much stock to place in it, even if people want it for fantasy points


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    Post by Ozymandias Wed May 12, 2021 5:00 pm

    Mr Snrub wrote:What does it matter if Starling doesn't play R13.

    It's not like R17 doesn't exist and you could potentially get a keeper for excellent value even if you give it another week or two to pan out.  

    True
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    Post by Teeth Eater Wed May 12, 2021 5:01 pm

    Missed pages and masses of info, but went over and read the article on NRL.com. What's the main reason people are sold on Starling at the moment? The fact that he and Hodgson will be playing at the same time on the field, meaning that we're assuming Starling plays 80min at hooker and Hodgson plays about 50mins @ lock, and no time as hooker?

    Picked up Starling as soon as Hodgson was out in the POD League, but very, very hesitant to pick him up for my "proper" team. Just seems fraught (first time I've ever used that word in my life, not even kidding) with danger. But with his BE it's almost this week or not at all. Of course that's not the case, but it's going to be painful paying $50K+ more next week if one waits. Just not sold on the whole situation at all...
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    Post by Teeth Eater Wed May 12, 2021 5:05 pm

    Mr Snrub wrote:What does it matter if Starling doesn't play R13.

    It's not like R17 doesn't exist  

    Love this point. It is by no means only here, but so much commentary around R13 as if the world will have ended by R17 so no need to consider it. If it comes down to it, I try to focus on players that don't play Origin. Doesn't matter if their bye is in round 13 or 17.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Wed May 12, 2021 5:05 pm

    Teeth Eater wrote:Missed pages and masses of info, but went over and read the article on NRL.com. What's the main reason people are sold on Starling at the moment? The fact that he and Hodgson will be playing at the same time on the field, meaning that we're assuming Starling plays 80min at hooker and Hodgson plays about 50mins @ lock, and no time as hooker?

    Picked up Starling as soon as Hodgson was out in the POD League, but very, very hesitant to pick him up for my "proper" team. Just seems fraught (first time I've ever used that word in my life, not even kidding) with danger. But with his BE it's almost this week or not at all. Of course that's not the case, but it's going to be painful paying $50K+ more next week if one waits. Just not sold on the whole situation at all...

    If Starling is playing 80 at hooker while Hodgson plays lock he would still be value even at 600k. I'm holding for atleast the next 2 weeks. You can make the cash back you can't get the trades back
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    Post by standard-issue Wed May 12, 2021 5:09 pm

    filthridden wrote:
    Chewie wrote:I've heard rumours that the Dogs are in talks with Hodgson...

    I've now read this from two different sources.

    Lol
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    Post by BCT05 Wed May 12, 2021 5:12 pm

    Archer wrote:
    Beat me to it. Nrl journos take the throw enough approach. Personally I actually prefer how we go with starling and I'm also happy enough to keep hodgo as he's done plenty of good things for us and came over when we were very ordinary, so I've got no bulldog in the fight. But when half the forum is joking about how the nrl reports news, well enough to be believable articles.. it says alot about how much stock to place in it, even if people want it for fantasy points

    I'm not expecting Hodgson to necessarily leave but just seems more likely based on a couple of things that have been said and selection this week, that Starling will have a bigger role and Hodgson a smaller one. Interested in your thoughts though. Wondering if they could do something like 60 minutes for Starling, Hodgson playing 30mins lock and then finishing the game at hooker?
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    Post by Oz Sport Mad Wed May 12, 2021 5:13 pm

    Archer wrote:
    Beat me to it. Nrl journos take the throw enough approach. Personally I actually prefer how we go with starling and I'm also happy enough to keep hodgo as he's done plenty of good things for us and came over when we were very ordinary, so I've got no bulldog in the fight. But when half the forum is joking about how the nrl reports news, well enough to be believable articles.. it says alot about how much stock to place in it, even if people want it for fantasy points

    I actually think Starling is a bit of a gun too and probably slightly under-priced, so a good fantasy choice also.
    I probably won't trade him in just yet though, so just trying to balance the argument.

    The Radley's, Murray's and NBrown's of this world have made that ball playing middle almost a necessity, so can easily see a Hodgson/Starling combo working.
    I wish my bloody Broncos would play Asiata in that way.
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    Post by wolfking Wed May 12, 2021 5:14 pm

    BCT05 wrote:

    I'm not expecting Hodgson to necessarily leave but just seems more likely based on a couple of things that have been said and selection this week, that Starling will have a bigger role and Hodgson a smaller one. Interested in your thoughts though. Wondering if they could do something like 60 minutes for Starling, Hodgson playing 30mins lock and then finishing the game at hooker?

    How would that sort of split benefit the team though?
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    Post by Welshy Wed May 12, 2021 5:15 pm

    bigbruno wrote:

    Even with him sitting Rd 13?

    4 trades in R12 so 4 possible additions for R13, I've banked a few trades so for a potential 50-60 scorer at sub $500k it's worth the risk especially when he could be priced $100k extra in 2/3 weeks and I'll want him as a undervalued R17 player anyway if he keeps the role

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    Post by Khany Wed May 12, 2021 5:24 pm

    The 80 min hooker role will be non existent in a few years
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    Post by BCT05 Wed May 12, 2021 5:24 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    How would that sort of split benefit the team though?

    Yeah I don't know, would just be a way to get decent involvement throughout the game from both your up and coming young hooker and the experienced veteran?

    More was just thinking out loud on possible scenarios, but overall in my mind I don't expect Starling to just go back to 20min off the bench again after all this, so I think I'm going to take the risk
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    Post by Ramitinmyhaaas Wed May 12, 2021 5:25 pm

    Khany wrote:The 80 min hooker role will be non existent in a few years

    Will be less common, not non existent
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed May 12, 2021 5:28 pm

    wolfking wrote:

    How would that sort of split benefit the team though?

    For all the talk of Hodgson getting in the way of the Raiders attack, he's the only one of their spine who seems to know how to control the tempo of a game or guide them round the park.

    Imo, Starling is a great fantasy scorer but better off in a bench role to run when there are gaps appearing unless the Raiders have a controlling half, which they don't.

    The Raiders have been in even worse form with Starling starting than Hodgson. (In retrospect, Wighton 1, Williams 6, Hodgson 7, Starling 9 might have been the way to go when CNK got injured).
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    Post by Khany Wed May 12, 2021 5:33 pm

    Ramitinmyhaaas wrote:

    Will be less common, not non existent

    I'm considering getting rid of Grant under the current Storm arrangement
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    Post by rhinoceroo Wed May 12, 2021 5:33 pm

    Oz Sport Mad wrote:

    I actually think Starling is a bit of a gun too and probably slightly under-priced, so a good fantasy choice also.
    I probably won't trade him in just yet though, so just trying to balance the argument.

    The Radley's, Murray's and NBrown's of this world have made that ball playing middle almost a necessity, so can easily see a Hodgson/Starling combo working.
    I wish my bloody Broncos would play Asiata in that way.

    Radley, Murray and NBrown all smash into the line both in attack and defence. They're undersized props with good hands (Brown isn't even that undersized). Like CS9, Hodgson is one you could see successfully playing half but would be a waste of time hitting it up like a middle forward.
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    Post by Moanaman Wed May 12, 2021 5:34 pm

    Khany wrote:The 80 min hooker role will be non existent in a few years

    Shhhhhh Jayden, don't listen to the evil man, you're my #1 hooker...
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    Post by Ramitinmyhaaas Wed May 12, 2021 5:35 pm

    Khany wrote:

    I'm considering getting rid of Grant under the current Storm arrangement

    Yeah same bro. Will be moving him on next week. Took a loss on him but oh well he gave me like 105 points in 2 weeks so not the worst.

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