NRL Fantasy 2019 Part 64

So what ever happened to Fainu & his court case when he sent unauthorized revealing pictures of that girl without her consent. Obviously nothing if he's still playing.

White Lightning wrote:With this Fainu news I'm considering these buys for Cleary who I'm selling:
(a) Cleary out - SJ in or
(b) Cleary out - Turbo in (via C. Watson)
(c) Cleary out - Fainu in (via C. Watson)

I was going to do (b) & not go (a) because Watson to SJ will be an easy trade down the line & with SJ's high b/e this week his price will drop. The only thing putting me off SJ is that the Sharks have a lot of attacking options & SJ would be competing with the likes of Moylan, Townsend, W. Graham, Gallen & Fifita (when he plays) to get his hands on the ball. At the Warriors SJ was the main man but at the Sharks there's 4-6 main men. So I was going Turbo because imo he'll outscore most of the halves like SJ. Now with option (c) emerging I have to say I'm very tempted to get Fainu but eventually he'll be back to the bench so I will pass.

SJ is the type of player who could benefit from those attacking weapons. He could almost play like a second fullback, running off Fifi, BHU, Gal and then has Nikora and Xerri outside him to create LBA's and TA's. Seems to have his head back in the game after last week and against the dogs I am backing him for a big one.

I have Morgan, CNK and Havilli to deal with and have to play all 3 with Morgan looking like being out. I'm 1K short of Morgan and Havilli to Watson and Fainu. I either go SJ instead of Watson or keep Havilli and trade CNK. Hmmm...

Or trade Fifi but might as well hold him now.

StormTrooper96 wrote:

SJ is the type of player who could benefit from those attacking weapons. He could almost play like a second fullback, running off Fifi, BHU, Gal and then has Nikora and Xerri outside him to create LBA's and TA's. Seems to have his head back in the game after last week and against the dogs I am backing him for a big one.

Yeah I'm probably overthinking it. I agree & in reality even if he's just setting up Nikora & Xerri for tb's & tries & maybe picks a try up himself then he's going to score well. Playing the Bulldogs this week as you say could be a big points game & then round 16 up against a depleted Broncos re origin & both the Bulldogs & Broncos seem out of form atm.

wolfking wrote:I have Morgan, CNK and Havilli to deal with and have to play all 3 with Morgan looking like being out.  I'm 1K short of Morgan and Havilli to Watson and Fainu.  I either go SJ instead of Watson or keep Havilli and trade CNK.  Hmmm...

Or trade Fifi but might as well hold him now.

I like = Morgan, Havili out & SJ, Fainu in.
I think with Hodgson back he will create more for CNK & get him more involved in attack much more than Havili did.

White Lightning wrote:

Yeah I'm probably overthinking it. I agree & in reality even if he's just setting up Nikora & Xerri for tb's & tries & maybe picks a try up himself then he's going to score well. Playing the Bulldogs this week as you say could be a big points game & then round 16 up against a depleted Broncos re origin & both the Bulldogs & Broncos seem out of form atm.

What do you guys put down as base stats?

For a halfback are base stats

KM
MG
TCK
Goals
FDO
MT
ER
PC
OF
TB

Then

TA,T,LB,LBA are classified as Attacking Stats?

Fuck it, I think I'm going Cleary > SJ and Deardon > Fainu. Then I'm gonna play Havili over Farah. All sound solid enough?

Leaves me with:
Cook (C) (132)
Haas SST
Taumalolo Jurbo Murray (44)
DCE SJ
Bateman Nikora 
Teddy Ponga Watson 

Smith Martin Fainu Havili

Farah (27) Carrigan Fifita Brittain

No Worries wrote:Don't have the trades up my sleeve but brought Twal in fr Fifita anyway. I'm not going to win the thing so if I can't get Fifi in will it really matter ? Happy with the decision so far

I traded it Fifi to. I won’t get him back in. Already wasted enough trades on him. My thoughts are the rise of Uele who will only see more mins and Woods back and Gallens last year I think he’ll want to spend as much time on the field as possible.


There will be less reliance on him for the run home

Mighty Fishes wrote:

I traded it Fifi to. I won’t get him back in. Already wasted enough trades on him. My thoughts are the rise of Uele who will only see more mins and Woods back and Gallens last year I think he’ll want to spend as much time on the field as possible.


There will be less reliance on him for the run home

Which 2RF did u end up sitting out mate?

What are base stats? Just for my own knowledge. Thanks lads.

wolfking wrote:I have Morgan, CNK and Havilli to deal with and have to play all 3 with Morgan looking like being out.  I'm 1K short of Morgan and Havilli to Watson and Fainu.  I either go SJ instead of Watson or keep Havilli and trade CNK.  Hmmm...

Or trade Fifi but might as well hold him now.

Thought Green said he was gtg

White Lightning wrote:@ nrl physio - Koroisau had surgery on his ankle - expected to miss at least 6 weeks & worse case he'll miss 8-10 weeks.
Anyone going to punt on Fainu.

Hmmm Farah to Fainu might be a go

Mighty Fishes wrote:

I traded it Fifi to. I won’t get him back in. Already wasted enough trades on him. My thoughts are the rise of Uele who will only see more mins and Woods back and Gallens last year I think he’ll want to spend as much time on the field as possible.


There will be less reliance on him for the run home

I did Fifita to Twal as well & for the reasons you said. I read on DT latemail that Woods only has to get through the captains run to play this week. So the Sharks will probably have a 4 prop rotation now with Fifita, Prior, Woods & Uele & this is not good for Fifita. To me even with reduced mins Fifita will still end up being the no. 1 fantasy scoring prop but he won't get the boom type scores where he plays 55-65 mins. This means to me that Twal will get much closer to Fifita's scores.

StormTrooper96 wrote:What are base stats? Just for my own knowledge. Thanks lads.

Essentially it’s a way of judging a players “base” output average without all the potential extra attacking stats in a big game, and minus the potential negative stats in a bad game.

So in general for the majority of players/positions: it is average tackles and run metres, simple as that.  The larger the historical sample the better obviously. With a Half you can add kick metres. With a goal kicker you can add goals.

We very rarely add anything else to anyone else. Occasionally though if a player has that longer history of a certain trait then we suggest they may actually be base stats as well. Eg Paul Carter with missed tackles or Crichton circa 2017 with TB’s. The Crichton example is a very good example of why not to add “extras”  though as we figured he would always play like he did back then, but hasn’t in hindsight.

SI wrote:
Essentially it’s a way of judging a players “base” output average without all the potential extra attacking stats in a big game, and minus the potential negative stats in a bad game.

So in general for the majority of players/positions: it is average tackles and run metres, simple as that.  The larger the historical sample the better obviously. With a Half you can add kick metres. With a goal kicker you can add goals.

We very rarely add anything else to anyone else. Occasionally though if a player has that longer history of a certain trait then we suggest they may actually be base stats as well. Eg Paul Carter with missed tackles or Crichton circa 2017 with TB’s. The Crichton example is a very good example of why not to add “extras”  though as we figured he would always play like he did back then, but hasn’t in hindsight.

Good post mate!

For those tradeaholics like myself who I have already used their 2 trades for the week and locked them in is Fainu still an option in R17 (could buy in bye round but seems counterintuitive - main option is Havili to Fainu next week)

Missed out on Fainu last year as well (I swear I remember buying Lewis Brown no joke because Fainu wasn't top 30)

SI wrote:
Essentially it’s a way of judging a players “base” output average without all the potential extra attacking stats in a big game, and minus the potential negative stats in a bad game.

So in general for the majority of players/positions: it is average tackles and run metres, simple as that.  The larger the historical sample the better obviously. With a Half you can add kick metres. With a goal kicker you can add goals.

We very rarely add anything else to anyone else. Occasionally though if a player has that longer history of a certain trait then we suggest they may actually be base stats as well. Eg Paul Carter with missed tackles or Crichton circa 2017 with TB’s. The Crichton example is a very good example of why not to add “extras”  though as we figured he would always play like he did back then, but hasn’t in hindsight.

I thought so. So with SJ this year he is averaging this for base stats (6 games, not including his injured game
Points/per
Kick Metres = 13.4/game
Tackles = 14/game
Metres Gained = 5.7/game
Goals = 4.34/game
Total = 37.44/game

If we add in his demerits
Missed Tackles = -4/game
Errors = -3.2/game

Total = 30.24 in base stats a game.

It's hard because I guess you may also say in his return game he made 9 tackles, miss 4 and only ran 19 metres... so you could say he was getting back into it.
Also would you ass forced drop outs for Halves (as they are generally doing the kicking)?

30.24 points a game in base stats is pretty good considering SJ is also averaging 1.8 TB's a game, 1 LBA a game and nearly 1 offload a game. Any other attacking stats such as TA's, Tries and LB's would be very welcome.

White Lightning wrote:With this Fainu news I'm considering these buys for Cleary who I'm selling:
(a) Cleary out - SJ in or
(b) Cleary out - Turbo in (via C. Watson)
(c) Cleary out - Fainu in (via C. Watson)

I was going to do (b) & not go (a) because Watson to SJ will be an easy trade down the line & with SJ's high b/e this week his price will drop. The only thing putting me off SJ is that the Sharks have a lot of attacking options & SJ would be competing with the likes of Moylan, Townsend, W. Graham, Gallen & Fifita (when he plays) to get his hands on the ball. At the Warriors SJ was the main man but at the Sharks there's 4-6 main men. So I was going Turbo because imo he'll outscore most of the halves like SJ. Now with option (c) emerging I have to say I'm very tempted to get Fainu but eventually he'll be back to the bench so I will pass.

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