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    Rippin and Tearin

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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:24 pm

    @Pieman wrote:No benji

    Or Luke

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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by leaguegod on Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:11 pm

    @rhinoceroo wrote:Tonga are going to have a nails pack with Fifita, TPJ, SST, Ma'u and Taumalolo. Tupou, Hurrell, Kata, Feki backline. Just missing at half/hooker but still could give Kiwis a game.

    Aus side for me:

    Slater
    Boyd Chambers Munster Gagai
    Morgan Cronk
    Woods Smith Klemmer
    Cordner Gillett
    McGuire

    Hunt, Frizell, RCG, JTrbo

    Don't think that pack looks amazing, tbh. Hooker apart, Tonga's pack almost looks stronger.
    i know its pretty easy to get excited about the tongan team but i don't think their pack, even taking out the large hooker advantage comes close to australia's pack


    Fifita V's Klemmer - its probably fifita but i think overall klem had a bigger impact in origin when the rest of his squad wasn't dominating, bit more reliable then fifita to make the yards. fifita has that x-factor ability that not many props have ever had tho
    Moa V Woods - even if you don't rate woods, you'd have him over moa every day of the week
    Gillett & cordner are obviously better then their counter parts (even tho it is a good second row)
    MCguire goes pretty good but clearly no forward is near lolo

    jturbo, friz and whatever 3rd forward we use is easily better then BMM, TPJ, terepo, manu, Joe O etc



    all that being said, the impact and flair value this tongan team have will make it awesome to watch



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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by leaguegod on Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:14 pm

    @Rippin and Tearin wrote:KIWIS: Nelson Asofa-Solomona, Gerard Beale, Adam Blair, Kenneath Bromwich, Addin Fonua-Blake, Peta Hiku, Shaun Johnson, Thomas Leuluai, Danny Levi, Isaac Liu, Simon Mannering, Te Maire Martin, Jason Nightingale, Kodi Nikorima, Russell Packer, Jordan Rapana, Brad Takairangi, Joseph Tapine, Martin Taupau, Elijah Taylor, Roger Tuivasa Sheck, Jared Waerea-Hargreaves, Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Dean Whare.

    still a pretty good team.

    Te Maire will do a solid job next SJ, pack is still strong


    outside backs will still carry a few passengers and hooker looks like an issue

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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by leaguegod on Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:17 pm

    josh mansour into the team for boyd


    now that is a bit odd, i know there are other fullback options but once boyd is out, i feel like you should get the guy who is clearly our next best fullback in the squad in case something happens to billy


    whether teddy being named for italy already affected that, i dunno

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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by Oz Sport Mad on Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:37 pm

    @leaguegod wrote:josh mansour into the team for boyd


    now that is a bit odd, i know there are other fullback options but once boyd is out, i feel like you should get the guy who is clearly our next best fullback in the squad in case something happens to billy


    whether teddy being named for italy already affected that, i dunno

    I understand Mansour was already on standby from the start and prior to Teddy joining the Italians.

    I don't find it odd at all.

    Why weaken one position (wing) on the off chance that your clear #1 fullback gets injured, particularly when you have similar backups to Teddy anyway already in the squad.


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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by leaguegod on Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:40 pm

    i guess my theory is more that mansour is likely to not be starting (perhaps now all 3 centre's do with gagai on the wing) or they plug in tommy T )


    now teddy is much more likely to cover other positions as aback up and covers an important position, mansour only plays one position as well and if i was having a back up specialist, i'd rather it be to cover a key position, not one we can plug other options into quite easily
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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by Shanbon on Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:48 pm

    I love the fact players are choosing to play for these so called 2 teir nations. Go Tonga, they have a great team. Should all make for a much more interesting tournament.
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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by Welshy on Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:54 pm

    With all this news I'm now expecting Tyson Frizell to pull out of the Aus side with an injury complaint, fly over to Wales for some "hollistic anabolic" treatment ala Naholo and pull on the red shirt in time for the opener!!

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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by Pieman on Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:21 pm

    @leaguegod wrote:
    i know its pretty easy to get excited about the tongan team but i don't think their pack, even taking out the large hooker advantage comes close to australia's pack


    Fifita V's Klemmer - its probably fifita but i think overall klem had a bigger impact in origin when the rest of his squad wasn't dominating, bit more reliable then fifita to make the yards. fifita has that x-factor ability that not many props have ever had tho
    Moa V Woods - even if you don't rate woods, you'd have him over moa every day of the week
    Gillett & cordner are obviously better then their counter parts (even tho it is a good second row)
    MCguire goes pretty good but clearly no forward is near lolo

    jturbo, friz and whatever 3rd forward we use is easily better then BMM, TPJ, terepo, manu, Joe O etc



    all that being said, the impact and flair value this tongan team have will make it awesome to watch



    yeah agreed

    I guess now, I will just be more inclined to watch them play now that there are a 2 of the best players in the world playing for them.
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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by Pieman on Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:25 pm

    @Oz Sport Mad wrote:

    I understand Mansour was already on standby from the start and prior to Teddy joining the Italians.

    I don't find it odd at all.

    Why weaken one position (wing) on the off chance that your clear #1 fullback gets injured, particularly when you have similar backups to Teddy anyway already in the squad.


    Thank fuck tommy turbo is in the side.

    I mean yeah, dugan or gagai would do a job but far out there is a big gap between Slater and them. Not as much of a gap between him and ttrbo tho.Cant believe they picked Mansour over Ted, lol.

    Also - the "he was already named for another side" talk is garbage. Fifita was literally named in the aus team and withdrew to play for tonga. There is no reason they couldnt have been in touch with Tedesco and asked him to play for aus. The bloke covers wing, centre and fullback - I dont care what anyone says, Tedesco is 10x the player Mansour is. If you can be an excellent fullback you can be an excellent winger.

    Absolute garbage selection.

    Its purely a selection from mal and co, no other excuses.

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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by No Worries on Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:51 pm

    Been away camping so this could have already been said. It's been reported in the past that NZ are just islanders playing for the dominant RL nation. If a pact is formed or the new international eligibility rules are used for the way they have been designed. Then I'm happy to see NS flogged for the shit arse team they are
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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by code delta on Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:00 pm

    @leaguegod wrote:... if a player decides to play for a minnow, thats fine but don't expect your 20k match payments when australia are playing and they are not



    Do you really think the future 20k match payments played a part in his decision? Obviously not.
    And if what's happened today keeps up, maybe Tonga won't be a minnow until the selection rules get changed again. Handy looking team.
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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by surmo13 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:49 pm

    I’d bet on Munster being the fullback if Billy can’t go for whatever reason during the tournament, Boyd out doesn’t change the fact that there are still 5 fullbacks in the team and a back-up specialist fullback is not needed
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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by rhinoceroo on Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:55 pm

    @Rippin and Tearin wrote:KIWIS: Nelson Asofa-Solomona, Gerard Beale, Adam Blair, Kenneath Bromwich, Addin Fonua-Blake, Peta Hiku, Shaun Johnson, Thomas Leuluai, Danny Levi, Isaac Liu, Simon Mannering, Te Maire Martin, Jason Nightingale, Kodi Nikorima, Russell Packer, Jordan Rapana, Brad Takairangi, Joseph Tapine, Martin Taupau, Elijah Taylor, Roger Tuivasa Sheck, Jared Waerea-Hargreaves, Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Dean Whare.

    So, I'm thinking something like:

    RTS
    DWZ, Whare, Takarangi, Rapana
    TMM, SJ
    JWH, Kodi, Blair
    Taupau, Tapine
    Mannering
    Levi, Packer, AFB, NAS

    England will be something like:

    Hardaker
    Hall, Watkins, Shenton, McGillvary
    Widdop, Gale
    Graham, Hodgson, Surgess
    Whitehead, Bateman
    O'Loughlin
    Roby, Walmsley, Hill, McMeekan

    That's a pretty competitve side if Bennett lets them play. Good pack and bench, solid 3/4s, Hardaker is much better player than he showed at Penrith. Lot depends on the halves.
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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by Moose on Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:57 pm

    While it may be somewhat of a cunt move I'm looking forward to seeing Fifita and the Tongan forward pack give a few sides a run for their money. Just purchased a full new projector setup so can't wait to put it to good use for the WC.
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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by Rippin and Tearin on Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:38 am

    @Shanbon wrote:I love the fact players are choosing to play for these so called 2 teir nations. Go Tonga, they have a great team. Should all make for a much more interesting tournament.

    Don get me wrong, I love it too, but the process has been shit in some circumstances.

    I.e. Lolo pulling out of the NZ team a day before the squad is named without having discussions with them is shit. Fifita pulling out after he was named is just dumb.

    Im left feeling some of these guys are just taking the piss a bit. Its playing for your country after all, you should have a little bit more respect for that IMO.

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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by leaguegod on Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:45 am

    @code delta wrote:

    Do you really think the future 20k match payments played a part in his decision? Obviously not.
    And if what's happened today keeps up, maybe Tonga won't be a minnow until the selection rules get changed again. Handy looking team.


    yeah i defs don't think money played a part in this decision, i think both lolo and fifita had made this decision based on their desire to represent their heritage and i think its awesome for the world cup and i've got nothing but admiration to them for making such a big call


    i'm just saying, that for me, if Aust and NZ are playing a tourney at a later date and tonga isn't, i am sure both players put their hand up. i wouldn't pick them, i think the tier 1 nations still need to defend themselves and i wouldn't be picking players for my country who rather play for another country.


    i think Australia will do this, Fifita will never play for australia again imo. NZ will probably bend as soon as lolo puts his hand back up

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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by leaguegod on Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:47 am

    @rhinoceroo wrote:

    So, I'm thinking something like:

    RTS
    DWZ, Whare, Takarangi, Rapana
    TMM, SJ
    JWH, Kodi, Blair
    Taupau, Tapine
    Mannering
    Levi, Packer, AFB, NAS

    England will be something like:

    Hardaker
    Hall, Watkins, Shenton, McGillvary
    Widdop, Gale
    Graham, Hodgson, Surgess
    Whitehead, Bateman
    O'Loughlin
    Roby, Walmsley, Hill, McMeekan

    That's a pretty competitve side if Bennett lets them play. Good pack and bench, solid 3/4s, Hardaker is much better player than he showed at Penrith. Lot depends on the halves.


    seen the hardaker shit storm over night ?


    rugby league at its best, i doubt he plays the WC now
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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by ryno_ on Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:32 am

    @leaguegod wrote:NZ will probably bend as soon as lolo puts his hand back up

    Can't blame them. I'd bend over for lolo if he looked sideways at me.

    Hope this is the start of poly players choosing their home country over Aus/NZ despite the extra match payments available to them. Its fantastic for the international game.
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    Re: Rugby League World Cup 2017 Thread

    Post by rhinoceroo on Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:26 am

    @leaguegod wrote:


    seen the hardaker shit storm over night ?


    rugby league at its best, i doubt he plays the WC now

    Yep. Probably mean the return of Sam Tomkins, who's gone to shit since his big injury at the Warriors.

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