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    Post by No Worries on Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:57 am

    Think of how much go forward we will get on the back of those quick play the balls to give Brooks all the time in the world while he waits for MBye now playing center to catch up with the play.
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    Post by Pieman on Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:12 pm

    When did Papz sign with Melbourne? Was that under Cleary or Madge's watch?
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    Post by No Worries on Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:54 am

    It was Taylor. But to be fair we were keeping Teddy.
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    Post by No Worries on Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:44 am

    Mahe Fonua gone for the season with foot injury / surgery and contract not being renewed
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    Post by Pieman on Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:13 pm

    @No Worries wrote:Mahe Fonua gone for the season with foot injury / surgery and contract not being renewed

    Is he terrible?
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    Post by WT Winfield on Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:20 pm

    Storm will probably pick him up and he'll be a world beater.
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    Post by Pieman on Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:22 pm

    @WT Winfield wrote:Storm will probably pick him up and he'll be a world beater.

    The storm let him go originally didnt they?
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    Post by WT Winfield on Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:31 pm

    Ah shit, yeah forgot he was there for years haha Embarassed

    Was imagining him doing a JAC and Koroibete and going off to kill it in a team that doesn't really need him. Storm's probably the one team we can rule out then I guess.
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    Post by Pieman on Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:37 pm

    haha prob. Who knows tho. Justin Ryder prob could have killed it on the wing for Melb.
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    Post by No Worries on Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:22 pm

    @Pieman wrote:

    Is he terrible?

    Not terrible, victim of circumstance. Coaches are hamstrung by $$ and contracts. I think we are seeing Madge implement what supporters have been screaming for, why the fuck have we bought so many outside backs when we need more grunt in the forwards.
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    Post by Ice on Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:49 am

    @No Worries wrote:Think of how much go forward we will get on the back of those quick play the balls to give Brooks all the time in the world while he waits for MBye now playing center to catch up with the play.

    Yep, this. Mannah a huge buy for Tigers terribly slow speed at the play the ball. The cat always lands on his feet. Wouldn't be surprised to see him average close to 150metres for the remainder of the year if he gets sixty minutes like he should have been getting a Parra.

    The unit averages 99 metres in only 32 minutes of football, the almost 250m per 80 minutes which compares well with the best props in the game. I honestly think the Eels just don't play him enough.
    In our wins that he had played (4 of the 5) he averages 143metres in 42 minutes.
    In our losses he only plays 32 minutes and averages 62m, most of those coming off the bench. He has been used poorly this year, you can clearly see our go forward struggles when he is off the field. I'm not sure why he gets dragged or has been benched, so much eitherhis tackle efficiency is almost 92% so he is missing stuff.

    Look, I'm a massive Mannah fan, I'd take him every day as a player and club man over a shit cunt like Packer or Druggo like Matulino. When he played Origin,those years, he was great, his only Origin start he won. Is he a top 10 prop, no, of course not, but he represents great value and culture for the Tigers. He will quickly become a fan favourite with the Tigers faithful, no doubt about it and in my view is a loss for the Eels. I can't believe we couldn't have found some money somewhere in our cap to keep a stalwRt like him and it again shows why the NRL need to introduce veterans cap exceptions for 10 year plus players. Shame on you Parra and the NRL
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    Post by Shanbon on Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:28 am

    Surely the Tigers arent stupid enough to give Farah and Marshal another year
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    Post by ryno_ on Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:23 am

    @Ice wrote:

    Yep, this. Mannah a huge buy for Tigers terribly slow speed at the play the ball. The cat always lands on his feet. Wouldn't  be surprised to see him average close to 150metres for the remainder of the year if he gets sixty minutes like he should have been getting a Parra.

    The unit averages 99 metres in only 32 minutes of football, the almost 250m per 80 minutes which compares well with the best props in the game. I honestly think the Eels just don't play him enough.
    In our wins that he had played (4 of the 5) he averages 143metres in 42 minutes.
    In our losses he only plays 32 minutes and averages 62m, most of those coming off the bench. He has been used poorly this year, you can clearly see our go forward struggles when he is off the field. I'm not sure why he gets dragged or has been benched, so much eitherhis tackle efficiency is almost 92% so he is missing stuff.

    Look, I'm a massive Mannah fan, I'd take him every day as a player and club man over a shit cunt like Packer or Druggo like Matulino. When he played Origin,those years, he was great, his only Origin start he won. Is he a top 10 prop, no,  of course not, but he represents great value and culture for the Tigers. He will quickly become a fan favourite with the Tigers faithful, no doubt about it and in my view is a loss for the Eels. I can't believe we couldn't have found some money somewhere in our cap to keep a stalwRt like him and it again shows why the NRL need to introduce veterans cap exceptions for 10 year plus players. Shame on you Parra and the NRL

    Im not a huge fan of his recent work on the field - last 2 or 3 seasons the word "pedestrian" comes to mind, but the leadership and culture a clubman like that brings to a club is huge and I would have thought be worth his contract.

    Side note - isn't there a long serving player allowance in the cap already? Something like an extra 250k that sits outside the counted salary?
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    Post by Pieman on Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:55 am

    @ryno_ wrote:

    Im not a huge fan of his recent work on the field - last 2 or 3 seasons the word "pedestrian" comes to mind, but the leadership and culture a clubman like that brings to a club is huge and I would have thought be worth his contract.

    Side note - isn't there a long serving player allowance in the cap already? Something like an extra 250k that sits outside the counted salary?

    Pretty sure it can only be used on one player? You would they would have used it on someone like Mannah though
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    Post by No Worries on Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:02 am

    @ryno_ wrote:


    Side note - isn't there a long serving player allowance in the cap already? Something like an extra 250k that sits outside the counted salary?

    Yep, which is why you would think a player already contracted next year and eligible would have been a no brainer to keep if there wasn't issues in the background. Not sure if they have anyone else eligible to take it up. May be the big dollars Moses signed on means they need the allowance for someone else ??
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    Post by Ice on Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:38 am

    I cant Think who else would be eligible.
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    Post by Oz Sport Mad on Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:14 pm

    @Ice wrote:I cant Think who else would be eligible.

    Has to be a top 30 player at the club for at least 8 years or in the NRL for 10 years, so I imagine the $200k would be only eligible for Gower, Fergo or Jennings.

    That or it was all tied up with Mannah and they wanted to clear it for an experienced signing for next year.
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    Post by Dip on Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:51 pm

    @Oz Sport Mad wrote:

    Has to be a top 30 player at the club for at least 8 years or in the NRL for 10 years, so I imagine the $200k would be only eligible for Gower, Fergo or Jennings.

    That or it was all tied up with Mannah and they wanted to clear it for an experienced signing for next year.

    Do the players still have to be with the team? Just wondering if the Tigers can still get it for paying wages to the likes of Fifita, Tedesco etc? Or has that joke passed it's use by date now?
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    Post by ryno_ on Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:12 pm

    @Dip wrote:

    Do the players still have to be with the team? Just wondering if the Tigers can still get it for paying wages to the likes of Fifita, Tedesco etc? Or has that joke passed it's use by date now?

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    Post by No Worries on Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:22 pm

    @Dip wrote:

    Do the players still have to be with the team? Just wondering if the Tigers can still get it for paying wages to the likes of Fifita, Tedesco etc? Or has that joke passed it's use by date now?

    Tigers haven't paid players to play for other clubs since back when the Broncos were dominant.

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