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    Post by Pieman on Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:57 am

    Some crazy figures out released. Melboune operating at a million above the cap, brisbane 800k.
    How the fk can parra, a bloody historical club, a massive club with a shit tonne of supporters - only have under 50k in TPA.. crazy.

    If those figures are to be believed, it looks like TPA deals are not that predominant throughout the league which is odd considering you hear about so many players not being paid their TPA etc etc.

    Roosters with fuck all TPA... makes no sense. 200k with the roster they have.. I mean fuck. I see latrell mitchell on IG all the time with a new car or new motorbike etc.. maybe he is buying them buck far out, surely not.

    I dont really believe these figures hey but still its good to get some idea of what clubs are getting


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    Post by No Worries on Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:13 pm

    Where's the list ? There's also cap allowances for sponsors cars (I think 4) to be used by players so Lattrell may be 1. Back when we had the "big 4" Uncle Harry was throwing a couple $100K in. I bet he still does.
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    Post by Verbal Kint on Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:48 pm

    Storm $1m+
    Broncos $0.8m
    Cowboys $0.3m
    Rabbitohs $0.3m
    Panthers $0.2m
    Sharks $0.2m
    Warriors $0.2m
    Roosters $0.2m
    Raiders $0.2m
    Sea Eagles $0.2m
    Knights $0.1m
    Tigers $0.1m
    Dragons $0.1m
    Bulldogs, Eels and Titans close to zero

    Something like that anyway. Some rounding there

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    Post by Dip on Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:51 pm

    The NRL must be even more stupid than everyone thinks if they honestly believe the 30 man Parra roster only brought in on average $1633 each in TPA's last year. Either that or the player managers are effing useless. FFS, they'd get a few hundred for turning up to a hardware store on a Saturday morning and signing a few autographs and handing out icy cold cokes for a black thunder breakfast radio station promotion.

    Not having a go at Parra here, just they were used as the example of the lowest TPA team.
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    Post by Pieman on Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:08 pm

    yeah exactly, there is no fucking way the list is actually accurate. Players are always talking about TPAs etc..

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    Post by bluetige on Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:54 am

    Roosters, 200K TPA's, fucking bullshit. That just confirms they are breaking the cap with the roster they keep tabling, and no wonder the Storm keep making grand finals when they have a salary cap 1 million more then the other teams (except Broncos)

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    Post by Pieman on Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:03 pm

    Would make the bronco results last year even more disappointing for bronco fans I assume, knowing they spend like 600k more on their cap than most teams
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    Post by Pain on Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:21 pm

    Some of those numbers are woeful given what people get paid for public speaking and appearances alone.

    Somethings missing.
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    Post by Pain on Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:30 pm

    Obviously excludes any media deals
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    Post by surmo13 on Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:06 pm

    theres an article from around this time last year discussing TPA's where they stated the majority of the money is tied up in a very small amount of players, noting that Slater & Smith were the Storm's big earners and Thaiday was getting a lot from his involvement in indigenous programs, i'd imagine the two outlying figures will come back to the pack when the 2019 figures are released, given 2 of the 3 have retired.

    link here: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-data-suggests-salary-cap-isnt-distorted-by-thirdparty-agreements-20180219-h0wayc.html

    A quarter of the registered private sector TPAs of $3.76 million last year went to two players, 50 per cent to eight players and 75 per cent to 19 players across 11 clubs, while 43 players received $10,000 or less.

    so rounding up to 3.8 because i endeavour not to math too hard on my days off -

    approx. 950k between 2 players (apparently Slater & Thaiday if some adjacent articles are to be believed)
    approx. 950k between the next 6 (Smith taking up a sizeable chunk of that i imagine)
    approx. 950k between the next 11
    approx. 950k between the rest
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    Post by No Worries on Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:49 pm

    Slater's numbers I reckon are flawed. If you promote a brand not associated with the club and you don't appear in club colours it doesn't count.
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    Post by Krump on Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:38 am

    @No Worries wrote:Slater's numbers I reckon are flawed. If you promote a brand not associated with the club and you don't appear in club colours it doesn't count.
    I would have thought that it’s a much better definition of third party.
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    Post by dasherhalo on Sun Dec 16, 2018 8:06 am

    You've got to imagine if you're at one of these clubs, and that report comes out, and you happened to have a TPA your manager sorted for $100k.... you'd be wondering?
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    Post by Pieman on Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:47 am

    @Krump wrote:
    I would have thought that it’s a much better definition of third party.

    yeah absolutely.
    If its associated with the club then its not a TPA and should count against the cap
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    Post by No Worries on Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:34 am

    I didn't explain that well, because technically TPA's aren't associated with the club.

    If the contract is because you're Billy Slater from the Melbourne Storm playing in the NRL it's counted.

    If it's because your a recognisable famous athlere it's not. I think it's Rexona ad that Billy is in. Billy running, Billy looking buff, no mention of the Storm or NRL, there's a short scene of him playing rugby league in a non descript jersey against a equally non descript team. Not counted
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    Post by Krump on Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:25 am

    @No Worries wrote:I didn't explain that well, because technically TPA's aren't associated with the club.

    If the contract is because you're Billy Slater from the Melbourne Storm playing in the NRL it's counted.

    If it's because your a recognisable famous athlere it's not. I think it's Rexona ad that Billy is in. Billy running, Billy looking buff, no mention of the Storm or NRL, there's a short scene of him playing rugby league in a non descript jersey against a equally non descript team. Not counted
    Just proves that the numbers that have been released are total BS.
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    Post by Pieman on Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:41 pm

    @No Worries wrote:I didn't explain that well, because technically TPA's aren't associated with the club.

    If the contract is because you're Billy Slater from the Melbourne Storm playing in the NRL it's counted.

    If it's because your a recognisable famous athlere it's not. I think it's Rexona ad that Billy is in. Billy running, Billy looking buff, no mention of the Storm or NRL, there's a short scene of him playing rugby league in a non descript jersey against a equally non descript team. Not counted

    yeah wow so any time you see a billy slater photo on the back of a pool cleaner's truck holding the scooper, not in his storm jersey, it doesnt count as a TPA... I didnt know that.

    But then again, why would it be. Players should be allowed to capitalise on their own brand independently of the club and NRL if they want to

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    Post by surmo13 on Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:20 pm

    They aren’t counted towards the cap but im positive they are counted as TPA’s, all monetary agreements players accept independent from their club still have to be registered with and approved by both the players contracted club and the NRL
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    Post by code delta on Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:39 pm

    @Pieman wrote:

    But then again, why would it be. Players should be allowed to capitalise on their own brand independently of the club and NRL if they want to


    Not many players get a brand that hasn't come about via their club or the NRL. I mean why is Slater so well known that he can do adds that don't involve identifying with the NRL? Well maybe that has something to do with his club and the NRL?
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    Post by Pieman on Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:41 am

    @code delta wrote:

    Not many players get a brand that hasn't come about via their club or the NRL. I mean why is Slater so well known that he can do adds that don't involve identifying with the NRL? Well maybe that has something to do with his club and the NRL?

    but you can say the opposite.
    Slater is the one that did all the hard work and build the brand. Melboune just happened to be the club that he plays for. Clubs are nothing without the players too.

    I reckon if a player has the ability to attract independent deals then they should be allowed to go all in with no input from the NRL or the club. I always thought they could but it was counted towards the cap (no matter what shirt they were wearing)

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