2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 14

Hey fellas,

I've been trying not to rage trade for a few days now but tried out Sezar>Hingano (since Foran sounds like he'll be out longer than expected) and it allowed me to bring in Ted in for TTurbo. I'm thinking I'll want TTurbo in my final squad but think Teddy's gonna go massive again this week against the Panthers/rest of the season and don't want to fall too far out of contention.

My other option is to go Sezar>Lamb and Python>Burns which I know is the sensible option but can't afford another sub 800 score and I won't be able to do the above rage trade next week due to lack of cash. You guys reckon I pull the trigger now or sit tight? Any imput would be much appreciated. Cheers.

Aardvark Ratnick wrote:ARey back to full contact training today FWIW

One of your players rose from the dead

White Lightning wrote:Play Sironen or F. Kaufusi as last reserve.

Your 17 must be amazing. I played both last week and will probably play both again. Don't tell me you're playing Elgey ahead of either? If I was going to bench one would probably be Sironen with all the props out. Might have more tackles to miss

CORBONZ wrote:Hey fellas,

I've been trying not to rage trade for a few days now but tried out Sezar>Hingano (since Foran sounds like he'll be out longer than expected) and it allowed me to bring in Ted in for TTurbo. I'm thinking I'll want TTurbo in my final squad but think Teddy's gonna go massive again this week against the Panthers/rest of the season and don't want to fall too far out of contention.

My other option is to go Sezar>Lamb and Python>Burns which I know is the sensible option but can't afford another sub 800 score and I won't be able to do the above rage trade next week due to lack of cash. You guys reckon I pull the trigger now or sit tight? Any imput would be much appreciated. Cheers.

The 8 weeks has been said to be rubbish by Warriors people. They're hoping round 4-5 but obviously that could change. Hingano had 12pts in base stats and rest was attacking play I think. That's not ideal

My thought process behind my Saifiti to Wallace trade:

2016 Stats
Points per minute : Wallace (0.845) Saifiti (0.9)
Expected minutes : Wallace 50 Saifiti (40)
Estimated average: Wallace (0.845 * 50) = 42 Saifiti (0.9*40) = 36
Estimate "ceiling price" based on average = Wallace (~$390,000 +$80,000) Saifiti ($340,000 +9,000)

So I'm netting $21K from the trade and an estimated $50K from the eventual sale ($71K Total) Plus an estimated +6 pts each round (for approximately 8 rounds until peak price = 48 pts)

Is 48 pts (potential H2H wins - lost a match by 4 pts this week) and $71K worth the trade...

I say it is.

[/quote]The 8 weeks has been said to be rubbish by Warriors people. They're hoping round 4-5 but obviously that could change. Hingano had 12pts in base stats and rest was attacking play I think. That's not ideal[/quote]

Yeah cheers I read that a few pages back, sounding most likely round 4-5 aye? At least he'll make some cash instead of leaking it like Sezar and TTurbo will do over the next few weeks?

awanamafia wrote:My thought process behind my Saifiti to Wallace trade:

2016 Stats
Points per minute : Wallace (0.845) Saifiti (0.9)
Expected minutes : Wallace 50 Saifiti (40)
Estimated average: Wallace (0.845 * 50) = 42 Saifiti (0.9*40) = 36
Estimate "ceiling price" based on average = Wallace (~$390,000 +$80,000) Saifiti ($340,000 +9,000)

So I'm netting $21K from the trade and an estimated $50K from the eventual sale ($71K Total) Plus an estimated +6 pts each round (for approximately 8 rounds until peak price = 48 pts)

Is 48 pts (potential H2H wins - lost a match by 4 pts this week) and $71K worth the trade...

I say it is.

Ive done that exact trade mate if it makes you feel better haha

The 8 weeks has been said to be rubbish by Warriors people. They're hoping round 4-5 but obviously that could change. Hingano had 12pts in base stats and rest was attacking play I think. That's not ideal[/quote]

Yeah cheers I read that a few pages back, sounding most likely round 4-5 aye? At least he'll make some cash instead of leaking it like Sezar and TTurbo will do over the next few weeks? [/quote]

I think trading out Sezer is a good idea. I don't think trading out Trbojevic is as he will be one of the better averaging WFB/CTRs throughout the year. He may lose money but Manly were poor particularly in the second half and he will bounce back.

Random wrote:Still weighing up these 3 options. (I need to pick 2, and they will be in the 17 most likely.)

Musgrove = Better byes, playing a consistent position, DPP, position more secure, less injury risk concerns, low ceiling (Got 40 minutes, that most likely wont improve.), Burgess twins floating around.

Wallace = Minutes still up in the air. (I expect 50 minutes at best.), worst byes, most job security.

Moga = Cheaper (More cash upfront), plays round 12, injury concerns, job security concerns (This could be a bonus and make him go harder.), has harder run of matches, in less secure position regarding scoring.

Going to bump this question.

Showbags wrote:Ok decided on trades. Going all out cash grab as that is what the start of the season is all about.
Jbrom to Fwinterstein
Phythian to suli.

I know i will waste 2 trades on jbrom as i bring him back in about 4-5 rounds. But it frees up 270k, he will drop about 50k, i reckon with alot of tough matches coming up with team like souths and the dogs winterstein is good for 30 a game, so should rise 70-80k. Net gain 110-130k for 2 trades with a more solid scorer than elgey in 17. Trades are valued at about 100k so short changing myself. However that 110k+ will then get me whitehead when he bottoms out for sironen and probably have some change left over to help bring trbo in as he will struggle in upcoming weeks before getting a few good games.

Anyone see an issue with my reasoning? It also allows me an extra week to monitor jwh and et

The only problem i see is Tturbo banging out consecutive 50's + in the ensuing months

Musgrove vs Matagi vs Gubb

Edit: Feel free to add AFB to the list

Random wrote:

Going to bump this question.

Moga: Est Average : 30 - Price ceiling: $280,000 (+105,000) 8 games till sale : 240 pts
Musgrove : Est Average: 36 - Price ceiling: $340,000 - (+95,000) 288 pts
Wallace : Est Average: 42 - Price ceiling : $390,000 (+80,000) 336 pts

Taking into account Job security etc I went with Wallace and Moga..

Trade #1: Coote out for Moga (via Cotric) - Moga is going to make alot of cash if he stays fit, Coote not the greatest scorer and not making any money. Both could score similarly. Will have to play either Suli or Cotric in WFB. Leaves me with $115,000 in the bank.

Trade #2:Tempted to go ET out for Wallace and banking some more cash for future trades. Potentially could score similarly if ET only gets 60 mins. This will leave me with around $200,000 in the bank.

When JBrom and Whitehead hit rock bottom they are going to be must haves. Especially if Whitehead gets CTR. Plan is to upgrade a couple of my mid rangers that have peaked or nearly peaked to these two. This is the reason to bank some cash now.

Is this planning too far ahead? Too much cash not being used for points? Or do I wait for a mid ranger to peak then trade for a cash cow that could arrive in the next couple of weeks to get my cash?

Advice much appreciated.

Random wrote:

Going to bump this question.

I have Musgrove and I'm getting Moga. Tough draw doesn't worry me, as we saw last week he doesn't need tries to score well and should be put to work making metres out of their own end. I also like knowing he is on the field the whole time and not having guess his minutes. and he's cheap. and he plays round 12. I think he holds his spot because he's a beast. Injury the only concern, but I'm not going to worry about that, too hypothetical

Loomer wrote:

Your 17 must be amazing. I played both last week and will probably play both again. Don't tell me you're playing Elgey ahead of either? If I was going to bench one would probably be Sironen with all the props out. Might have more tackles to miss

Don't have Elgey. I downgraded him to Jacks round 1.
Yeah I was thinking of putting Sironen in my npr's as for some reason I think Kaufusi will get a try v the Warriors & with Sironen he didn't start picking up points until he did a few hit ups & got offloads away. His defense was pretty average & he could be doing a bit of defense v Souths.

Anyone know the split between how many minutes Chee-Kam played at centre and then at 2nd-row?

Perhaps he switches back to the 2nd row-on the bench when Idris comes back for good and scores a consistent 25 to 30. Perhaps I am dreaming, but I am averse to Stimson who will only play a few weeks and no-one else has scoring potential in the ultra low bracket

Need a cheap 2rf or frf to switch Daifiti to Gutherson through trading out Elgey. Gutherson will eventually by a python replacement or not depending whether a cash cow show up on the wing or in the halves who will eventually be a Python replacement. Gutherson has proven he will be a flexible keeper and Daifiti has proven to be deep deep trouble.

Any tips