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    Post by Pieman Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:55 pm

    Arewnt they currently under investigation for salary cap rorting? No sponsors etc then they are allowed to sign what would be close to a million dollar a year player?? wow

    Its an excellent signing for them, pushes Moylan back to 1 which is great as well.
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    Post by Krump Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:03 pm

    They had the million sitting there to pay Holmes.
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    Post by Pieman Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:15 pm

    Im not saying they didnt have the money, but surely a club that is being investigated for salaray cap fraud shouldn't be allowed to sign players?
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    Post by Krump Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:31 am

    Pieman wrote:Im not saying they didnt have the money, but surely a club that is being investigated for salaray cap fraud shouldn't be allowed to sign players?
    With how long it takes the NRL to get anything done they'd be unable to fill their roster on time if the waited for the investigation to finish. Wasn't the breach also in 2015 and self reported?
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    Post by Pieman Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:17 am

    I duno mate, it still shouldnt make any difference tho IMO.
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    Post by bluetige Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:33 am

    Manly couldn't purchase any more players whilst under investigation, maybe that rule should have been for the Sharkies too, different circumstances though
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    Post by No Worries Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:51 am

    Why hasn't Wade Graham re-signed with the Sharks I hear you ask.

    https://www.foxsports.com.au/news/sharks-coach-shane-flanagan-is-under-investigation-by-the-nrl-as-investigation-uncovers-evidence/news-story/ae7d6bf30e01d88d7537773387854c0e?fbclid=IwAR01SlI1q9CKa3VSu0tCBgXNzY_WkAmdezElDwf0fXnWDgeCes9KIIeBTbo
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    Post by Krump Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:41 am

    It just goes to show how hopeless the NRL is that it takes Cronulla self reporting on a separate issue to find this.
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    Post by No Worries Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:01 pm

    Everyone said it was a joke at the time and asked how they police it. Answer is they didn't and just assumed everyone was abiding by the conditions.

    Haven't the NRL used terms like prolonged and calculated to differentiate between fines and stripping points and competitions ?
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    If you were the Storm or Eels you'd be starting to ask questions. NRL should strip the premiership, turn the porch light back on then let the cards fall where they will.
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    Post by No Worries Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:27 pm

    Flanagan deregistered indefinately and suspended $400K fine imposed
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    Post by leaguegod Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:43 pm

    No Worries wrote:Flanagan deregistered indefinately and suspended $400K fine imposed

    + an extra 400k i think


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    Post by No Worries Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:22 pm

    They had $400K suspended in the peptides saga, I thought it was that ?
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    Post by leaguegod Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:40 pm

    yeah but they got a new 400k fine to go with the suspended fine
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    Post by Revraiser Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:51 pm

    Still nothing new or surprising. We've survived tougher times than this. Personally looking forward to 2019 and how we respond after losing Holmes and the 'saga's' filling the papers recently.
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    Post by Pain Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:56 pm

    No Worries wrote:Everyone said it was a joke at the time and asked how they police it. Answer is they didn't and just assumed everyone was abiding by the conditions.

    Haven't the NRL used terms like prolonged and calculated to differentiate between fines and stripping points and competitions ?
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    Yep burn the joint down
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    Post by Pain Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:56 pm

    Revraiser wrote:Still nothing new or surprising. We've survived tougher times than this. Personally looking forward to 2019 and how we respond after losing Holmes and the 'saga's' filling the papers recently.

    True fan. I like it.
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    Post by Oz Sport Mad Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:30 pm

    No Worries wrote:Everyone said it was a joke at the time and asked how they police it. Answer is they didn't and just assumed everyone was abiding by the conditions.

    Haven't the NRL used terms like prolonged and calculated to differentiate between fines and stripping points and competitions ?
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    If you were the Storm or Eels you'd be starting to ask questions. NRL should strip the premiership, turn the porch light back on then let the cards fall where they will.

    I know it is probably unfair to compare against the punishment handed to the Storm but even from a common sense and general fairness perspective, I would argue what the Sharks did had more of an effect on their premiership win than what the Storm did.

    Physical effects from their drug cheating would obviously still have been prevalent and now it turns out their coach had the significant advantage of being able to plan/coach his players ahead of schedule.

    Would hate to see blokes like Paul Gallen stripped of their premierships but I think it's the only fair outcome....
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    Post by MrCashman Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:30 am

    The NRL is a shambles, can't keep any team in order except the Rorters
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    Post by filthridden Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:40 am

    No Worries wrote:Flanagan deregistered indefinately and suspended $400K fine imposed

    slap on the wrist.
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    Post by dasherhalo Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:37 pm

    Not sure if it's gaining any momentum, but... it takes two (or more) to tango.

    If Flanagan is issuing orders behind the scenes, then surely most of the coaching staff in place is in a buttload of trouble as well?

    I agree with Oz in an oblique way. Not sure I want their title stripped (though it makes for good times down at the local needling Sharks fans), but the Storm saga has pretty much desensitised us to this sort of cr@p.

    if the Storm hadn't got caught out, I reckon we'd all be a lot more outraged by this blatant pattern of cheating by Cronulla. In this day and age though? Who cares?

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