2017 NRL.com Fantasy Thread Part 30

I had a look at Whiteheads stats in the 3 games (rounds 3,4 & 6 - he was suspended round 5) he played in the 2fr for 80 mins & I'm not really impressed.

Rounds 3 & 6 he scored 50 & 55 points but in each game he had a ta & scored a try.
In round 4 when he didn't score a try or provide a ta he only scored 40 points.

So unless he gets attacking stats he's not really going to set the world on fire.

This Segey news has really thrown me. Was all set to line up with Jacks/Lamb/Hampton this week, but probably gonna have to chuck the R on Brailey now and drop one of those guys.

You know Maloney's ass when he's sitting 4th half behind those 3 now.

Imagine how many more people would've traded Brailey to Cook if Farah didn't make final team lists last week. Trading a then 60-minute hooker for a 50 min one looks like it might come back to bite.

Finch wrote:Are people bringing in Crichton on the fact he is/might be a 80 minute player now? Or for the fact he scored so good? Those are two different questions you need to ask yourself. Don't let his good score cloud your judgement. If he scored 50, played 80, I don't think as many people would be looking at bringing him in, which leads me to believe people are bringing him in because he scored good, and some people think they are going to be magically getting 70's every week now.

Just my 2c...

I brought him in because I don't know what I'm doing. He then scored 39 and 78.

mulvy wrote:Hodges: Why cowboys are in trouble.

Duhhh. What a genius

Lol, for realsies? Fuck I hate him. I hope Fox aren't going down the path of making poor team selections themselves, everything they have touched in the last 5 years has turned to gold.

White Lightning wrote:I had a look at Whiteheads stats in the 3 games (rounds 3,4 & 6 - he was suspended round 5) he played in the 2fr for 80 mins & I'm not really impressed.

Rounds 3 & 6 he scored 50 & 55 points but in each game he had a ta & scored a try.
In round 4 when he didn't score a try or provide a ta he only scored 40 points.

So unless he gets attacking stats he's not really going to set the world on fire.

I'd advise on having a look at his stats for the whole last year too. He got attacking stats then as well as will he likely do the same this year. The edge he plays on is damaging to say the least and seems to be the goto attacking side for the Raiders. I've got no reason to believe he won't get attacking stats most weeks. Obviously there will be variation and some weeks he won't get any but it'll average out and you'd expect roughy 50 PPG out of him.

Thats my rationale for grabbing him anyway.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

I'd advise on having a look at his stats for the whole last year too. He got attacking stats then as well as will he likely do the same this year. The edge he plays on is damaging to say the least and seems to be the goto attacking side for the Raiders. I've got no reason to believe he won't get attacking stats most weeks. Obviously there will be variation and some weeks he won't get any but it'll average out and you'd expect roughy 50 PPG out of him.

Thats my rationale for grabbing him anyway.

I agree. The benefits, potential or otherwise, outweigh the risks at this point in time

awanamafia wrote:Are Sironen owners jumping ship to Whitehead this week?

I'd prefer to Stone/Yates > Whitehead but a lack of cash/DPP is preventing me from doing so..

Reasonably happy with my 2rf in comparison with my halves and props so will be keeping him for a few more games yet. Whitehead could be the new Maubbs.

OnTheLast wrote:

Finch wrote:Are people bringing in Crichton on the fact he is/might be a 80 minute player now? Or for the fact he scored so good? Those are two different questions you need to ask yourself. Don't let his good score cloud your judgement. If he scored 50, played 80, I don't think as many people would be looking at bringing him in, which leads me to believe people are bringing him in because he scored good, and some people think they are going to be magically getting 70's every week now.

Just my 2c...

I brought him in because I don't know what I'm doing. He then scored 39 and 78.

I know how that feels.

White Lightning wrote:I had a look at Whiteheads stats in the 3 games (rounds 3,4 & 6 - he was suspended round 5) he played in the 2fr for 80 mins & I'm not really impressed.

Rounds 3 & 6 he scored 50 & 55 points but in each game he had a ta & scored a try.
In round 4 when he didn't score a try or provide a ta he only scored 40 points.

So unless he gets attacking stats he's not really going to set the world on fire.

I prefer a bigger sample size

2016 - 24 games @ 52 even with 5 regular season tries.

If he scores 40 without attacking stats (he scored a few 35s last year), then he shouldn't have any problem averaging 50+.

Rippin and Tearin wrote:

I'd advise on having a look at his stats for the whole last year too. He got attacking stats then as well as will he likely do the same this year. The edge he plays on is damaging to say the least and seems to be the goto attacking side for the Raiders. I've got no reason to believe he won't get attacking stats most weeks. Obviously there will be variation and some weeks he won't get any but it'll average out and you'd expect roughy 50 PPG out of him.

Thats my rationale for grabbing him anyway.

I had him all last year & my vague recollection is that he scored well when the Raiders were dominating & scoring plenty of points because he was involved in some of the attacking plays that resulted in points. He's an up & down sort of player & will get a few low 40's but then a few 55+ scores.

and he's $361k.. Not sure what setting the world on fire requires as an average, 60 odd? Could understand if he were 500k, but 361k for guaranteed 80 min gun is a steal..

I had a look at Crichton's tb & mt stats over rounds 2-6. He's played 283 minutes (49, 45, 58, 51 & 80 mins). In these games he has made 21 tackle breaks (4, 2, 1, 7, 7). That's a tb every 13.5 mins. However the negative factor with Crichton is missed tackles. He has missed 12 tackles in these games but that includes 6 missed tackles in round 5. It's interesting to note that the only game he played 80 mins which was in round 6 he only missed 2 tackles. I'm starting to think if he's nailed for 80 mins as an edge 2fr then he's a better option than Whitehead.

This Segeyaro injury news is very welcoming for me as now I no longer have a dillema as to who to pick as my 4th reserve and also whether to cash out or upgrade Brailey. Let's hope he scores 40s before Segeyaro returns so I can get more cash out of him!


Woohoo!

OnTheLast wrote:Hampton?......or Frawley?

With JT now out surely that makes it even harder to ignore Hampton

But Frawley such a gun if Des gives him the starting jersey he will own it and be this years Cleary.

I won't be buying him until he gets a starting role. Think back to Ryan Matterson last year.

White Lightning wrote:

I had him all last year & my vague recollection is that he scored well when the Raiders were dominating & scoring plenty of points because he was involved in some of the attacking plays that resulted in points. He's an up & down sort of player & will get a few low 40's but then a few 55+ scores.

Yup exactly, so while in the very short term the fluctuations might matter in the long run forget the noise and focus on what his average PPG will likely be, thats what matters right? Weeks where he hits high 30s and low 40s will be a bit of a disappointment but if you assume also he hits high 50s early 60s on occasion it'll all balance out to something that is very good value at the price you would be picking him up for now.

This week's trade:
Yates > Crinton
Gutho > Frawley

Should I be trading Gutho out? I really really want to keep him but the way he played last couple of weeks at FB doesn't scream keeper.

24 trades left, 274k ITB

Smith (C), Brailey
McGuire, Graham, FKaufusi (R), Matagi
Whitehead, JDB, Surgess, CHN (R), Crichton (R), Stone
Norman, Frawley, Hampton (R), Elgey
Cotric, Suli, Kelly, Talakai
Ponga, RTS, Slats, Abbey, Uate

Really neglecting my centres and look to fix them up in the coming weeks.

White Lightning wrote:I'm starting to think if he's nailed for 80 mins as an edge 2fr then he's a better option than Whitehead.

That's the kicker. Nobody knows who Crichton is or cares if he plays 80 unless he's in your fantasy team.

Could definitely be a better option than Whitehead if playing 80, but taking that risk just to save 46k doesn't sound worth it to me.

Here are J. Graham's minutes for the first 6 rounds = 58, 52, 58, 52, 67 & 66. Does anyone know why his minutes have jumped up quite dramatically over the last 2 rounds. Is it because he is match fit now which allows him to play bigger minutes or were there injuries & are these mid 60 minutes games going to be the norm from now on.

White Lightning wrote:I had a look at Crichton's tb & mt stats over rounds 2-6. He's played 283 minutes (49, 45, 58, 51 & 80 mins). In these games he has made 21 tackle breaks (4, 2, 1, 7, 7). That's a tb every 13.5 mins. However the negative factor with Crichton is missed tackles. He has missed 12 tackles in these games but that includes 6 missed tackles in round 5. It's interesting to note that the only game he played 80 mins which was in round 6 he only missed 2 tackles. I'm starting to think if he's nailed for 80 mins as an edge 2fr then he's a better option than Whitehead.

Crichton vs Whitehead is what I'm considering atm

might bring in Crichton first... wait another week on Whitehead... just looking at BE

Mentioned it when it happened but the way Adam Reynolds said in post game interview "now that Kyle Turner has made the move to the middle" it seemed like Crichton edge is a permanent thing.