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    NRL Fantasy 2021 Part 5 - There was no party.

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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:01 am

    Rapture_NRL wrote:

    RTS was usually taking the kicks even on the wings. But kick returns probably not the real selling point, it'll be benefitting from the forwards actually winning the contest. Can just see him popping up on an offload with a broken defensive line. Can't understate how much improvement there is in this forward pack than the last 4 iterations.

    Anyway, talking him up cause I'm a fanboy, Warriors die hard AND there's f all WFB options this year lol

    I'd love the Warriors to do well but can't help thinking you've got a worse coach than last year (the second coach, not the first one).
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    Post by The Pascoe Fiasco Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:03 am

    Since Moylan has been brought up I’ve got a question. I have one spot in my 18-21 left. The choice appears to be between Croker and Liddle. I can’t use Moylan as I need a hooker. All three concern me. Who knows what to expect from Croker if he plays 80 or close to it. I was all set on Liddle, but Simpkin bothers me. Is Simpkin a better option? Anyone have any idea how Simpkin could be used? He was playing lock while Liddle came on to play Hooker. Simpkin easily outplayed Liddle in his hooker stint too.
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    Post by Godtrell Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:04 am

    https://www.sportingnews.com/au/amp/league/news/keaon-koloamatangi-south-sydney-rabbitohs-nrl-2021/151vw9pan1gih189vxiod48603?__twitter_impression=true

    For all of those considering Koloamatangi from souths.

    I've been training in the backrow in the pre-season. Obviously that backrow spot is up for grabs since [Bayley Sironen] left," Koloamatangi told Sporting News.
    "I grew up playing backrow my whole career until last year I played middle.
    "I feel more comfortable on the edge and I've been training there with Cody and stuff but it's up to Wayne to choose me.
    "There's a lot of competition there. We've got Jed Cartwright, we've got Jacob Host, they're solid players too. I wouldn't be mad if any of them got picked."
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    Post by Welshy Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:06 am

    If I was Koala and Host got picked infront of me I’d be packing my fucking bags and joining the mormons


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    Post by my tv broke Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:08 am

    Welshy wrote:If I was Koala and Host got picked infront of my I’d be picking my fucking bags and joining the mormons

    Host played in that NSW Cup trial last week. Don't know if he was returning from injury but I'd be surprised if he was a serious challenger to the spot.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:08 am

    Archer wrote:
    Brimson is definitely playing origin (though I don't see that as such a negative), can't see how he'd be excluded barring injury

    You think Brimson has leapfrogged Ponga? He obviously won't be ahead of DCE/Munster at half and the other spot is 14, where they could go for a hooker as in Game 3 last year or, if fit, Morgan.
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    Post by Archer Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:52 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    You think Brimson has leapfrogged Ponga? He obviously won't be ahead of DCE/Munster at half and the other spot is 14, where they could go for a hooker as in Game 3 last year or, if fit, Morgan.
    Nah I don't think I think he nabs the 1, but either he or Morgo could be thrown in at ctr with the other going to 14. Its not exactly like we are flush with options at CTR and both can handle the 14 role just fine. Not to mention this is assuming nobody is injured (Both Holmes and Morgan had shocking runs last year so I'm not sure how certain we can be of that).
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:58 am

    Rabbitohs forward Keaon Koloamatangi full of confidence in new role for 2021
    Tom Naghgten
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    22 February 2021

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    Wayne Bennett has an embarrassment of riches on his hands when it comes to the young forwards at the Rabbitohs.

    One of the most exciting prospects in the crop is local product Keaon Koloamatangi and the master coach has a plan to get even more out of the 22-year-old in 2021.

    Koloamatangi made his first-grade debut in round four last year, making a big impression through the middle of the park in his 14 games.

    Though, in a pack reshuffle, Koloamatangi has been preparing for the new season in the second row and impressing his teammates along the way.

    "I've been training in the backrow in the pre-season. Obviously that backrow spot is up for grabs since [Bayley Sironen] left," Koloamatangi told Sporting News.

    "I grew up playing backrow my whole career until last year I played middle.

    "I feel more comfortable on the edge and I've been training there with Cody and stuff but it's up to Wayne to choose me.

    "There's a lot of competition there. We've got Jed Cartwright, we've got Jacob Host, they're solid players too. I wouldn't be mad if any of them got picked."

    Koloamatangi revealed he knuckled down over the off-season, not allowing himself the temptations that come with a trip away.

    He's also dropped a few kilos to help him adapt to the demands of the new role.

    "When I go away I sort of get ahead of myself and just eat whatever and drink whatever, but I wanted to have a big year this year," he said.

    "I lost about three kilos this pre-season and got my skinfolds down to the best they've ever been.

    "It's been a bit shorter but still intense and I'm just trying to work my arse off and get a spot on the team.

    "I think I'm heading in the right direction and it's probably the best I've ever felt.

    "A lot of the elite backrowers play 80, so that's my goal. I know I can do that. That's where I feel most comfortable and where I think I can portray all my skills that I've got."

    Koloamatangi has a couple of representative stars - Cody Walker and Dane Gagai - inside and outside of him to keep him honest on the left edge, but he's been given a big vote of confidence on the evidence so far.

    Maroons star Gagai confirmed the youngster's level of application to improving his game.

    "He’s looking unreal. He showed last year what he’s capable of, he’s been given a new role out on the edge there and he’s been training unbelievably," Gagai said.

    "His work ethic, along with a couple of the other boys, is unreal. On days off they were coming in, doing extras, doing weights, he’ll be fine out there."

    It's not just his teammates wrapping him, with Koloamatangi revealing Bennett has given him more of a license to express himself in attack.

    "He's told me I look more confident every training session with the ball and he just tells me to keep being myself and don't be scared to throw a ball or run or whatever, he won't get mad," Koloamatangi said.

    "He can see my confidence is coming and that's probably one of my biggest strengths. It is pretty cool seeing his belief in me."

    Souths will put the final touches on their preparations when they meet the Dragons in the Charity Shield on Saturday before getting their 2021 campaign underway against reigning premiers Melbourne on Thursday, March 11
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    Post by StormTrooper96 Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:03 am

    This draft is getting hard. Not sure what spots to fill next.
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:03 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    You think Brimson has leapfrogged Ponga? He obviously won't be ahead of DCE/Munster at half and the other spot is 14, where they could go for a hooker as in Game 3 last year or, if fit, Morgan.

    I'd have Brimson as centre
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:04 am

    Welshy wrote:
    More of a gut feel on that one but he’s so dangerous with ball in hand. Thinking is more opportunity being a Ball hog again with no SJ. Bit like Aitken

    What sucked me in last year was that in 2019 he had only scored 2 tries and with 8 last year i hope he can improve on that again
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    Post by manlybeaver Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:05 am

    The Pascoe Fiasco wrote:Since Moylan  has been brought up I’ve got a question. I have one spot in my 18-21 left. The choice appears to be between Croker and Liddle. I can’t use Moylan as I need a hooker. All three concern me. Who knows what to expect from Croker if he plays 80 or close to it. I was all set on Liddle, but Simpkin bothers me. Is Simpkin a better option? Anyone have any idea how Simpkin could be used? He was playing lock while Liddle came on to play Hooker. Simpkin easily outplayed Liddle in his hooker stint too.
    Can you put watson on your bench for back up hooker ?
    I'm probably gonna run nui or moylan at the back and hope they can make some cash to close the gap to turbo when his back
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    Post by Milchcow Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:11 am


    If Moylan stays fit he'll make cash. If he can average 35 (which is basically his career average when fit) then I think he is undervalued enough to warrant consideration.

    Depends how kind TLT is and what other options turn are available.
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    Post by Bethany_B Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:17 am

    Thoughts on Corey Allan as a mid tier WFB option?

    In his games at fullback last year he averaged in the high 30s, which isn't too bad considering his price at 31. In a position where there aren't that many options, he might be worth a look if you think the Dogs will improve (and I think they will, though we'll see how Barrett does)
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:23 am

    Bethany_B wrote:Thoughts on Corey Allan as a mid tier WFB option?

    In his games at fullback last year he averaged in the high 30s, which isn't too bad considering his price at 31. In a position where there aren't that many options, he might be worth a look if you think the Dogs will improve (and I think they will, though we'll see how Barrett does)

    If there's ever a position to avoid middies it's WFB lol
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    Post by Rapture_NRL Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:24 am

    rhinoceroo wrote:

    I'd love the Warriors to do well but can't help thinking you've got a worse coach than last year (the second coach, not the first one).

    Good point. Not sure how Knights didn't crack the 8 with that solid roster under Brown

    Side note, is there any salary cap on coaches?
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    Post by Rabbits21 Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:31 am

    What are people’s thoughts on Momirovski?
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    Post by SoylentGreen Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:34 am

    Rapture_NRL wrote:

    Good point. Not sure how Knights didn't crack the 8 with that solid roster under Brown

    Side note, is there any salary cap on coaches?

    Yes - since 2017. Was 5.7mil (for all coaching staff) then, not sure if it's increased.
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    Post by my tv broke Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:36 am

    JMK injury update from Bulldogs:-

    The Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs can confirm Jeremy Marshall-King will miss this week’s trial match against the Cronulla Sharks due to injury.

    Marshall-King suffered a low grade Lisfranc injury to his foot during the NRL All Stars match last weekend and will be visiting a specialist this week for a rehabilitation review.

    The 25-year old will be aiming for selection for the opening game of the season against the Newcastle Knights.
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    Post by rhinoceroo Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:48 am

    Been putting some thought into getting Koroisau instead of Cook.

    Thinking aloud, they're both priced around where they're going to score. Cook 4 points up on Api. Let's assume both stay fit, then Api is going to be a must have for the first bye and probably the rest of the season, so you trade him in after round 12. Probably for Cook, who you get back after Origin.

    So, before the bye, Cook has outscored Api by c.50 points. Is that worth the trade you're using to get Api in? Or is it better to start with him, particularly if the extra $50k spent on the starting team can get you that 4 points per week back? (This is with Cleary as Captain, so those 50 points don't become 100)


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