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    Post by Welshy Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:14 am

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    IF taylor does play right edge i think thats great news for merrin's minutes (and tackle count) in the middle
    Merrin was a lock for my team as soon as I seen he was in the running for the Panthers captaincy, new club, young and already considered for the leadership role think he is in for a massive year
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    Post by multiple.scoregasms Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:24 am

    Scouter wrote:

    Is Merrin confirmed at Lock though or are these guys trialing for that spot as well? The way i see it ET only really adds value if he starts and plays at lock, he doesn't suit been on the edge and again he wont add much off the bench.

    Mckendry and RCG probably start at prop with Merrin at lock and moving for a short spell at prop after ~20 minutes
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    Post by rhinoceroo Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:27 am

    Matagi might have leapfrogged McKendry? Value if so.
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    Post by Welshy Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:29 am

    Don't forget about Latimore as well for the Panthers, very reliable and a half decent fantasy scorer
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:33 am

    Welshy wrote:
    Merrin was a lock for my team as soon as I seen he was in the running for the Panthers captaincy, new club, young and already considered for the leadership role think he is in for a massive year

    i slipped him in there at the start of the week when i found the cash to upgrade a mid ranger. feeling pretty good about it.
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    Post by Welshy Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:43 am

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    i slipped him in there at the start of the week when i found the cash to upgrade a mid ranger. feeling pretty good about it.
    If I could only muster the cash for 1 of Merrin or Surgess I would 100% pick Trent, I currently have both, I'm too worried about not having Surgess at his price if he picks up right where he left off and he is owned by so many I don't want to waste trades grabbing him if I don't start with him, I just think it will be too tough to pick up that sort of form he left the league in, he also scored 10 tries and all the LB's and TB's that come with them can he get near that again?
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    Post by Speedball Deluxe Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:01 pm

    Anyone thinking about Sue if starting lock? I am, but 2 things concern me a touch.

    1. If he is named in round 1 at lock, it doesn't mean he will keep it in round 2. Dene Halatau is out round 1 with suspension. Halatau played lock only once last year, where Sue played lock 3 times last year. So I guess Sue is a better chance of keeping the spot.

    2. When Sue played the three games at lock last year (rounds 21, 22, 23) he played:
    Mins 50, 58, 65 (avg of 57 mins)
    Scored 28, 55, 38 (avg of 40 points)

    Going by what Milchy said that generally 11 and 12 are higher min players and 13 plays less mins you could say his mins at lock last year (even though a small sample) are an indication he will play similar mins this year (same coach etc).

    Even when playing outside second row his mins weren't huge, average of 65mins (only started second row 3 times) meaning if he wasn't playing 70-80 mins in outside 2rf, he is highly unlikely to be playing 70-80min at lock.

    He is priced at 36 points, could potentially only avg 40 points. Not too much of an increase, there is certainly some value, but not the must have I thought he might be at lock, and with the potential to lose the lock spot come round 2 it might be a gamble I'm willing to take.

    EDIT: Just found this in a daily telegraph article (feb 16). Implying Halatau if fit would get the position ahead of Sue?? Could read it both ways I guess.
    "Sauaso Sue is likely to start at lock as Dene Halatau races the clock to be fit for the opener, while there is genuine excitement about Junior Kiwi and Parramatta discard Josh Aloiai, who could jag an interchange spot come round one."


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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:02 pm

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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:04 pm

    Speedball Deluxe wrote:Anyone thinking about Sue if starting lock? I am, but 2 things concern me a touch.

    1. If he is named in round 1 at lock, it doesn't mean he will keep it in round 2. Dene Halatau is out round 1 with suspension. Halatau played lock only once last year, where Sue played lock 3 times last year. So I guess Sue is a better chance of keeping the spot.

    2. When Sue played the three games at lock last year (rounds 21, 22, 23) he played:
    Mins 50, 58, 65 (avg of 57 mins)
    Scored 28, 55, 38 (avg of 40 points)

    Going by what Milchy said that generally 11 and 12 are higher min players and 13 plays less mins you could say his mins at lock last year (even though a small sample) are an indication he will play similar mins this year (same coach etc).

    Even when playing outside second row his mins weren't huge, average of 65mins (only started second row 3 times) meaning if he wasn't playing 70-80 mins in outside 2rf, he is highly unlikely to be playing 70-80min at lock.

    He is priced at 36 points, could potentially only avg 40 points. Not too much of an increase, there is certainly some value, but not the must have I thought he might be at lock, and with the potential to lose the lock spot come round 2 it might be a gamble I'm willing to take.
    Nice work Speedball.  Yeah, not quite the buy I thought he would be.  Halatau will be in the 17 Round 2.
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:06 pm

    Speedball Deluxe wrote:Anyone thinking about Sue if starting lock? I am, but 2 things concern me a touch.

    i've had him all along, but it is a bit of a gut feel pick, based on being part of the leadership group, etc. if i look too much at his stats i lose interest in him.

    EDIT and now you've got me thinking its a bad idea.


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    Post by Krump Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:07 pm

    Is there a reason the leagues close with 2 weeks left? Every year there are people who miss out due to only logging on come team list time.
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    Post by standard-issue Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:23 pm

    Krump wrote:Is there a reason the leagues close with 2 weeks left? Every year there are people who miss out due to only logging on come team list time.

    I just wrote a 30 line reply to this Krumpy, I deleted it.  I can't even begin to explain how difficult and time consuming it is to ensure that ALL of the leagues are full by ALL of the people who should be in there by 1st lockout.
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    Post by Krump Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:27 pm

    SI wrote:

    I just wrote a 30 line reply to this Krumpy, I deleted it.  I can't even begin to explain how difficult and time consuming it is to ensure that ALL of the leagues are full by ALL of the people who should be in there by 1st lockout.
    Righto mate, I wasn't picking was just curious. I seem to remember it being a pain in the arse getting everyone into L1 by lockout last year now that you mention it.
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    Post by Guest Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:30 pm

    Dylan Napa anyone?
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    Post by Speedball Deluxe Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:31 pm

    Just out of interest, in order to have the absolute best 17 players (based on last year's top players, but this year's monetary values) you would need to generate $2,697,000 in cash. A total team value of $9,497,000. What was the top team value last year? Does anyone remember?

    I can't see anyone generating that sort of cash, given the limited amount of trades.
    The team looked like this.
    Smith (McCullough)
    Fifita, Gallen, (Surgess 2014, Bromwich)
    Parker, Mannering, Fensom, (Merrin)
    Thurston, Hunt
    Dugan Aitken
    RTS, Tedesco, Radradra

    Interesting that the top 2 forwards are both from the same team (can only see Gallen going back in value this year surely). Also the top two centres are from the same team, albeit Dugan played FB. and Aitken may not even play first grade.
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    Post by Krump Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:34 pm

    Speedball Deluxe wrote:Just out of interest, in order to have the absolute best 17 players (based on last year's top players, but this year's monetary values) you would need to generate $2,697,000 in cash. A total team value of $9,497,000. What was the top team value last year? Does anyone remember?

    I can't see anyone generating that sort of cash, given the limited amount of trades.
    The team looked like this.
    Smith (McCullough)
    Fifita, Gallen, (Surgess 2014, Bromwich)
    Parker, Mannering, Fensom, (Merrin)
    Thurston, Hunt
    Dugan Aitken
    RTS, Tedesco, Radradra

    Interesting that the top 2 forwards are both from the same team (can only see Gallen going back in value this year surely). Also the top two centres are from the same team, albeit Dugan played FB. and Aitken may not even play first grade.
    Did you allow for npr's in that?
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    Post by my tv broke Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:35 pm

    Speedball Deluxe wrote:Interesting that the top 2 forwards are both from the same team (can only see Gallen going back in value this year surely). Also the top two centres are from the same team, albeit Dugan played FB. and Aitken may not even play first grade.

    aitken, i swear at the back end of last year the stats guys were just giving him points willy nilly.
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    Post by Speedball Deluxe Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:49 pm

    Krump wrote:
    Did you allow for npr's in that?

    Yeah, 130K nuffies.
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    Post by Milchcow Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:57 pm

    Speedball Deluxe wrote:Just out of interest, in order to have the absolute best 17 players (based on last year's top players, but this year's monetary values) you would need to generate $2,697,000 in cash. A total team value of $9,497,000. What was the top team value last year? Does anyone remember?


    Pretty sure I have last years final value saved at home.

    Might have a look at it and see what I can come up with.

    But if you need to generate $2.7million from 34 trades then a trade is worth $80,000


    A little bit simplistic as it doesn't take into account timing. That OK trades made in round 5 are much better than excellent trades made in round 25.
    Also at some point you'll be trading for injuries/suspension and that might not be a money maker.

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    Post by AL Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:03 pm

    Krump wrote:
    Righto mate, I wasn't picking was just curious. I seem to remember it being a pain in the arse getting everyone into L1 by lockout last year now that you mention it.

    It was also a pain in the ass getting everyone in L1 to play the season out last year, thereby giving our premier group quite the handicap! Have any of the culprits re-surfaced?

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