NSW Blues

Pieman wrote:

Could you put him in 6 though and be comfortable with him there, like you could with Boyd, Slater, GI, Lockyer, Moylan, Bowen, Hayne? I dont think so. I think Brett Stewart is even a better ball player than him.

Ted has amazing quick hands and pulls off some great tap on's but as far as his ball playing goes, I don't think he is all that crash hot. I guess that is an aspect of ball playing - but its more reactive stuff than actual ball playing.

Your Name wrote:

Pieman wrote:

Could you put him in the halves and be comfortable with it, Like you could with all those other guys?

I love Tedesco as a player, he's the best fullback in the league at the moment, and easily. I just don't think he is that good of a ball player.

Pieman wrote:

Could you put him in the halves and be comfortable with it, Like you could with all those other guys?

I love Tedesco as a player, he's the best fullback in the league at the moment, and easily. I just don't think he is that good of a ball player.

Honeysett wrote:

I'd be interested to see how many TAs he has this year. Have you been watching him this year? He's gone up another level, the doubt he puts it the mind of the outside defenders with his pace and ability to pass is what's killing it at the moment

Beast From The Big East wrote:

I get what you are saying but looking just solely at TA's isn't the best judge of ball playing ability and the doubt he puts into defenders minds isn't because of playmaking ability, it's because of his attacking ability. Yes he attracts defenders and that leaves space out wide, but to me ball playing ability is the ability to put your man into space, knowing when to throw the right ball be it a short ball, an early pass to get your man on his opponents outside, or a cut out face ball. In terms of ball playing fullbacks coming through for NSW the best is Moylan. Has the ability to take the line on but also the playmaking abilities to know how to set things up for his outside men rather than just running hard and fast and waiting for the defence to crash him leaving an unmarked man out wide

Honeysett wrote:

I get what you're saying, 5/8 is different to fullback though. The ball playing ability at FB doesn't need to be at the same ability of a 5/8. A FB more often than not just has to pick the right option and Teddy is doing that better than anyone at the moment. He needs to be at FB and no where else.

Beast From The Big East wrote:

Completely agree. Teddy deserves to be the FB for game 1. If he's not then Daley has to go because that's as big of a selection fuck up as you can get at the moment.

And calling Moylan a 5/8 at the moment doesn't seem right to me. Give him a few games there before we judge his ability there. Just that as a ball playing fullback, no one NSW could select is better at the moment than Moylan

Honeysett wrote:

I would rather a whole heap of 5/8s before Moylan. He hasn't played there long enough.

Oz Sport Mad wrote:

Moylan is blessed with attention because he plays for Gouldy but in reality it's not like he's the next immortal.

Good player don't get me wrong but he is surely well down the pecking order and certainly not at the point where you would squeeze him into the halves or push Teddy out of FB

Krump wrote:
Well said.
I like the guy but he's overrated IMO.

Your Name wrote:

OSM ?

Honeysett wrote:

I would rather a whole heap of 5/8s before Moylan. He hasn't played there long enough.

Beast From The Big East wrote:

Wasn't meaning throw Moylan at 5/8. Just that he has the best ball playing skills of any NSW fullback options

Honeysett wrote:

I'd be interested to see how many TAs he has this year. Have you been watching him this year? He's gone up another level, the doubt he puts it the mind of the outside defenders with his pace and ability to pass is what's killing it at the moment

Pieman wrote:

Ive seen every game hes played this year.
TA doesnt equal great ball playing.

As I said, he is great at tapping it on quickly - but in terms of genuine ball playing - IMO, he isnt that great, yet.
He usually either does a quick tap on, and then the centre or winger scores, or he burns the bloke marking him on the outside then draws and passes.

Its not really ball playing.

Honeysett wrote:

I don't understand what you're expecting of a FB. He isolates the right players and creates an overlap and throws the final pass or scores himself. You shouldn't need more than that. That's not his job to do more than that.

Honeysett wrote:

I get what you're saying, 5/8 is different to fullback though. The ball playing ability at FB doesn't need to be at the same ability of a 5/8. A FB more often than not just has to pick the right option and Teddy is doing that better than anyone at the moment. He needs to be at FB and no where else.

Your Name wrote:True story: Bloke on the radio this morning rings in and says "If Farah and Teddy are 9 & 1 and they say it's all about the spine in rugby league, Brooks & Moses have to be the halves"