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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog on Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:25 am

    Someone needs to go. I have an itchy trade finger
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by my tv broke on Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:35 am

    @Fortitude wrote:the only thing it serves is a reminder that you can get away with late swing arms, as long as you don't knock them the fuxk out.

    In the tigers eels games, brooks put a late shoulder into Moses fave after a kick in first half. But because it didn't injury him, no one cares

    this is my issue with the whole thing. the reaction only comes when there's an injury. there is no consistency. as you said, you can do what you want, if the other player doesn't wind up injured.

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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by my tv broke on Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:40 am

    could mean nothing, but:

    Cronk: "Hopefully we have Cameron and Billy available. If they aren't, we have depth which the #Origin period showed"

    Smith can't be too bad unless Cronk is just playing games with us.
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by filthridden on Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:42 am

    @my tv broke wrote:

    this is my issue with the whole thing. the reaction only comes when there's an injury. there is no consistency. as you said, you can do what you want, if the other player doesn't wind up injured.


    To be honest if Slater gets straight up I wouldn't have scrutinised the replay. We also would've have had so much down-time in the game to see the replay so many times. Penalty given and we all move on.

    However with an injury like what happened to Slater, the NRL SHOULD be looking at incidents like that.
    We should be asking "what went wrong? Why did this happen? Is there anything we need to change in our rules so that we can minimise the chance of this happening again?" but don't be reactive in terms of punishment based on the injury - set a new precedent that everyone is aware of and communicate it out so that we don't see players copping heavy knocks to the head like that, or at least not so often.

    I think 6 weeks is too much for Soli. Hard done by.
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by filthridden on Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:44 am

    @Chewie wrote:6 weeks for Soliola... scratch

    a bit harsh, but it serves as a warning for others for dishing out late tackles

    Wait, the judiciary isn't until tonight...
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by Moose on Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:52 am

    @Liverpool_Bulldog wrote:Someone needs to go. I have an itchy trade finger

    I believe there are tablets you can buy that will stop the itchy finger.
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by Liverpool_Bulldog on Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:01 am

    @Moose wrote:

    I believe there are tablets you can buy that will stop the itchy finger.
    I'm out of pills. I used them all before Rd11
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by SoylentGreen on Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:01 am

    Any news on if Graham is back this week?
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by Chewie on Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:15 am

    @filthridden wrote:

    Wait, the judiciary isn't until tonight...

    yep, not final yet, let's see what his lawyer can come up with
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by ryno_ on Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:21 am

    So the gradings of the charge Soliola is up against are (including 20% loading for his priors);

    Dangerous Contact (Head)
    Grade 1 - 100 base, 120 points
    Grade 2 - 250 base, 300 points
    Grade 3 - 400 base, 480 points
    Grade 4 - 550 base, 660 points
    Grade 5 - 700 base, 840 points

    At 6 weeks off, it's effectively a grade 4 without the possibility of an early guilty plea. It could even be considered to be less because I don't think he'll keep 60 carry over points from a direct, ungraded referral.

    Which begs the question... what do you have to do to earn a grade 5? Jesus.
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by No Worries on Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:28 am

    Isn't Grade 5 "Deliberate" ?
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by my tv broke on Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:29 am

    @ryno_ wrote:Which begs the question... what do you have to do to earn a grade 5? Jesus.

    well, contact was with the head largely because Slater slipped.
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by ryno_ on Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:30 am

    @No Worries wrote:Isn't Grade 5 "Deliberate" ?

    That's a separate charge, carrying 550/650/750/850/950 points through the 5 grades.

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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by Fortitude on Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:48 am

    Its nuts the reading through social media the massive variation in peoples views on this. People throwing 12 weeks around, others saying 2 weeks. If you wanted to read into that, you'd say that this is proof that the rules are inconsistently applied that people just have no idea.

    Slater himself is a fairly polarising figure. Has many Fan boys ready to drop to their knees in his presence, but also has many haters. Its good to see that in this case, no blame is on him from the public. Not that there is much room for it.



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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by code delta on Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:37 pm

    @my tv broke wrote:could mean nothing, but:

    Cronk: "Hopefully we have Cameron and Billy available. If they aren't, we have depth which the #Origin period showed"

    Smith can't be too bad unless Cronk is just playing games with us.

    and if he is playing games does that make him Cooper Gronk
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by Chewie on Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:42 pm

    @my tv broke wrote:

    well, contact was with the head largely because Slater slipped.

    I don't think Slater slipping wouldn't have made a big difference... looking at the footage he would've been hit high either way (Slater is pretty short).
    It could've easily smashed his troublesome left shoulder and ruled Slater out for a lot longer.

    The "slipping" argument is what is going to help Soliola at the judiciary tonight
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by Random on Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:22 pm

    Don't make me start messaging you guys individual to put in your nominations for the end of year awards.

    https://www.nrlfantasyfanatics.com/t552-end-of-year-awards-nominations-2017
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by Revraiser on Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:54 pm

    Ill have a solid think over it tonight and nominate. Can we juat quote and completw fields etc in the thread ?
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by Oz Sport Mad on Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:02 pm

    @Fortitude wrote:Its nuts the reading through social media the massive variation in peoples views on this. People throwing 12 weeks around, others saying 2 weeks. If you wanted to read into that, you'd say that this is proof that the rules are inconsistently applied that people just have no idea.

    Slater himself is a fairly polarising figure. Has many Fan boys ready to drop to their knees in his presence, but also has many haters. Its good to see that in this case, no blame is on him from the public. Not that there is much room for it.


    Whilst the rules are undoubtedly inconsistently applied, I'm not surprised there is such a variation in opinion on this one - it is a fairly unique scenario.

    On one hand, there was obvious intent (to hit Slater late) but on the other hand no intent (to hit Slater high).

    Based on that I'd land somewhere in the middle and subjectively give him a 2 week rest.

    The case does highlight a problem with trying to assign black and white rulings for the sake of consistency because there will always be a unique scenario that occurs and you can guarantee a lot of people will be unhappy with whatever the decision ends up.
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    Re: 2017 NRL.com Fantasy thread part 60

    Post by SI on Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:08 pm

    All, you can PM your noms to any mod, the thread is there as a guide.

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