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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Dip on Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:29 pm

    @Pieman wrote:

    Been saying that for years. Totally agree. I think he would have been excellent in this role. Might be too late for it now, but he 100% can not be the starting halfback. I would nearly even pick him as the starting hooker to offer the side a kicking game/bit of attack out of dummy half.

    There is no doubt that Pearce has been a scape goat to some extent, and there is also no doubt that at origin time he was by far the in form halfback and the only realistic option to be picked. Having said that, you just can't pick him at 7 again given what happened in game 2 & 3 (and to some extent given that NSW only really pulled away in game 1 after he went off HIA) and the alternative that will be available. Barring injury, Cleary is the logical next halfback, and while he'll still only be very young at 20, he'll have played basically 50 games by then, which players usually don't achieve until they're 22 or 23, so I don't think you can use the too young argument. He also plays as if he's a lot older than he is. By that, I mean that if he never improves any more than what he is now, he'll still be a very good halfback for the next decade, and isn't like say Mullen or Pearce, who were picked on potential but not really origin standard when they were picked before their time.

    By the same token, I don't think there is any NSW hooker who is an 80 minute hooker and has an attacking game to go with it. Peats, Korisau can be attacking players, but not if they play 80. While they can handle 80 defensively, have them play 50-60, and they'll bring a better running game to the table, then have a 20-30 minute hooker who can really apply the pressure when they're on. Pearce could most certainly do that role running occassionally from dummy half, and not being the chief playmaker calling the shots. If Cleary is injured Adam Reynolds can fill that role.

    NSW try to copy what we've done with Smith, and that is just a losing cause. Farah is the easily the second best hooker of the last decade IMO, and when he was young enough to try and play like Smith NSW had a shit team, and when they finally had a good team he was no longer young enough to play that role and was instead a defensive 80 minute player like Peats was this year. Gee I even hope we don't try to emulate Smith when he retires. If he decided to hang up the boots tomorrow, then I'd hope we'd pick a Friend/McCullough type starter, with a Glanville/Segeyaro type hooker on the bench.
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Pain on Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:00 pm

    People forget where the Qld Team was when Mal took over. There was much debate in state whether Locky was up to origin. I question whether the 3 so called immortals would be such without their origin success.

    Its not a simple as saying qld had the best players. The environment was there for them to be motivated to be the best they could be.
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Moose on Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:03 pm

    NSW might have Cleary but QLD have Cooper Cronks clone in Croft. The only position that NSW have the advantage is in the forwards.

    Oh yeah, Freddy will be NSW Coach next year. Put your house on it.
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by dasherhalo on Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:07 pm

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    Whilst there is a distinct career downside should said coach lose, there is a definable boost in employability should the coach jag a positive result.

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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Pain on Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:36 pm

    @Moose wrote:NSW might have Cleary but QLD have Cooper Cronks clone in Croft. The only position that NSW have the advantage is in the forwards.

    Oh yeah, Freddy will be NSW Coach next year. Put your house on it.

    I hope he is. Freddy and Joey will be a trainwreck.
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by No Worries on Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:41 pm

    And the worst kept secret in rugby league is officially announced.
    Brad Fittler signed on a 2 year deal to coach the Blues.

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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by leaguegod on Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:23 pm

    i'm pretty happy with the appointment personally


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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Pieman on Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:57 pm

    Yeah me too, best option IMO.

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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Ice on Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:15 am

    Possible team based on Fittlers latest comments:

    1. Tedesco
    2. Addo-Carr
    3. Mitchell
    4. Bird
    5. Trbojevic
    6. Maloney
    7. Cleary
    8. Woods
    9. Peats/ApiK
    10. Klemmer
    11. Cordner
    12. Jackson
    13. JTrbojevic

    14. Peachey
    15. RCG
    16. Maclean
    17. Frizell

    I don't mind that side at all. JAC or Mansour, I could take either. I like Peachey in the 14. Think he'd offer that run from dummy half to spell Peats, but could slot into the backrow or backline no dramas at all.

    I still wouldn't mind finding a spot for Crighton or Brown, but for whom? Personally it would be for Jackson, but it's unlikely I'd say, maybe Frizell.
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Pieman on Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:33 am

    NSW Emerging squad named.

    Payne Haas (Brisbane Broncos)
    Tevita Pengai Jr. (Brisbane Broncos)
    Michael Lichaa (Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs)
    Nick Cotric (Canberra Raiders)
    Jayden Brailey (Cronulla Sharks)
    Kyle Flanagan (Cronulla Sharks)
    Jessie Ramien (Cronulla Sharks)
    Lachlan Croker (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles)
    Jack Gosiewski (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles)
    Brian Kelly (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles)
    Luke Metcalf (Manly Warringah Sea Eagles)
    Curtis Scott (Melbourne Storm)
    Brock Lamb (Newcastle Knights)
    Daniel Saifiti (Newcastle Knights)
    Connor Watson (Newcastle Knights)
    Nathan Cleary (Penrith Panthers)
    Dylan Edwards (Penrith Panthers)
    Moses Leota (Penrith Panthers)
    Bevan French (Parramatta Eels)
    Tepai Moeroa (Parramatta Eels)
    Mitchell Moses (Parramatta Eels)
    Kyle Schneider (Parramatta Eels)
    Jake Hazard (Sydney Roosters)
    Latrell Mitchell (Sydney Roosters)
    Victor Radley (Sydney Roosters)
    Angus Crichton (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
    Tyrell Fuimaono (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
    Campbell Graham (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
    Cameron Murray (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
    Matt Dufty (St George Illawarra Dragons)
    Jai Field (St George Illawarra Dragons)
    Zac Lomax (St George Illawarra Dragons)
    Reece Robson (St George Illawarra Dragons)
    Hame Sele (St George Illawarra Dragons)
    Jacob Liddle (Wests Tigers)
    Bayley Sironen (Wests Tigers)
    Moses Suli (Wests Tigers)
    Alex Twal (Wests Tigers)

    Quite a bit of first grade experience there. Some very very good young players.

    A Johns, Fitzgibbon, King, Omeeley, Buderus will have specialist coaching roles.

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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Ice on Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:37 am

    No Nathan Brown! Poo squad!
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Pieman on Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:00 am

    is there an age limit for the emerging squad?
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Shanbon on Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:08 am

    There’s also quiet a few nuffties in there who won’t go to far

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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Ice on Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:05 pm

    3 weeks gone, some key injuries and some interesting form plus some country v state issues......

    Who does everyone have at this point?

    Me without too much thought so far:

    1. Tedesco
    2. Mansour
    3. Mitchell
    4. Dugan
    5. Trbojevic
    6. Keary
    7. not sure now Cleary is out, perhaps Wallace just to purely organise, think he is probably the best of an average bunch if Cleary is out.
    8. RCG
    9. Api K/Peats
    10. Klemmer
    11. Frizell
    12. Cordner
    13. J Trbojevic

    14. Vaughan
    15. De Belin
    16. Crichton
    17. No idea about this last position. Is it another big like Woods (who will likely start), is it a forward utility like Graham, is it a back utility like Bird/Peachey (who will get a chance to show his worth with Cleary injured), is it a back up hooker (so peats and Api), or will we stick with a one trick workhorse like Jackson starting and Frizell coming of the bench.
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Pieman on Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:12 am

    Honestly as much as I hate to say it, Fergo has prob been the best winger in the comp so far this year. As much as I dont want him there (que Ryney fairy tale), you couldnt leave him out based of this year's form. You also cant pick him AND dugan in the side again after their piss up party last year. So for these purposes I am going to leave them both out.

    Ted - to switch around with Trbo a little bit throgh the game.
    Mansour
    Mitchell - would be wonderful to see mitchell line up against Inglis as Inglis comes to the end of his rep career and Mitchell is starting out.
    Roberts
    Trbo
    Keary - he has certainly been the form 6 so far for NSW. With moses playing like dogshit, Cleary out, Moylan playing like shit, he might get his start. A cleary and Keary halves pairing would not only be impossible for rabs to pronounce, but it could be very effective.

    Maloney - his defence is horrible, but with cleary out he is the next best option.
    Woods - no point putting anyone else, I dont want him but they will have him

    Peats - Im just not sold on him. He literally has no attacking game. He certainly cant be an 80min hooker in origin if he isnt playing 80 in club land. I would be happy with giving Api a crack, or even brailey. I wouldnt even hate having pearce at 9.

    Klemmer
    Cordner

    Jackson - again, no point not putting him there. He will get picked. There are better back rowers than him that will miss out. He has always done his job, there are just guys who can do it better than him IMO.

    JTrbo (c)

    Friz
    RCG
    Finucane
    Pearce - to play some hooker and back row cooper cronk style
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by No Worries on Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:18 am

    Those spines are worrying. 2 blokes picked because there's no one else and 1 out of form

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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by leaguegod on Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:20 am

    i don't think jackson will be there this year, he has always done whats asked but i think this is the year they go in a different direction

    fullback will be teddy

    wingers will be down to ttrbo/mansour and fergo. i don't like fergo but can't questions his form atm

    Centre is a lottery roberts, mitchel, dugan, bird etc all a chance, i wouldn't be shocked freddy goes left field to a curtis scott or aitken type

    Halves: Rip

    Cleary was looking so good Sad
    Maloney has been poor, looks even weaker defensively this year
    Keary would rather play for QLD
    Pearce is pearce
    wallace ? lol
    Moses is out of form

    i won't bag who ever NSW pick, none are great options

    Props: Klemmer will be there, woods probably too. i think RCG an mclean are likely to take the 2 bench prop spots

    Hooker: Api/peats meh

    Edge backrowers: friz and cordner start, would not pick wade graham after last years stupidity. not sure who to pick off the bench. crighton maybe ? or maybe no bench edge backrower and have a peachey/bird utility type ?

    Locks: Jtrubo starts, either JDB or finucane on the bench, i love finucane but de-belin looks the goods early

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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Ice on Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:53 am

    I'm not convinced Jackson is a certainty, I just don't see how he fits him in with some of the other backrowers he has at his disposal and his stated attacking mindset. Jackson hasn't been bad, he has done his job, but in consistently losing sides. Is that enough to retain him? I'll understand if he gets pick but he isn't a certainty.

    Woods will be there I guess, but a case could be made to leave him out also, but in picking a team that is highly likely, I agree Pieman, he is the 8.

    Re Fergo, yeah, good form to start, but again, I think Fittler will want to stamp his own culture and authority on the team and leaving Fergo or Dugan or both out will be a massive statement and a positive cultural shift, it isn't lîke he doesn't have option, like with Jackson. His only real issues are the halves and hooker, basically the key positions.

    I'm refining my side again with Woods the only guy who I am putting in cause I know he will be there and running with Fittler attacking claim.

    1. Tedesco
    2. Mansour
    3. Mitchell
    4. Roberts
    5. TTurbo
    6. Keary
    7. Cleary (I'm backing him to recover)
    8. Woods
    9. Api K
    10. Klemmer (he needs a chance to start)
    11. Cordner
    12. Crichton (he will be partnered at Roosters with Boyd next year,let's get them together now)
    13. JTurbo

    14. TPeach
    15. RCG/Vaughan
    16. JDB/Finnucane
    17. TFriz
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by Krump on Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:02 am

    Whats the go with some of you lot wanting Keary? He's a Queenslander for fucks sake.
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    Re: NSW Origin side 2018

    Post by ryno_ on Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:20 am

    1. Tedesco
    2. Mansour
    3. Dugan
    4. Digits
    5. TTurbo
    6. Keary
    7. ARey
    8. Woods
    9. Peats
    10. McLean
    11. Cordner
    12. Jackson
    13. JTurbo

    14.
    15. Frizell
    16. Klemmer
    17. JDB

    Back 3 pick themselves.
    Latrells not good enough and Roberts is a flat track bully. Digits Jnr has actually played well so far this year and Dugan has never played a bad rep game.
    Im backing ARey to play the house down when he gets back and partner the turncoat Keary.
    Woods doesnt deserve it but he'll be back. McLean looks best of the rest.
    Peats was deadset your best in games 1 & 2. Deserves another series.
    No surprises in the back of the pack.
    Klemmer and Friz are best as impact off the bench imo
    JDB's been groomed since birth it seems for the job, time to give him a run.
    Utility doesnt matter pick who you want, they'll capitulate as is tradition.

    Still, 4 in a row upcoming.

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